Pichu
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Post by Pichu on Jan 27, 2015 13:16:57 GMT
If you are using thimble then screw atleta haha,thimble is suited for bows and is a great spec equip.For now i dont think you need more hp-%,do you have ultimi?Ultimi has the effects of shwartz without -hp,adds melee damage and reduces delay aaand gives a bit absolute eva,you could switch between ultimi and schwartz(schwartz 1 has -30% hp + ganei -30% =-60%) to clone. Yeah but with the new strategies made i won't need thimble im going to max out my agility and crit twice agility adds most benefit bc it adds to atk since using special bow and to evasion and attack speed it also benefits more since ghost ring is equiped and for crit is because it adds more attack and raises crit damage every two points and rate so thats 3 benefits and will greatly increase its damage dex mainly just increase hit rate but with such speed missing won't really matter with such high attack speed i dont get much of the stuff u were sayin but lets see.. new strategy without thimble? wutchu gonna do with em dex since dex doesnt even add any dmg without thimble for special bow? n yea agi increase atk for bow by 2.5ish n crt by 1 but max aspd is 340ish so even if u have like 1k aspd u'll attack at same speed as a guy with 340ish aspd.. dex doesnt only increase hit rate it increase cast speed, skill delay n with thimble it increase 1 atk per dex when equip with bow..
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bloodrain567
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Post by bloodrain567 on Jan 27, 2015 16:18:58 GMT
Yeah but with the new strategies made i won't need thimble im going to max out my agility and crit twice agility adds most benefit bc it adds to atk since using special bow and to evasion and attack speed it also benefits more since ghost ring is equiped and for crit is because it adds more attack and raises crit damage every two points and rate so thats 3 benefits and will greatly increase its damage dex mainly just increase hit rate but with such speed missing won't really matter with such high attack speed i dont get much of the stuff u were sayin but lets see.. new strategy without thimble? wutchu gonna do with em dex since dex doesnt even add any dmg without thimble for special bow? n yea agi increase atk for bow by 2.5ish n crt by 1 but max aspd is 340ish so even if u have like 1k aspd u'll attack at same speed as a guy with 340ish aspd.. dex doesnt only increase hit rate it increase cast speed, skill delay n with thimble it increase 1 atk per dex when equip with bow.. You get more atk with crit and agility does increase speed more and even if it didn't your evasion would be a lot higher making it less likely to be hit and cast speed really will not matter if they're unable to land a hit on you so power>accuracy in my opinion I'm not trying to argue its just my strategy
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Post by Crysta| on Jan 27, 2015 20:33:13 GMT
You get more atk with crit False CRT = 1 atk with special bow. DEX = 1 atk with special bow when thimble is equipped. It does not. Refer to this thread irunaonline.boards.net/thread/211/max-aspd-weapon-rise-evanes Evasion would be higher but magic attacks don't miss unless you have magic evasion from equips. Cast speed from DEX would shorten the delay on desperate move, for faster cloning. One really wouldn't benefit from the Hit rate (accuracy) because crit rate is maxed and crits never miss, CRT is your hit rate.
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Post by Shori>.< on Jan 28, 2015 0:33:43 GMT
You get more atk with crit False CRT = 1 atk with special bow. DEX = 1 atk with special bow when thimble is equipped. It does not. Refer to this thread irunaonline.boards.net/thread/211/max-aspd-weapon-rise-evanes Evasion would be higher but magic attacks don't miss unless you have magic evasion from equips. Cast speed from DEX would shorten the delay on desperate move, for faster cloning. One really wouldn't benefit from the Hit rate (accuracy) because crit rate is maxed and crits never miss, CRT is your hit rate. I think what he mean is that agi add base damage and eva so increase damage and survival against mob and boss that hit fast and rarely miss. Crit add atk with special bow and crit damage not to mention DOC damage (or is it the same thing?) so you can do more damage with crit than dex.
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bloodrain567
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Post by bloodrain567 on Jan 28, 2015 0:57:01 GMT
False CRT = 1 atk with special bow. DEX = 1 atk with special bow when thimble is equipped. It does not. Refer to this thread irunaonline.boards.net/thread/211/max-aspd-weapon-rise-evanes Evasion would be higher but magic attacks don't miss unless you have magic evasion from equips. Cast speed from DEX would shorten the delay on desperate move, for faster cloning. One really wouldn't benefit from the Hit rate (accuracy) because crit rate is maxed and crits never miss, CRT is your hit rate. I think what he mean is that agi add base damage and eva so increase damage and survival against mob and boss that hit fast and rarely miss. Crit add atk with special bow and crit damage not to mention DOC damage (or is it the same thing?) so you can do more damage with crit than dex. Exactly which I'm going for a high atk special bow type ninja
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Post by Crysta| on Jan 28, 2015 1:19:40 GMT
I think what he mean is that agi add base damage and eva so increase damage and survival against mob and boss that hit fast and rarely miss. Crit add atk with special bow and crit damage not to mention DOC damage (or is it the same thing?) so you can do more damage with crit than dex. He stated AGI continues to increase attack speed, beyond the max speed at around 144 AGI which is to what I was responding. DOC damage is based on your crit damage. It would depend on the defense of the target whether more base atk or crit damage would do more overall damage.
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Post by ryo on Jan 28, 2015 5:29:40 GMT
I think what he mean is that agi add base damage and eva so increase damage and survival against mob and boss that hit fast and rarely miss. Crit add atk with special bow and crit damage not to mention DOC damage (or is it the same thing?) so you can do more damage with crit than dex. He stated AGI continues to increase attack speed, beyond the max speed at around 144 AGI which is to what I was responding. DOC damage is based on your crit damage. It would depend on the defense of the target whether more base atk or crit damage would do more overall damage. Isnt crit damage also based on your base attack? Wouldnt it be better to raise agi or str(assuming nail user) than crit? I am confused @.@
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Roxzen
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Goodbye :) Thanks for the memories Iruna, the Forums was an awesome place!
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Post by Roxzen on Jan 28, 2015 5:37:44 GMT
He stated AGI continues to increase attack speed, beyond the max speed at around 144 AGI which is to what I was responding. DOC damage is based on your crit damage. It would depend on the defense of the target whether more base atk or crit damage would do more overall damage. Isnt crit damage also based on your base attack? Wouldnt it be better to raise agi or str(assuming nail user) than crit? I am confused @.@ it is affected by your base atk but, you will see a big difference between high base atk and crt dmg, I used to have an exe up as my armor for the Ganei set around 1.69k atk at the time, the difference between my DoC damage while wearing my exe ganei vs Ultimi Magonza was about 10k even when I had lower base atk with Ultimi 1.55k to be exact. My Ultimi maggie would always dish out higher due to the crt up stat.
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Post by Crysta| on Jan 28, 2015 6:39:20 GMT
Isnt crit damage also based on your base attack? Wouldnt it be better to raise agi or str(assuming nail user) than crit? I am confused @.@ I'm going to assume your referring to stat training or apostolia. Raising AGI/STR would be more of a boost in your auto atk damage, not so much on DOC damage. Raising AGI/CRT would be the opposite, higher DOC damage and not so higher auto atk damage.
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