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Post by Jeancarlo on May 20, 2015 15:25:42 GMT
I have 5k mp, i don't have problems on mp while spamming guardian, i use cracked mage ore and melon juice from cooking (35 mp recovery for 10 min every 10 sec) and spamming Guardian continuous for 5 minutes, then i usually sit for a moment, but i have high recovery from blue red lines, if i run out and still need mp, i use yoghurt, 500 mp recovery, i just don't have problems on mp Build is int vit 370, dex 40 Not to be picky, but resting to regain MP would be considered a "problem" for most. I use to run around with Mage garb + rustling leaf earring on my NIN as the two helps regen MP while resting. Decided it's not worth it and just stacked up on salt lol.
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Yazmat
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Pally Lv351 | Alchy Lv318
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Post by Yazmat on May 20, 2015 15:36:44 GMT
For me, as a build int pally, and when farming solo, I never sit to Regen MP neither use any potions, simply because every now and then I sit for ~5 seconds to regen HP lost from guardian which is pretty quick especially with Divine Aura (and that sitting just makes my MP regen at the same time lol...).
Any way guys, don't stress about it too much, you will, hopefully and soon enough I hope, get a 1 mp cost skill (Night Geshu) which will make you forget about MP... (MP will only be used for buffs then), start worrying about your HP since it takes 50% of your current HP lol
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Post by Jeancarlo on May 20, 2015 16:37:40 GMT
For me, as a build int pally, and when farming solo, I never sit to Regen MP neither use any potions, simply because every now and then I sit for ~5 seconds to regen HP lost from guardian which is pretty quick especially with Divine Aura (and that sitting just makes my MP regen at the same time lol...). Any way guys, don't stress about it too much, you will, hopefully and soon enough I hope, get a 1 mp cost skill (Night Geshu) which will make you forget about MP... (MP will only be used for buffs then), start worrying about your HP since it takes 50% of your current HP lol Well not quite, since Night geshu is more a boss skill. From the vids I saw, not sure if it's AoE so you'll still want a guardian spam build.
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Yazmat
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Pally Lv351 | Alchy Lv318
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Post by Yazmat on May 20, 2015 16:59:00 GMT
For me, as a build int pally, and when farming solo, I never sit to Regen MP neither use any potions, simply because every now and then I sit for ~5 seconds to regen HP lost from guardian which is pretty quick especially with Divine Aura (and that sitting just makes my MP regen at the same time lol...). Any way guys, don't stress about it too much, you will, hopefully and soon enough I hope, get a 1 mp cost skill (Night Geshu) which will make you forget about MP... (MP will only be used for buffs then), start worrying about your HP since it takes 50% of your current HP lol Well not quite, since Night geshu is more a boss skill. From the vids I saw, not sure if it's AoE so you'll still want a guardian spam build. It is true that it is not a good idea to use when farming colons lol
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on May 20, 2015 23:28:23 GMT
For me, as a build int pally, and when farming solo, I never sit to Regen MP neither use any potions, simply because every nw and then I sit for ~5 seconds to regen HP lost from guardian which is pretty quick especially with Divine Aura (and that sitting just makes my MP regen at the same time lol...). Any way guys, don't stress about it too much, you will, hopefully and soon enough I hope, get a 1 mp cost skill (Night Geshu) which will make you forget about MP... (MP will only be used for buffs then), start worrying about your HP since it takes 50% of your current HP lol I wouldnt worry about hp either. From what I see, lower hp brings more dmg so you probably dont want to be In full health when you enter a boss fight. Just take 1 or 2 onigiris, 1hit kaboom the boss, then rinse repeat.
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Post by Jeancarlo on May 29, 2015 16:17:00 GMT
For builds with only 1 INT, how do you manage to spam skills? Using MP pots is ok but it consumes too many pots if I keep farming for hours. How do you overcome this? Is INT build much better in continuous grinding? Pots are REQUIRED for skill spam builds Alternatives to using Pots: Get a Wiz/HW to mana charge you Use CMO Along with pots Don't spam so much Even with Max INT you Will run out of MP eventually. my PLD has 180 INT, gets Limit (practically doubles my MP) and DivBless2 from Bish and still runs out of MP with continuous Guardian2 spam; I have to either use CMO, switch to Guardian1, or mana charge from my HW. Embarrassing to have forgotten but Dragon ewt Bangle also helps a lot.
Was just (re)trying out D Bangle+20% v KGnS and was quite surprised at how much more MP I was loosing over time without that "little" 5% Auto-regen. Same set, same game style (same PT even) with only these two different, and I was having to recharge PLD's mana almost 3x more frequently. I'll try to post actual MP per tick with and without it (with full bish buffs)
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Post by AnTz on Jun 1, 2015 4:48:31 GMT
Both int build & no int build stil hav to spam mp pot or sit. It just a matter of quantity of guardian can be spammed before run out of mp. My pally usually use altadora set when solo, or hav bishop & hw when farm in party If want big mp pool, I just switch idealsol with edelhood up slot mani. With it equipped, I hav 4k mp (Im vit str dex, no int)
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Post by Jeancarlo on Jun 1, 2015 17:19:32 GMT
Both int build & no int build stil hav to spam mp pot or sit. It just a matter of quantity of guardian can be spammed before run out of mp. My pally usually use altadora set when solo, or hav bishop & hw when farm in party If want big mp pool, I just switch idealsol with edelhood up slot mani. With it equipped, I hav 4k mp (Im vit str dex, no int) What is your MP with idealsol? I'm curious as am tempted to drpo my 180 INT to 1 and overcap Dex instead, but a little worried with MP (even with bish and hw team lol).
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Post by lacs on Jun 1, 2015 17:25:05 GMT
can i ask, as i know you are some of the highest lvl paladines i know, how much damage you do?
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Yazmat
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Post by Yazmat on Jun 1, 2015 19:48:59 GMT
can i ask, as i know you are some of the highest lvl paladines i know, how much damage you do? Knowing that I am a build vit>int>dex with a special sword I do 24k dmg with guardian on normal def mobs without Gloria with pally buffs only.
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Post by lacs on Jun 1, 2015 20:48:33 GMT
Im near that damage still low but just for like 8k, well, im 44 lvls lower than lvl cap, so its cool thank you
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Post by Jeancarlo on Jun 1, 2015 20:51:44 GMT
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Post by Wexel on Jun 1, 2015 21:22:25 GMT
For builds with only 1 INT, how do you manage to spam skills? Using MP pots is ok but it consumes too many pots if I keep farming for hours. How do you overcome this? Is INT build much better in continuous grinding? I'm too impatient to sit most of the time, Salt or farming stacks of Thick Re-magic (M). salt 300mp, Thick Remagic 650-800 MP/use. Top that off with CMO and I can usually go on a long farm session. (as long as I don't go overboard on DOC) *Reminds me of when hoards of folks would farm Dark Domain for Revita (L) for hours.
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Post by lacs on Jun 1, 2015 22:15:24 GMT
Well, we paladins will always have the mp problem, the advantage of those of us with int is that bless give us infinite mp, while those with 1 int can't maintain the mp even using bless, also, I'm not only using int for mp and mdef, i use viola, i make all that matk extra to do some nice amount of damage while countering, and it increases my heal, 4.1k right now, 4.6 using zweig shield
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Post by AnTz on Jun 4, 2015 8:17:35 GMT
What is your MP with idealsol? I'm curious as am tempted to drpo my 180 INT to 1 and overcap Dex instead, but a little worried with MP (even with bish and hw team lol). With katz II, licht armor, idealsol (all slot hp+20%) n kgs douin, I hav 1.9k-ish mp I nvr worried bout mp coz I ll only use that set when in full party farm. When solo, I use altadora set, which help me much at decreasing amount of pots used
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