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Post by ManaKhe on Jun 7, 2015 0:46:36 GMT
So we all know that somtimes u cant preform a certan buff that ppl are asking you for, such as: cant w/c with ninja present. So just to make life easier on everyone, (and because idk other classes buffs x.x) can everyone name a buff/skill that ppl ask for that you cant do for certain reasons? Im only aware of hw's mp heal needs 1 mp to use, and bishops resurrect has a long skill delay, long delay=no heals for x seconds=unpleasant Depending on the class and all it can be worth waiting 6 seconds for Resurrect delay. Like on Larkas, he freezes which means he can randomly ohko at some point but on my Enchanter I can last a lot longer than 6 seconds without heals on him. I'm guessing most Paladins can do the same thing. In a lot of cases Aegis+Resurrect can be more important than Heals. This does however depend on the party. Basically Bishops just gotta know the boss and how good the tank, or if there isn't a tank at all. I will say that healing is probably the hardest role to fulfill in this game. It can be really easy occasionally though. MP Recharge needing 1 MP isn't really a factor, it just means Hwiz gotta use MP pots or wait for Bless. Enchanters have Absorb as well so they usually have 1 MP anyways. Hwiz should typically heal MP before an Enchanter as well if both are in the same party and the Enchanter is tanking. Oh if an Enchanter is tanking and the only MPer expect delays sometimes xD. Bless and Warcry can sometimes mess up Ninjas, although only the crappy ones usually. Limit shouldn't be casted mid boss usually unless it's an easy boss and it doesn't matter anyways. People need to realize Servants can only soul connect with 1 person at a time. Gladiators hate using Guard 1 for some reason, even though it's not really much worse than Guard 2 so if there isn't a Pally then it's worth using it. I can't really think of a lot of skills people can't use at certain times.
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asteg
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yar yar...wind at ye backs me fellows.
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Post by asteg on Jun 7, 2015 3:25:09 GMT
Idm resu in the middle of battle, its just when pally hits half hp whole pt start bishing at the bishop and if p**ses me off cuz if pally cant go OMG 6 WHOLE SECONDS w/o heals almas forbid they stop wearing currones..
Idrc about ppl in my pt anymore x.x.. Like in any pt im the tank so if dps ninja has a problem with w/c to bad cuz im tanking
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Yazmat
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Pally Lv351 | Alchy Lv318
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Post by Yazmat on Jun 7, 2015 8:18:57 GMT
What drives me off is when i pt with pally (i am gladiator btw) and he/she keeps warcrying pt right after i've done it. I'm like just take mine instead lol, it's better. And gladies do the same with guard which pallys have better
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Post by Jeancarlo on Jun 7, 2015 20:57:40 GMT
Well not quite; NIN needs "only" ~ -110% HP (3 ganeis + Schwartz1 = 120%) to ignore warcry hp buff. WC3 is ~+16% IIRC, and -110% will still leave nin at -94. enough to use dm Not sure there is any buff that's really "detrimental" for a PT member per se, sans sub-par equipped (which I would consider a NIN that can't go past -110 to be) HW doing Recharge with not enough HP cant die too, lol The problem is that most ninja dont use 3 ganei anymore. They have raton/vida/dorry instead. If they're that rich, adding crap gear with ganei should not be a problem then crap gear would only be needed when in PT with someone that has those buffs. A lot of us have multiple sets depending on situation (solo v pt if nothing else).
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Shuyu
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Post by Shuyu on Jun 8, 2015 7:55:00 GMT
(Disclaimer: Probably does not apply to the pro and rich bishops out there. I admit that I do not have a special skill delay set for my bishop apart from re-up vio bow) So playing bishop here. Sometimes when grinding at baums or nommar or someplace, I can't buff limit immediately even though some guy asks for it, cause some hw or another squishy class refuses to run from the mob or at least bring it to the tank and I'm busy spam healing them instead. Before I got my delay skill 20 levels later, there have been countless times when someone died while I was waiting for limit's cooldown. Since my priority is alive>buff, do expect some delay for buffs when your fellow party members are half-dead
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Aroxis
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I get broads in atlanta tho :v
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Post by Aroxis on Jun 8, 2015 16:48:04 GMT
The problem is that most ninja dont use 3 ganei anymore. They have raton/vida/dorry instead. If they're that rich, adding crap gear with ganei should not be a problem then crap gear would only be needed when in PT with someone that has those buffs. A lot of us have multiple sets depending on situation (solo v pt if nothing else). At that point, even with buffs they would be doing lower dps. You can do the calculations if you want im not a person who likes to do a bunch a math in my free time.
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Post by Jeancarlo on Jun 8, 2015 16:52:13 GMT
If they're that rich, adding crap gear with ganei should not be a problem then crap gear would only be needed when in PT with someone that has those buffs. A lot of us have multiple sets depending on situation (solo v pt if nothing else). At that point, even with buffs they would be doing lower dps. You can do the calculations if you want im not a person who likes to do a bunch a math in my free time. I don't see how. The crap gear is only needed when doing clones; probably needing 2-3 gear switching. Point is, NIN doesn't have to have any issue with Warcry, if geared properly.
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asteg
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Post by asteg on Jun 8, 2015 19:50:14 GMT
I dont pt with ppl anymore q.q sorry to all ninjas but idont like you .-.
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