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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2014 13:23:23 GMT
how is it working out for you so far Monket?
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Post by crazyket on Mar 25, 2014 13:55:49 GMT
how is it working out for you so far Monket? I cant last one lutor. Aspd is low. Eva is low. -ill figure it out later but im lazy. Dmg is low. Fun to spam gb but low dmg and eat too much mp. This build isnt for me. qwq |
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Post by ManaKhe on Mar 25, 2014 17:02:57 GMT
It may be possible you don't need max DEX for the skill delay with Fuma+Excelis Up. I guess since you got wolf ears too that might not be the case... From the sound of it though you didn't have any ATK xtals and that probably would have made a huge difference. Also since CRT boosts the damage Schwartz probably will too.
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Post by skyjaws on Mar 25, 2014 21:25:38 GMT
Agi/crt/Vit, will be proper build because the heal move that monkd have increase as Vit/Hp goes up
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Mar 25, 2014 21:29:52 GMT
I would agree that a half hearted experiment would seem wasteful. It would be like an agi crt sniper with gears and converting to dex str with hp gear to compare dps. Im no monk but if you were to try something new, build it well. Who knows, you might end up with an op build at a particular field
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Post by ManaKhe on Mar 25, 2014 23:55:40 GMT
Yeah I feel like if you added those left over points into CRT and had the proper xtals you would be hitting for 15k or so. Also how is the skill delay without Excelis+Wolf Ears?
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Post by crazyket on Mar 26, 2014 1:07:17 GMT
Full dex: (I used stopwatch..)
Without exe upg/w.ear/fuma, SD of GB is 4sec
With exe upg/w.ear/fuma, SD og GB is 2-3sec (meh)
I added the CRT from left over points and it increased a little GB damage like from 6k went to 7-8k.
Yes, I know it was half-hearted experiment but what I really wanted to see is the SD then those atk werent really my concern before I restat. Now that I restat, I wanna see how to save this stat, at least before I change back to my usual build.
ps. I dont mind getting suggestion. XD
edited: time.. spare me,. i didnt bothered to use the accurate stopwatch. =.=
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Post by crazyket on Mar 26, 2014 1:08:51 GMT
Agi/crt/Vit, will be proper build because the heal move that monkd have increase as Vit/Hp goes up Actually yes but it doesnt sounds fun for me. (though I am in dilemma right now) |
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Post by ManaKhe on Mar 26, 2014 1:49:02 GMT
Try using bash beforehand. I'm fairly certain that you will do double damage to stunned or frozen enemies. Hopefully INT increases the chance of stun on bash lol since its garbage normally.
I'm also seeing something about skill delay related to INT I think. Which is strange. The best thing I can gather about skill delay for it from JP Wiki is that 12 INT=-0.1 skill delay and 16 DEX=-0.1 skill delay. So from that INT should actually have more of an effect than DEX on the delay, I could be wrong though. This would mean max INT would add about -2.1 skill delay and max DEX would add -1.6 skill delay. If this is right than you would only have 1 second longer on the skill delay if you had switched the DEX and CRT. The values for delay from INT and DEX could be switched though because even Google Translating everything separately doesn't solve the weirdness lol.
Also try using H Helm or w/e you normally use for ATK over W Ears.
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Post by crazyket on Mar 26, 2014 4:31:07 GMT
Try using bash beforehand. I'm fairly certain that you will do double damage to stunned or frozen enemies. Hopefully INT increases the chance of stun on bash lol since its garbage normally. I'm also seeing something about skill delay related to INT I think. Which is strange. The best thing I can gather about skill delay for it from JP Wiki is that 12 INT=-0.1 skill delay and 16 DEX=-0.1 skill delay. So from that INT should actually have more of an effect than DEX on the delay, I could be wrong though. This would mean max INT would add about -2.1 skill delay and max DEX would add -1.6 skill delay. If this is right than you would only have 1 second longer on the skill delay if you had switched the DEX and CRT. The values for delay from INT and DEX could be switched though because even Google Translating everything separately doesn't solve the weirdness lol. Also try using H Helm or w/e you normally use for ATK over W Ears.
Anyway, here's my equip I tried...
Fuma @162 (maxmp13% coz i haz no atk xtals)
Schwartz +8 (BC)
H.Helm +8 (BC)
W.Ears +7 (maxhp17% same as fuma)
Exelis +8 (whatever I put here..)
Wisdom earring (Ganei)
So I'm testing it on Tonto (near drafbourg) and Im using chakra, of course~
trial 1: fuma/schwartz/h.helm/w.earring
Bash: 2.4k
GB: 11k
GB w/ Bash: 22k
trial 2: fuma/schwartz/w.ears/w.earring
Bash: 2.2k
GB: 10k
GB w/ Bash: 20k
trial 3: fuma/exe/w.ears/w.earrings
Bash: 2.1k
GB: 9-11k
GB w/ Bash:22k
trial 4: fuma/exe/h.helm/w.earrings
bash: 2.3k
GB: 5-10k (im surprised to see 5k)
GB w/ Bash: 20k
And with or without SD gear, bash is fast now~~ Thanks for reminding me..
Hmm I should put gather more critical II or atk% xtals to at least test it properly. I know it is kinda unfair to compare them w/o proper xtals. |
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Post by ManaKhe on Mar 26, 2014 5:25:50 GMT
Whichever is a higher % would probably be the best in the case of Geo since it isn't negatively affected by defence. Fuma/h helm/exe combo looks to be the best overall too. Hwiz probably need to know they can double Geo damage with Blizzard... Those 100k+ hits are most likely doubled too lol.
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Post by crazyket on Mar 26, 2014 6:27:09 GMT
Whichever is a higher % would probably be the best in the case of Geo since it isn't negatively affected by defence. Fuma/h helm/exe combo looks to be the best overall too. Hwiz probably need to know they can double Geo damage with Blizzard... Those 100k+ hits are most likely doubled too lol. For barriers like rita has where everybody does deal 1dmg including me, GB will deal 6-12 as max unless I did GB at the same time as SB was active. |
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Post by ManaKhe on Mar 26, 2014 6:33:58 GMT
I'm starting to think Geo spam was over hyped lol. Maybe its better at lvl 220 when we get lvl 2 Geo.
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Post by crazyket on Mar 26, 2014 6:37:09 GMT
I'm starting to think Geo spam was over hyped lol. Maybe its better at lvl 220 when we get lvl 2 Geo. Yeah~ but still, it is awesome for me to use.~ They only noticed it when tilt posted the screenie of GB. :3 As for 220, i think we'll get it when we're 240 or higher.. |
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