|
Thinking
Jun 1, 2015 20:01:24 GMT
via mobile
Post by drrockso on Jun 1, 2015 20:01:24 GMT
I'm thinking about going throwing knife build
Int dex agi
Int vit agi dex
Int agi str dex
Idk about this
|
|
|
Post by ManaKhe on Jun 2, 2015 1:53:14 GMT
I'm curious as to why a throwing build... How do you plan on doing damage with these stats? I'm assuming you would be doing auto attacks, in which case the lack of CRT will mean your damage will be bad. So IF you were to do a Throwing build it would be INT AGI(only enough for max ASPD, unsure of Servant bonuses to AGI so I can't give you an exact number on the amount you need, 351 is max ASPD for Throwing though if I remember correctly) and CRT. Optionally pass that point you could add VIT, STR, or more AGI(this is either a max or leave at minimum for max ASPD, in between won't do much at all for you). VIT for more survival, STR for higher ATK(prioritize INT over this though) or AGI for EVA(needs 256+ to be effective for the most part).
However I will also add that the damage will be pretty poor overall still since Servants don't get any kind of bonus to ATK or auto attacking. A Throwing auto attack Monk would definitely out perform this class by a lot and that's not even popular because it's not the best build for them.
|
|
|
Thinking
Jun 2, 2015 2:01:03 GMT
via mobile
Post by drrockso on Jun 2, 2015 2:01:03 GMT
I'm curious as to why a throwing build... How do you plan on doing damage with these stats? I'm assuming you would be doing auto attacks, in which case the lack of CRT will mean your damage will be bad. So IF you were to do a Throwing build it would be INT AGI(only enough for max ASPD, unsure of Servant bonuses to AGI so I can't give you an exact number on the amount you need, 351 is max ASPD for Throwing though if I remember correctly) and CRT. Optionally pass that point you could add VIT, STR, or more AGI(this is either a max or leave at minimum for max ASPD, in between won't do much at all for you). VIT for more survival, STR for higher ATK(prioritize INT over this though) or AGI for EVA(needs 256+ to be effective for the most part). However I will also add that the damage will be pretty poor overall still since Servants don't get any kind of bonus to ATK or auto attacking. A Throwing auto attack Monk would definitely out perform this class by a lot and that's not even popular because it's not the best build for them. well then Umm mana wave 3 does more damage than my holy light and it took me almost 2 hours to kill the pursuer on mq it's was awefull
|
|
|
Post by ManaKhe on Jun 2, 2015 5:42:38 GMT
I'm curious as to why a throwing build... How do you plan on doing damage with these stats? I'm assuming you would be doing auto attacks, in which case the lack of CRT will mean your damage will be bad. So IF you were to do a Throwing build it would be INT AGI(only enough for max ASPD, unsure of Servant bonuses to AGI so I can't give you an exact number on the amount you need, 351 is max ASPD for Throwing though if I remember correctly) and CRT. Optionally pass that point you could add VIT, STR, or more AGI(this is either a max or leave at minimum for max ASPD, in between won't do much at all for you). VIT for more survival, STR for higher ATK(prioritize INT over this though) or AGI for EVA(needs 256+ to be effective for the most part). However I will also add that the damage will be pretty poor overall still since Servants don't get any kind of bonus to ATK or auto attacking. A Throwing auto attack Monk would definitely out perform this class by a lot and that's not even popular because it's not the best build for them. well then Umm mana wave 3 does more damage than my holy light and it took me almost 2 hours to kill the pursuer on mq it's was awefull Have you used any Counter gear? I strongly recommend Viola at least since it's easy to get from the first guild raids. Raid Box A gives it. I didn't take long to kill Pursuer really, it wasn't fast per se but not unbearably slow either and I was only using Viola when it came to counters. Probably like 1-2 minutes lol. It would be helpful to get a Sofys xtal and put that on something else as well.
|
|
|
Thinking
Jun 2, 2015 7:28:20 GMT
via mobile
Post by drrockso on Jun 2, 2015 7:28:20 GMT
well then Umm mana wave 3 does more damage than my holy light and it took me almost 2 hours to kill the pursuer on mq it's was awefull Have you used any Counter gear? I strongly recommend Viola at least since it's easy to get from the first guild raids. Raid Box A gives it. I didn't take long to kill Pursuer really, it wasn't fast per se but not unbearably slow either and I was only using Viola when it came to counters. Probably like 1-2 minutes lol. It would be helpful to get a Sofys xtal and put that on something else as well. yes I have cleric robe soyf and viola with soyf still took forever
|
|
|
Post by bob on Jun 2, 2015 16:00:17 GMT
Have you used any Counter gear? I strongly recommend Viola at least since it's easy to get from the first guild raids. Raid Box A gives it. I didn't take long to kill Pursuer really, it wasn't fast per se but not unbearably slow either and I was only using Viola when it came to counters. Probably like 1-2 minutes lol. It would be helpful to get a Sofys xtal and put that on something else as well. yes I have cleric robe soyf and viola with soyf still took forever Hmm I wouldn't recommend you to use these as you are just negating the counter of viola & c.robe by putting sofys in them. If you placed them elsewhere it would've been a lot better. :')
|
|
|
Post by Capicuo on Jun 2, 2015 17:12:02 GMT
My Servant App uses Dim sword IV, DPR UP ◇sofys, Doggy ears (lol) and lotus seeds. Atm is easy to solo MQ (soloed till Sianas 1 so far).
I want a Servchanter so badly x.x
New magic sword (the one from the sheep mob, dont remember the name) gives u matk boost by chance when atking (like resty does) so u can mix up counters and autoskill atks.
|
|
|
Post by ManaKhe on Jun 2, 2015 21:53:28 GMT
Have you used any Counter gear? I strongly recommend Viola at least since it's easy to get from the first guild raids. Raid Box A gives it. I didn't take long to kill Pursuer really, it wasn't fast per se but not unbearably slow either and I was only using Viola when it came to counters. Probably like 1-2 minutes lol. It would be helpful to get a Sofys xtal and put that on something else as well. yes I have cleric robe soyf and viola with soyf still took forever What bob said about negating the counters on those equips. It's generally not worth it to negate a counter with another counter. However Dark Priest Robe UP's counter isn't all that powerful so negating it with a Sofys xtal wouldn't be a terrible idea to be honest. Viola's counter is really strong so you don't want to negate it. It might honestly also be your lack of MATK. I had 2.2k ish MATK when I fought pursuer. I probably could have done better with a Resty Rod instead of the Dinat Rod I was using as well. I didn't think to switch to it at the time. This is a class that just will not do good damage, it just isn't gonna happen no matter what you do. However you should be able to still kill MQ solo fights at a manageable pace. Stuff will take a couple minutes or more usually though, there really isn't anything you can do about that. I'm also curious as to what level you were as well, probably wasn't super low at least as I don't think you can be super low at that MQ, I was 140 I think when I did it. I really think counter gear is going to be the main way Servants are gonna be able to do anything sort of damage at this point on their own. You could honestly just be setting your expectations for this class damage wise too high as well, as in expecting any at all considering we do the same damage that a Cleric can do(you know pre 120 lol).
|
|
|
Thinking
Jun 2, 2015 21:58:41 GMT
via mobile
Post by drrockso on Jun 2, 2015 21:58:41 GMT
yes I have cleric robe soyf and viola with soyf still took forever What bob said about negating the counters on those equips. It's generally not worth it to negate a counter with another counter. However Dark Priest Robe UP's counter isn't all that powerful so negating it with a Sofys xtal wouldn't be a terrible idea to be honest. Viola's counter is really strong so you don't want to negate it. It might honestly also be your lack of MATK. I had 2.2k ish MATK when I fought pursuer. I probably could have done better with a Resty Rod instead of the Dinat Rod I was using as well. I didn't think to switch to it at the time. This is a class that just will not do good damage, it just isn't gonna happen no matter what you do. However you should be able to still kill MQ solo fights at a manageable pace. Stuff will take a couple minutes or more usually though, there really isn't anything you can do about that. I'm also curious as to what level you were as well, probably wasn't super low at least as I don't think you can be super low at that MQ, I was 140 I think when I did it. I really think counter gear is going to be the main way Servants are gonna be able to do anything sort of damage at this point on their own. You could honestly just be setting your expectations for this class damage wise too high as well, as in expecting any at all considering we do the same damage that a Cleric can do(you know pre 120 lol). I was level 159 with 2500 matk using a heal rod slot with Gerust so yeah
|
|
|
Post by ManaKhe on Jun 2, 2015 23:53:06 GMT
What bob said about negating the counters on those equips. It's generally not worth it to negate a counter with another counter. However Dark Priest Robe UP's counter isn't all that powerful so negating it with a Sofys xtal wouldn't be a terrible idea to be honest. Viola's counter is really strong so you don't want to negate it. It might honestly also be your lack of MATK. I had 2.2k ish MATK when I fought pursuer. I probably could have done better with a Resty Rod instead of the Dinat Rod I was using as well. I didn't think to switch to it at the time. This is a class that just will not do good damage, it just isn't gonna happen no matter what you do. However you should be able to still kill MQ solo fights at a manageable pace. Stuff will take a couple minutes or more usually though, there really isn't anything you can do about that. I'm also curious as to what level you were as well, probably wasn't super low at least as I don't think you can be super low at that MQ, I was 140 I think when I did it. I really think counter gear is going to be the main way Servants are gonna be able to do anything sort of damage at this point on their own. You could honestly just be setting your expectations for this class damage wise too high as well, as in expecting any at all considering we do the same damage that a Cleric can do(you know pre 120 lol). I was level 159 with 2500 matk using a heal rod slot with Gerust so yeah By Heal Rod do you mean Heal Staff/Branch? Cause you know those lower all damage(or Magic Damage, can't remember specifically) by 50%. So that would definitely be a huge reason as to why you it took you so long. It's a Hidden stat that both have. They should only be used for healing.
|
|
|
Thinking
Jun 3, 2015 7:38:26 GMT
via mobile
Post by drrockso on Jun 3, 2015 7:38:26 GMT
I was level 159 with 2500 matk using a heal rod slot with Gerust so yeah By Heal Rod do you mean Heal Staff/Branch? Cause you know those lower all damage(or Magic Damage, can't remember specifically) by 50%. So that would definitely be a huge reason as to why you it took you so long. It's a Hidden stat that both have. They should only be used for healing. I use it for healing so it and dim sword where the only weps I had on me at the time
|
|
Pixie
Member
Profile pic wip by @Acetyl
|
Thinking
Jul 1, 2015 1:46:18 GMT
via mobile
Post by Pixie on Jul 1, 2015 1:46:18 GMT
By Heal Rod do you mean Heal Staff/Branch? Cause you know those lower all damage(or Magic Damage, can't remember specifically) by 50%. So that would definitely be a huge reason as to why you it took you so long. It's a Hidden stat that both have. They should only be used for healing. I use it for healing so it and dim sword where the only weps I had on me at the time Have you tried the magic sword from sheep mobs? Get *15 second* magic buff *on attack* (says strength to not overwrite bishop buff) i switch out with dia *sometimes* on my bishop pretty awesome
|
|
Yazmat
Community Contributor
Pally Lv351 | Alchy Lv318
|
Post by Yazmat on Jul 1, 2015 10:02:42 GMT
I use it for healing so it and dim sword where the only weps I had on me at the time Have you tried the new magic sword from sheep mobs? Get 4 minute magic buff i switch out with dia on my bishop pretty awesome That sword has an upgrade in the next town
|
|
|
Thinking
Jul 1, 2015 17:02:39 GMT
via mobile
Post by drrockso on Jul 1, 2015 17:02:39 GMT
I use it for healing so it and dim sword where the only weps I had on me at the time Have you tried the magic sword from sheep mobs? Get *15 second* magic buff *on attack* (says strength to not overwrite bishop buff) i switch out with dia *sometimes* on my bishop pretty awesome yeah I have it and to tell the truth it's horriable
|
|