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Post by Umaru-chan on Oct 4, 2015 5:15:28 GMT
I'd troll this player with warcry/heals. Talk about annoying, the other day my bf & I helped 2 mq rushing ninja on Kerbela (don't remember English name, it's the boss before newest mq) They told us not to heal. He was on his 26x bishop. They complained about every buff and when they did die (didn't take 10 seconds for that to happen) we didn't heal them when they shouted for it xD It was cerbera o.o/ Aniki! Crystal! o.o/ umaru here hehe
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Post by Crysta| on Oct 4, 2015 5:27:33 GMT
Everytime i see a ninja say domt heal i instantly warcry,watch em die, and not heal Im not mean, just... Well he probably made someone upset so..divine retribution I use Magic barrier *^* need to confirm stone skins effect, was on a ruined pt last night(SH nin joined) tested Stone skin on him... He didnt die but he ranted to me saying he cant clone? Hmmm i wish i could have spam some more but tablet cant handle 2ench AA(not including me) and SH SPamming derpy DoC O.o magic barrier and stone skin have no effect on a ninja's ability to clone.
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Post by fcbarcelona on Oct 4, 2015 5:49:49 GMT
Everytime i see a ninja say domt heal i instantly warcry,watch em die, and not heal Im not mean, just... Well he probably made someone upset so..divine retribution I use Magic barrier *^* need to confirm stone skins effect, was on a ruined pt last night(SH nin joined) tested Stone skin on him... He didnt die but he ranted to me saying he cant clone? Hmmm i wish i could have spam some more but tablet cant handle 2ench AA(not including me) and SH SPamming derpy DoC O.o Stone skin that's the name I was looking for from the little claw wizards haha someone used it on me and couldn't clone with desperate move till it wore off
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bravebor
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Post by bravebor on Oct 4, 2015 7:21:41 GMT
Going back to my thesis, any one that has played as the Hunter branch have faced this class discrimination, many would-be op assassins/snipers end up stuck as a "fake" ninja because others refuse to party with them and they are forced to solo, some stick with it but I've seen many take the easy way out. Look yea I am biased against (the only class I am biased against) nin but that's only coz the dev team fudged and they fudged bad on it, tbh I would love to see way more hunter class in gam, I would love to see more monks also coz as any that know the game well, KNOW these classes can be op af but they take a lot to come into their own. It's what annoys me with the lack of consideration given to the effects on other classes because the 1 thing with the implementation of ninja class is how those 3 classes which are awesome in their own rights, have been pushed into near obscurity in favor of ninja. I really want these classes for my guild and always have, but majority of the time, it's nin being suggested by guildies (2 of whom should've been monks but coz expensive gear and it takes so long to come to fruition, they went ninja ) Yea ik I'm an ass with my constant ninja hate (nothing against cool ppl in the class tho) and it's funny af to pt with friends who are nin and take em to high stun mobs (about the only 1s I will pt nin on coz with their eva, there really is very little I can put in) so I can tank for them. I stand by my 2 points earlier also because there is little about them to refute, but I'm gunna stop now before I gain more hate rise here hehe tho there's a ton more I can add about things since.
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Post by Hiroshi★ on Oct 4, 2015 12:10:19 GMT
This thread , really hurts my ninja pride *^*
if i understand what u guys been talking about , its the nubbies that doesnt do research / doesnt know how to play ninja that u hate? or is the experienced included? >.>
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Post by Umaru-chan on Oct 4, 2015 12:33:18 GMT
This thread , really hurts my ninja pride *^* if i understand what u guys been talking about , its the nubbies that doesnt do research / doesnt know how to play ninja that u hate? or is the experienced included? >.> Only the SH/Stupid ones nubness is ok and understandble but if nubness persist for months or on high lvls i call it stupidity so really sorry if in some way i discriminate ninja class its just that hard to not stereotype because of them
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bravebor
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Post by bravebor on Oct 4, 2015 13:29:26 GMT
This thread , really hurts my ninja pride *^* if i understand what u guys been talking about , its the nubbies that doesnt do research / doesnt know how to play ninja that u hate? or is the experienced included? >.> My main beef with it really is just in the way it's set up which is pretty much purely to make money as I see it, where with most other classes you gotta grind hard to lvl and to make the spin for good equip, but the set up with nin is it's piss easy and cheap as to set up and to lvl in early stages and ppl can make good spina a hell of a lot earlier than most other classes therefore ensuring ppl otherwise easily diswayed when the going gets tough, they remain interested and possibly likely to stay with the game longer therefore ensuring a larger pool of ppl likely to pour money into the item shop. The other thing is as crystal said, since this class was introduced, ppl are far less inclined to try on 1 of the hunter types or monk and go the much easier to equip and lvl claw ninja and because of the high survivability of nin, ppl are less likely to seek out or to accept pt with the hunter classes than they are for nin even tho tbh, the hunter classes are hella awesome in there own right and as they get more skills, will just keep getting better and better and unlike nin, they actually have really useful buffs for pt members. the class is 1) a fake, at least the other classes resemble what they are named for like Paladin for instance is like the knights of old who would always form the vanguard or the rearguard and from who's efforts the lesser trained troops would take heart from (ik this as this is what my ancestors were for centuries) whereas with ninja, irl they fair enough, might have been op, but they were never - unless the job only required 1 - a solo deal, they always worked in village or family units. And 2) the job is a total cheat designed to get the ppl with less...backbone, more enthused about the game. It's like the only class that apart from magic or bow build, costs a mere pittance to equip and takes little to lvl. I say at the least for all of this, mio should be a damned solo quest for ppl otherwise it's just simply a free ride, just leech lvls to hundred, have some1 kill mio for you and your on you way (I mainly hate it for the fact it's a fake class tho ) Now back on to topic: I kinda think asteg might've said this 1 already lol but I'll say again. Those times when even tho there are a number of spawn points on the same map, how often when some1 farming same thing comes along, do they jump on 1 of the other just as good spawn points? Noooo they gotta start farming right where you are "so you wanna hold my hand or something is that it?" (Huehue 1 of the times I actually like ninja coz just heal till they leave ...try hw tho in this sitch and usually your screwed x.x) It's like bein out camping somewhere choice, there's a great expanse of space and many good spots with you being only person there...yet ppl come in and set up camp RIGHT NXT TO where you are -_- (heh heh thankfully easier to get rid of ppl irl, they don't call me Sasquatch or caveman for nothing AWOOGA!!)
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asteg
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yar yar...wind at ye backs me fellows.
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Post by asteg on Oct 4, 2015 14:12:57 GMT
I picked gladi for char #2 cuz i always saw alot of em comi up to me and farming.. And the one on fourms... You know who you are >.> ..
I'd rather be next to gladi then hw, thats all im saying cuz i actually like gladi as a class
Also, im annoyed at this but idk if its ok to be o.o i was doing mq on my bk (bk is actually pretty cool...well..beast knight is o.o) soloing mq(from 120-gerust).. And i got to gerust and stopped cuz the asp/skill delay was annoying me, so i went to farm p.water (that that outloud xD) and a bk randomly pt'd me and begged for mq...this isint really about bk/soloi mq its just that no one tries to solo...of course this is a mmo so the point is more to play with others...but i mean really x.x.. Does anyone try at this point? There wasnt ANYONE at guevol...watcha gonna do if you cant get help? x.x.. Oh god..why am i concered..
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2015 14:34:40 GMT
When poeple doesn't even bother to try once to solo their mqs. 50% you will fail. But I think on the bright side does he/she learned whats this boss can do by trying even once?
If I only have the guts to repeat another rokoko MQ series I will surely love to make another char and solo the mqs that I know I can (most likely sianas/guevol will make you pause) but is really fun how you setup your strategies each bosses, I've been told once that in order to solo Colon Tree try to use a bow even you have low atk because of your not bow related stats and dont let him getting close to you.
Believe me or not the first time I played this game I solo ferzen (managed to defeat it at lv.30+ tho I took about 14 repeats) and I was so happy just going in and out to the party field, where I'm troubled when a gargoyle approach me. Bothering me while sitting waiting for my HP to get full outside ferzen's area. Idk about pets my gears were crappy my stats is not sure as well. But I wont never forget Blaird made ne pause my mq and continue looking for PT on rockers.
Surely, ppl gets better when they learn from their mistakes.
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asteg
Dank Meme Lord
yar yar...wind at ye backs me fellows.
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Post by asteg on Oct 4, 2015 15:48:14 GMT
Yeah the major pause points are blaird,sinas, and guevol
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Post by Crysta| on Oct 4, 2015 17:13:50 GMT
Going back to my thesis, any one that has played as the Hunter branch have faced this class discrimination, many would-be op assassins/snipers end up stuck as a "fake" ninja because others refuse to party with them and they are forced to solo, some stick with it but I've seen many take the easy way out. Look yea I am biased against (the only class I am biased against) nin but that's only coz the dev team fudged and they fudged bad on it, tbh I would love to see way more hunter class in gam, I would love to see more monks also coz as any that know the game well, KNOW these classes can be op af but they take a lot to come into their own. It's what annoys me with the lack of consideration given to the effects on other classes because the 1 thing with the implementation of ninja class is how those 3 classes which are awesome in their own rights, have been pushed into near obscurity in favor of ninja. I really want these classes for my guild and always have, but majority of the time, it's nin being suggested by guildies (2 of whom should've been monks but coz expensive gear and it takes so long to come to fruition, they went ninja ) Yea ik I'm an ass with my constant ninja hate (nothing against cool ppl in the class tho) and it's funny af to pt with friends who are nin and take em to high stun mobs (about the only 1s I will pt nin on coz with their eva, there really is very little I can put in) so I can tank for them. I stand by my 2 points earlier also because there is little about them to refute, but I'm gunna stop now before I gain more hate rise here hehe tho there's a ton more I can add about things since. The dev team are not the one's at fault here, they tried to make ninja class op in it's own way just like every other class. The major fault is the way players use the class, example being ninja using claws and we also have monk using throws, they built weapon mastery skills in for a reason yet we choose to ignore them. Ninja isn't any less expensive than other class, classes with AOE are more effective at making spina. To farm effectively with a high Lvl ninja you need Ganei xtals (16M+ each). The easiest class to make spina with, including investment costs is high wizard. All you need is solve rod (4M), dark priest robe (4-6M), viola (easy drop Raid box A) with 2 False grecia (6-7m each) and shojo (7m). Using this setup you can easily farm neknott and make 2-3m per day, that's with casual play not all day grinding(also chance of Dodge charm slot, an easy 25-30M). High wizard also gets AOE as soon as Lvl 140, by the time this class reaches Lvl 160 from pure neknott grind it will have paid for itself. The developers have no effect on the game economy, they in no way designed ninja to be solely for making spina as I previously stated its far more effective to use a class with AOE.
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bravebor
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Post by bravebor on Oct 5, 2015 14:08:09 GMT
Those ppl ppl that "discretely" use sh coz they say there char runs to slow...man! These iruna maps are tiny as compared to some other games, just try getting from a to b quick in Izanagi and you don't even have the luxury of TPs there.
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Post by liliscarlet on Oct 5, 2015 17:26:38 GMT
Off Iruna a sec. Things that annoy me that ppl do. Play on toram and NOT know wat the freak Iruna is. Ppl can u pls at least read underneath the toram online part and see it says journey from Iruna. Ugh. I got more teaching to do ic.
On another subject anyone ever have a selfish player in their guild?? Iruna\toram doesn't wanna do anything but lvl himself and his friend in guild. Would love to hear wat y'all do with this one.
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eiric
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Post by eiric on Oct 5, 2015 18:04:10 GMT
Off Iruna a sec. Things that annoy me that ppl do. Play on toram and NOT know wat the freak Iruna is. Ppl can u pls at least read underneath the toram online part and see it says journey from Iruna. Ugh. I got more teaching to do ic. On another subject anyone ever have a selfish player in their guild?? Iruna\toram doesn't wanna do anything but lvl himself and his friend in guild. Would love to hear wat y'all do with this one. Oh well, had a few ppl who would leave me behind in mq... Hell, haven't been on in awhile and I eventually left guild on toram... For me they say toram looks better and I just leave it at that cuz I'd rather not waste the time... The storyline obviously shows what happened to Iruna...
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eiric
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Post by eiric on Oct 5, 2015 18:06:26 GMT
Another thing... I hate when ppl follow u all over the darn map... and never say anything... Like what? You want me to help? I can't read minds for Christ's sake -_-
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