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Post by elk on Mar 23, 2015 21:50:52 GMT
I'm kinda really sick of the massive amount of ego here, this place was meant for information, I used to read here every day when I was just a noob and now it's become a place of half truths, misleading information, drama and lies. People speaking on things they have no authority of, under qualified staff(not all) and such horrid criticism on ideals... It's gradually became something it wasn't intended to be, everyone is stubborn and so set in their ways anything from the norm is shunned. So I've decided to take my leave and bring with me everything I've learned in these few years of testing training and pushing every possible limit. note there are some people who withhold no information and bare it all and to those that do I respect you, but for the vast majority that don't... You should be ashamed of yourself. In this game we're all on the same side. You should act as such.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2015 22:09:02 GMT
Sorry to hear about that bud, hope you don't feel like that as the community continues to grow on this unofficial forum, of course you'd find people who always want to think they're right, but sometimes apathy is right at times and to ignore them like they don't exist in space xD
It is a shame you encountered this but hopefully you won't feel like this all the time lol, or at least I hope that the community improves in someway in the upcoming years x)
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Post by elk on Mar 23, 2015 22:43:09 GMT
Sorry to hear about that bud, hope you don't feel like that as the community continues to grow on this unofficial forum, of course you'd find people who always want to think they're right, but sometimes apathy is right at times and to ignore them like they don't exist in space xD It is a shame you encountered this but hopefully you won't feel like this all the time lol, or at least I hope that the community improves in someway in the upcoming years x) Cheers to hoping |
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Post by Tilt*Madara on Mar 23, 2015 23:18:58 GMT
I was curious to see what your talking about so I looked at your recent posts and I assume that your talking about the 220k doc thread and maybe a few other instances when this happens but tbh I haven't noticed most of what your saying. But then again I only post and view a few specific places so I cant speak for the entire forum.
For all I know, I could be the one making those problems(I have made a few in the past as most already know), Which If I am let me know in PMs and I could reevaluate my postings to make the forum a better place. As for the information part I try to tell all unless Im really working on something big (Which I am now) and I wont reveal to much about it just so some random idiot wont yell around saying that he found out xx and hes the best and whatever mess.
Anyways good luck with whatever you do next. Use what you learned to help out!
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Post by elk on Mar 23, 2015 23:28:06 GMT
I was curious to see what your talking about so I looked at your recent posts and I assume that your talking about the 220k doc thread and maybe a few other instances when this happens but tbh I haven't noticed most of what your saying. But then again I only post and view a few specific places so I cant speak for the entire forum. For all I know, I could be the one making those problems(I have made a few in the past as most already know), Which If I am let me know in PMs and I could reevaluate my postings to make the forum a better place. As for the information part I try to tell all unless Im really working on something big (Which I am now) and I wont reveal to much about it just so some random idiot wont yell around saying that he found out xx and hes the best and whatever mess. Anyways good luck with whatever you do next. Use what you learned to help out! Most I don't comment on because there's no point, better to just leave instead of useless conflict and only thentimesnive said anything was due to misplaced RL anger, I generally read all because all my 6 characters are 200+ so I'm in a lot. And preferably if one doesn't wish to share info then don't, just don't half truth it because people work hard on it and when they end up with a different result they'll be discouraged and give up, feel weak and unsatisfied. All and all better to be straight with something or not say anything at all |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2015 0:35:06 GMT
I completely agree with you. I've met quite a lot of people who tend to brag about what they have, how much damage they do, how much smarter they are at this game and tbh it does get extremely annoying.
One time I was doing raid and there was this guy putting down everyone. Calling them out on how they play their own class. Straight up ahole lol. Forgot his name but if he ever reads this, he will know exactly it's for him. Mr I'm just being "honest".
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Post by ggtalon on Mar 24, 2015 0:37:20 GMT
noticed something similar. kudos to pointing it out. now that its in the air some may feel differently. for some reason gear and builds are protected by many, maybe for the feeling that newer players would reach the same levels with less work. but hey the game is progressing and once they reach that point they also have something to offer. just as a side note, the ones who do post (such as Flarius) do get recognition, so maybe it could be for another reason. Either way, that wasn't really phrased to be a question so doesn't need an answer. haha honest post! xD GL! |
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Post by Tilt*Madara on Mar 24, 2015 0:49:12 GMT
noticed something similar. kudos to pointing it out. now that its in the air some may feel differently. for some reason gear and builds are protected by many, maybe for the feeling that newer players would reach the same levels with less work. but hey the game is progressing and once they reach that point they also have something to offer. just as a side note, the ones who do post (such as Flarius) do get recognition, so maybe it could be for another reason. Either way, that wasn't really phrased to be a question so doesn't need an answer. haha honest post! xD GL! Lol flarious only post like 5 times this month. Last post was on the 11th and its the 23rd now. Anyways back on topic...about not telling certain things like gear.. I personally dont tell every detail for originality reasons. I would hate to run into someone with my exact same set and ask why they use it and get a reply like "Because you use it..." not even knowing what its for or whatever else. |
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Post by elk on Mar 24, 2015 0:55:19 GMT
It's pretty egotistical to make a general topic about yourself considering no one was mentioned only flare for being straight forward which is like I said before awesome.
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Mar 24, 2015 1:03:24 GMT
...people work hard on it and when they end up with a different result they'll be discouraged and give up, feel weak and unsatisfied. This is a lousy attitude and is a recipe for failure. EDIT: People who had been spoonfed will often have this attitude. So it might not be worth saving them. |
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Post by innersin on Mar 24, 2015 2:12:34 GMT
Lol well of course there is ego..most of the players waste every moment of their lives playing..they've literally invested their life Into it lol not all..some play for fun, but there surely are players that treat the game as their life and gain a massive ego ( hate this statement all you want , people are too afraid to say the truth lol ) ..anyways that's just my view. No doubt the people here speaking their mind will be penalized OR this thread will be locked. " with power..comes abuse of that power" ..again, just my " two cents"  anyways ignore people like that and play for fun, it's the best way to enjoy the game. |
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Post by Stacy's Mom on Mar 24, 2015 2:44:20 GMT
we could say it's selfish from both sides, from the people who do things very well and wanting to have an advantage, to the people who are struggling and want to be better.
the coin has two faces.
one toss could mean everyone farms the same gear, has the same build, there's no diversity, everyone sticks with that which works. there's no diversity in parties, no market diversity, cause everyone will stick with the same thing cause it works.
land the other face of the coin and people will have their own ways of doing things, there's diversity in parties, you can see different builds comboing with eachother, there's market diversity, there's options.
people are not entitled to either keep or ask for information.
those who've accomplished something had their own ways, those who didn't can't just ask for it to be handed over.
if everyone has the same because it's "the best" there's no room for the question "how can i make it better".
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Post by Tilt*Madara on Mar 24, 2015 2:51:29 GMT
(Generally...To All...)
At the same time it is egotistical to make a general topic talking about the flaws of the community as if your not apart of it. Ask yourself "What can I do to make this better" instead of stating the obvious issues.
Yea these probs do exist but the best way to ignite a change is to do it yourself!
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Post by ✧ on Mar 24, 2015 3:52:31 GMT
Let me tell you something before I get to the main point:
You've signed up knowing things like this would happen, right? Why complain now?
Anyways, as I've previosusly mentioned in past posts, people are addicted to alcohol, the alcohol named Power. They want to be in the spotlight, above everyone else. They also like to order up a side of appetizing Attention. People love attention. They brag for attention. They brag to consume power. People show off their sets for attention and power, they don't reveal what they have to maintain position.
I know you're lying when you disagree to this point as we've all did/will do this...
In addition, people take the "right path" of knowledge. They'll force the "wrong path" into the ideals of the "right path". People tend to hate the "wrong"...they consider them as uneducated and retarded, uneducated to the "right".
This tends to vary upon differing viewpoints...ya know.
I can write a novel explaining all this bull but I don't want to waste my time. Everything is self explanatory.
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Post by elk on Mar 24, 2015 4:29:42 GMT
Its funny how those who stand against my obvious point are those who are guilty of it. Trying to correct my ideals of most of the people here you just solidify my statement, I was a part of these forums long before most of you, hell when this started on a total different site. It wasn't always like this. And that attitude will make sure it stays like this. This was a general rant, a view of how I see it. It's not gonna change because of what you say, it'll change when and if the problem changes. People wouldn't farm the same gear if encouraged to explore outside the norm which I said to begin with, do you half read comments? And seriously shape you are like one of the most egotistical self centered people I've met. There's nothing pleasant about you. "I reserve the right to be a jerk" yeah mkay >.> flocking here just to tell me that greaaat people aye? And spoonfed coming from the guy who uses low levels leaving them in drag for his own game taking away every first moment of a new player he encounters yeah we should totally listen to that huh IDC anymore go ahead if you wanna lock this, prove my point. |
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anyways ignore people like that and play for fun, it's the best way to enjoy the game. 
