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Post by Kozuki on May 22, 2015 13:57:37 GMT
o.o/ its not necessarily just warrior class, its for the use of swords. Swords gain atk from Dex no matter what type of sword it is. So Dex both has delay and atk. For this class what's needed is about 250 Dex and -2sec delay in order to spam tyrant edge. Ah OK Ty for clarifying sorry I've really NVR made any kind of warrior. Guessing that skill is good couldn't you spam it with nail tho. Still in planning don't really know what build to have. May step into completely unknown territory and start using swords. I'm currently working with nail build ATM so won't say this next part is 100%. According to a ninja I met on JP blogs he was able to spam doc with claws so I don't see why B.knight can't with nails. The only thing is there will be no Dex added so we will need lots of gear with delay. We need someone to find the amount of delay 256 Dex gives without any -sec gear first. Also I'm working a Agi CRT str=vit type build for claw ATM and I'll share what I find once I become b.knight and have the Aoe.
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Post by rahovart on May 22, 2015 14:04:23 GMT
Dex gives .1 delay every 16 stat points. Int gives .1 every 12. 80 dex will give you -.5. you. At 320 dex you'll have 2 secs of delay. We'll prob need delay gear regardless. I prob wouldn't overcap dex tho I'd want to add the extra to either str or agi tho. This class will make better use of my wolf ears than my monk anyway plus I got a spare ultimi. Come Halloween time green cat ears will be back they give -1 sec delay. Reason add agi after awhile deil style adds attack speed so the extra ago will get you going a little faster.
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Post by Kozuki on May 22, 2015 14:10:29 GMT
Dex gives .1 delay every 16 stat points. Int gives .1 every 12. 80 dex will give you -.5. you. At 320 dex you'll have 2 secs of delay. We'll prob need delay gear regardless. I prob wouldn't overcap dex tho I'd want to add the extra to either str or agi tho. This class will make better use of my wolf ears than my monk anyway plus I got a spare ultimi. Come Halloween time green cat ears will be back they give -1 sec delay. if nail then maybe we may need 4-6 seconds from gear. But should be tested.
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Post by rahovart on May 22, 2015 14:17:25 GMT
Truth be told you prob don't need to cap agi. I forgot the ratio deil style adds to attack speed but whatever cap vit adds to your attack speed just add whatever agi is needed to get to max attack speed then add add the leftover to dex. Being able to switch between sword and nail would be fun but not sure how it would plausibly work. BTW I'm not it even possible to reach 6 secs of delay without int or dex at the very least you'll need way to many QC abi but that's to expensive IMO. I thought beast skills took about 2 secs of delay right? If that's the case then its easily possible.
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Post by Kozuki on May 22, 2015 15:52:06 GMT
Truth be told you prob don't need to cap agi. I forgot the ratio deil style adds to attack speed but whatever cap vit adds to your attack speed just add whatever agi is needed to get to max attack speed then add add the leftover to dex. Being able to switch between sword and nail would be fun but not sure how it would plausibly work. BTW I'm not it even possible to reach 6 secs of delay without int or dex at the very least you'll need way to many QC abi but that's to expensive IMO. I thought beast skills took about 2 secs of delay right? If that's the case then its easily possible. yeah. I posted a link in another thread on the ratio using swords. No one has posted what the ratio for claws is yet. Also are you referring to adding Dex to claw or sword? Same with the Agi.
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Post by Kozuki on May 22, 2015 16:02:20 GMT
Truth be told you prob don't need to cap agi. I forgot the ratio deil style adds to attack speed but whatever cap vit adds to your attack speed just add whatever agi is needed to get to max attack speed then add add the leftover to dex. Being able to switch between sword and nail would be fun but not sure how it would plausibly work. BTW I'm not it even possible to reach 6 secs of delay without int or dex at the very least you'll need way to many QC abi but that's to expensive IMO. I thought beast skills took about 2 secs of delay right? If that's the case then its easily possible. foowa.info/zyouhou.blog/?p=2609
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Post by rahovart on May 22, 2015 19:06:15 GMT
Ya I corrected myself after doing research. You kinda got to go one way or another sword or nail not both. Otherwise your atk will be hollow. Nail beast sounds fun but you'll have like no SD. Youll need agi and str for your atk to be worth anything as well. So agi str vit sounds like it might work. Nail build that way seems like it would be great for survival.
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Post by Kozuki on May 22, 2015 19:11:09 GMT
Ya I corrected myself after doing research. You kinda got to go one way or another sword or nail not both. Otherwise your atk will be hollow. Nail beast sounds fun but you'll have like no SD. Youll need agi and str for your atk to be worth anything as well. So agi str vit sounds like it might work. Nail build that way seems like it would be great for survival. yeah xd. So I decided to do a Agi CRT=Str rest to vit. Agi mostly for Eva and CRT hopefully 200 as well as str since fear ailment is dependent on str. Vit still no idea on how it affects the atk speed of claws but it won't be super high. For the delay I'll have maybe 1-3 seconds from noob gear and the rest may be from abilities. I'm almost 100 curently lvl 87 so I should be able to start this project soon and report my findings.
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I get broads in atlanta tho :v
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Post by Aroxis on May 22, 2015 19:24:25 GMT
Dex gives .1 delay every 16 stat points. Int gives .1 every 12. 80 dex will give you -.5. you. At 320 dex you'll have 2 secs of delay. We'll prob need delay gear regardless. I prob wouldn't overcap dex tho I'd want to add the extra to either str or agi tho. This class will make better use of my wolf ears than my monk anyway plus I got a spare ultimi. Come Halloween time green cat ears will be back they give -1 sec delay. Reason add agi after awhile deil style adds attack speed so the extra ago will get you going a little faster. Doesn't this only apply to monk throw? I know that 55 dex gives 0.5 delay for glad pillar blade spam. And I can't agree that int affects delay for every class. Ik for a fact that it doesn't effect enchanter m.blade delay. I think dex delay changes with each skill.
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Post by rahovart on May 22, 2015 19:25:35 GMT
Its a build I'd suspect for a nail user I picture one prob with it tho. Surviving will be hard till your pretty up their in lvl XD
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Post by rahovart on May 22, 2015 19:28:41 GMT
Dex gives .1 delay every 16 stat points. Int gives .1 every 12. 80 dex will give you -.5. you. At 320 dex you'll have 2 secs of delay. We'll prob need delay gear regardless. I prob wouldn't overcap dex tho I'd want to add the extra to either str or agi tho. This class will make better use of my wolf ears than my monk anyway plus I got a spare ultimi. Come Halloween time green cat ears will be back they give -1 sec delay. Reason add agi after awhile deil style adds attack speed so the extra ago will get you going a little faster. Doesn't this only apply to monk throw? I know that 55 dex gives 0.5 delay for glad pillar blade spam. And I can't agree that int affects delay for every class. Ik for a fact that it doesn't effect enchanter m.blade delay. I think dex delay changes with each skill. I thought it was a universal system . I could be wrong tho so any1 feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
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Post by Kozuki on May 22, 2015 19:29:56 GMT
Dex gives .1 delay every 16 stat points. Int gives .1 every 12. 80 dex will give you -.5. you. At 320 dex you'll have 2 secs of delay. We'll prob need delay gear regardless. I prob wouldn't overcap dex tho I'd want to add the extra to either str or agi tho. This class will make better use of my wolf ears than my monk anyway plus I got a spare ultimi. Come Halloween time green cat ears will be back they give -1 sec delay. Reason add agi after awhile deil style adds attack speed so the extra ago will get you going a little faster. Doesn't this only apply to monk throw? I know that 55 dex gives 0.5 delay for glad pillar blade spam. And I can't agree that int affects delay for every class. Ik for a fact that it doesn't effect enchanter m.blade delay. I think dex delay changes with each skill. Not only that but it may just effect throwing. Seeing as int does nothing for normal or special weapons but give mp pool.
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I get broads in atlanta tho :v
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Post by Aroxis on May 22, 2015 19:32:27 GMT
Doesn't this only apply to monk throw? I know that 55 dex gives 0.5 delay for glad pillar blade spam. And I can't agree that int affects delay for every class. Ik for a fact that it doesn't effect enchanter m.blade delay. I think dex delay changes with each skill. I thought it was a universal system . I could be wrong tho so any1 feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. I think its pretty much set in stone that 256 dex gives -1 sec delay for the majority of the skills out there.
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Post by Famine on May 22, 2015 20:28:58 GMT
Dex gives .1 delay every 16 stat points. Int gives .1 every 12. 80 dex will give you -.5. Monks Geobreaker is the only skill in game(that I can think of at the moment anyways) that recieves -skill delay from Int. Also that dex bonus only applies to Geo breaker as well. As far as I know 256 Dex is -1 second skill delay for majority of skills unless stated otherwise on wiki.
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Post by nish on May 23, 2015 5:42:39 GMT
So this class dosent needs crit to deal high auto damage?
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