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Post by Almas on Feb 2, 2015 5:18:48 GMT
While I can agree that bishop can solo bosses, just I think it's really not that efficient compared to other classes that can solo. I'm not so sure.
I mean, if my bishop can solo more efficiently than my ninja, I would have, long time ago, stopped using my ninja. Usually, I solo to make video. I solo to challenge myself, but when I need something off of boss, I wouldn't solo it, rather buy or farm it with party or solo it with my ninja.
Going back to the topic, I'll go with INT/DEX/VIT as well. And rely on counter. Tbh, nemesis is not so gimped at bosses, I still deal from 3K-12K at bosses xD
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Post by Tilt*Madara on Feb 2, 2015 6:08:46 GMT
While I can agree that bishop can solo bosses, just I think it's really not that efficient compared to other classes that can solo. I'm not so sure. I mean, if my bishop can solo more efficiently than my ninja, I would have, long time ago, stopped using my ninja. Usually, I solo to make video. I solo to challenge myself, but when I need something off of boss, I wouldn't solo it, rather buy or farm it with party or solo it with my ninja. Going back to the topic, I'll go with INT/DEX/VIT as well. And rely on counter. Tbh, nemesis is not so gimped at bosses, I still deal from 3K-12K at bosses xD What do you meam by efficient? If you mean in terms of # of bosses soloable, bishop still beats more than a ninja can. Yea its a little slow because of the damage but i still dont see what you mean by efficient. Imo if i wanted a sure win vs something i would choose a bishop. Ninja is just popular and the clones are so hyped up x.x. but yea I do agree that a ninja is a "Boss soloing class" while a bishop is not.
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Post by Almas on Feb 2, 2015 6:15:59 GMT
While I can agree that bishop can solo bosses, just I think it's really not that efficient compared to other classes that can solo. I'm not so sure. I mean, if my bishop can solo more efficiently than my ninja, I would have, long time ago, stopped using my ninja. Usually, I solo to make video. I solo to challenge myself, but when I need something off of boss, I wouldn't solo it, rather buy or farm it with party or solo it with my ninja. Going back to the topic, I'll go with INT/DEX/VIT as well. And rely on counter. Tbh, nemesis is not so gimped at bosses, I still deal from 3K-12K at bosses xD What do you meam by efficient? If you mean in terms of # of bosses soloable, bishop still beats more than a ninja can. Yea its a little slow because of the damage but i still dont see what you mean by efficient. Imo if i wanted a sure win vs something i would choose a bishop. Ninja is just popular and the clones are so hyped up x.x. but yea I do agree that a ninja is a "Boss soloing class" while a bishop is not. Just when for example, I want to farm it for its common/uncommon drop. Ninja even if it probably die from time to time will still do more kills in one hour compared to a bishop. Then again it depends on boss, Zimov for example might be bad lol, I'm not so sure now after status release though. Like a few alchemy levels ago, I needed to kill Magonza for it's common drop. My bishop can kill Magonza just fine so is my ninja. But I'd prefer ninja any day just cause it is efficient. (Hope I made the point clear.) I love both my bishop and ninja though, they just can solo fine or they are perfect for my needs and doesn't really rely on people to be fine. :v... I'd have to agree that bish can solo more bosses without maybe even death. o.o/
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Post by Tilt*Madara on Feb 2, 2015 6:42:21 GMT
What do you meam by efficient? If you mean in terms of # of bosses soloable, bishop still beats more than a ninja can. Yea its a little slow because of the damage but i still dont see what you mean by efficient. Imo if i wanted a sure win vs something i would choose a bishop. Ninja is just popular and the clones are so hyped up x.x. but yea I do agree that a ninja is a "Boss soloing class" while a bishop is not. Just when for example, I want to farm it for its common/uncommon drop. Ninja even if it probably die from time to time will still do more kills in one hour compared to a bishop. Then again it depends on boss, Zimov for example might be bad lol, I'm not so sure now after status release though. Like a few alchemy levels ago, I needed to kill Magonza for it's common drop. My bishop can kill Magonza just fine so is my ninja. But I'd prefer ninja any day just cause it is efficient. (Hope I made the point clear.) I love both my bishop and ninja though, they just can solo fine or they are perfect for my needs and doesn't really rely on people to be fine. :v... I'd have to agree that bish can solo more bosses without maybe even death. o.o/ Lol at that point thats farming
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Post by shinigamixxx on Feb 2, 2015 6:49:26 GMT
I have an: Wizard lv 104 Ninja lv 104 Knight who goes pally lv 80
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Post by Almas on Feb 2, 2015 6:50:31 GMT
Just when for example, I want to farm it for its common/uncommon drop. Ninja even if it probably die from time to time will still do more kills in one hour compared to a bishop. Then again it depends on boss, Zimov for example might be bad lol, I'm not so sure now after status release though. Like a few alchemy levels ago, I needed to kill Magonza for it's common drop. My bishop can kill Magonza just fine so is my ninja. But I'd prefer ninja any day just cause it is efficient. (Hope I made the point clear.) I love both my bishop and ninja though, they just can solo fine or they are perfect for my needs and doesn't really rely on people to be fine. :v... I'd have to agree that bish can solo more bosses without maybe even death. o.o/ Lol at that point thats farming I just proved what I said in my first comment about how bishop, no matter how it can solo, is not really that efficient at times. Yes it is farming. To what reason do you solo anyway? Or to what reason did author wanna solo anyway? If it's MQ, I think it's irrelevant, cause MQ stupid easy. Do you kill a boss for one run and say 'Yes I soloed the boss, my build works. On to the next.' I don't think the author is asking in that context so I talked about efficiency which is proven in my last post.
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Post by Tilt*Madara on Feb 2, 2015 11:51:38 GMT
Lol at that point thats farming I just proved what I said in my first comment about how bishop, no matter how it can solo, is not really that efficient at times. Yes it is farming. To what reason do you solo anyway? Or to what reason did author wanna solo anyway? If it's MQ, I think it's irrelevant, cause MQ stupid easy. Do you kill a boss for one run and say 'Yes I soloed the boss, my build works. On to the next.' I don't think the author is asking in that context so I talked about efficiency which is proven in my last post. Haha Why do I solo? Why do people farm billions? Why do people hit level cap? Why do people want to get the perfect gear and stats, even down to the last %? Thats oblivious. For fun! For bragging rights! To show mastery of something! In the case of soloing, The game has no pvp so its a long and hard challenge to build your character in a way that could beat the "big dogs" of the game. It forces you to learn about your characters strengths and weaknesses and teaches how to use every skill. Every boss its like a puzzle that you have to learn about and approach differently to be able to destroy it face to face without a pet. I can help out a lot of people too! Anyone that needs a mq kill just let me know! And its not like thered anything else to do. Im already cap, rich, tried every build and experimented with my own and have all the gear that i want besides a 2s resty rod x.x. theres nothing else to do but solo bosses. Bragging rights feel good too.
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Post by Almas on Feb 2, 2015 14:37:21 GMT
I just proved what I said in my first comment about how bishop, no matter how it can solo, is not really that efficient at times. Yes it is farming. To what reason do you solo anyway? Or to what reason did author wanna solo anyway? If it's MQ, I think it's irrelevant, cause MQ stupid easy. Do you kill a boss for one run and say 'Yes I soloed the boss, my build works. On to the next.' I don't think the author is asking in that context so I talked about efficiency which is proven in my last post. Haha Why do I solo? Why do people farm billions? Why do people hit level cap? Why do people want to get the perfect gear and stats, even down to the last %? Thats oblivious. For fun! For bragging rights! To show mastery of something! In the case of soloing, The game has no pvp so its a long and hard challenge to build your character in a way that could beat the "big dogs" of the game. It forces you to learn about your characters strengths and weaknesses and teaches how to use every skill. Every boss its like a puzzle that you have to learn about and approach differently to be able to destroy it face to face without a pet. I can help out a lot of people too! Anyone that needs a mq kill just let me know! And its not like thered anything else to do. Im already cap, rich, tried every build and experimented with my own and have all the gear that i want besides a 2s resty rod x.x. theres nothing else to do but solo bosses. Bragging rights feel good too. If you just wanna solo for bragging, you could have just ignored my comment about how bishop aren't the most efficient boss soloist at this point. Cause at the end of the day, you don't really care about how long it takes for you to kill cause you only need a kill for you to move on. Heck we don't even know as to what purpose this question is for the author but I assumed he's not here to ask build for his character so he can brag later on. If you even try to read his last reply. For that reason I pointed out the inefficiency.
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Post by eury quit iruna on Feb 2, 2015 20:09:10 GMT
What stats must i do for solojng bosses? I will make an dmg/heal bishop! Hello thread OP, for what purpose do you intend to solo bosses? Is it for easy solo mq? Or are you up to ze purpose of farming bosses for spina? Or just coz you want to roll that way, solo bosses for fun/prove something etc... To clear up things up based on how the discussion in this thread have gone. Teehee.
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Post by shinigamixxx on Feb 3, 2015 5:48:29 GMT
I wana boss soloing for farm and spina.
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Post by Almas on Feb 3, 2015 7:45:17 GMT
I wana boss soloing for farm and spina. Goes back to what I said, bishop solo boss farming probably slow and might give lower spina gain. But yeah, go for VIT, that's how I'd do it. ^^ A bishop, tank or not can always get party provided you know how to heal and buff/revive.
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Post by Tilt*Madara on Feb 3, 2015 10:13:46 GMT
Either way the stats are the same unless you want agi instead of VIT.
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Aki
Community Contributor
bleh..
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Post by Aki on Feb 3, 2015 22:25:14 GMT
We need this move x.x
My kiji lvling so slow sigh..
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Post by Almas on Feb 4, 2015 1:26:55 GMT
We need this move x.x My kiji lvling so slow sigh.. Yussh we do. *^* Friend got it on her Runa e.e (My kijimu so slow too, I keep forgetting to feed. Kinda ironic since I sell pet food lol.)
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Post by eury quit iruna on Feb 4, 2015 8:51:15 GMT
Aki Almas hlysht that kill was friggin fast e.e my hw's kiji lvld to 50 and learned vit+1 skill. I used it for an experiment instead. Synth with Mani and mani disappeared while the kiji shrunk. (Pardon Im too nub about pets) q.q My bish's kiji needs to learn dual blow instead. shinigamixxx your pet must have dual blow then XD
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