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Post by Shori>.< on Jan 22, 2015 14:18:10 GMT
Still a little conflicted on either to go minstrel or magic/doc spammer ninja.
1) dex does not decrease minstrel song delay (?). 2)dragon newt song damage is based on crit and atk. Does str increase damage if using weapon such as special bow (without kongo arrow)? 3) dnewt song is a party aoe. Does it attack all of party member's target or only 1 at random? If the first is true, up to how many? 4)dnewt song damage also effected by party member attack. Does that mean dnewt will do more damage if we party warrior type class than mage type class?
Please help clear it up. Thank you very much to those who help.
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Post by ManaKhe on Jan 23, 2015 3:00:29 GMT
Still a little conflicted on either to go minstrel or magic/doc spammer ninja. 1) dex does not decrease minstrel song delay (?). 2)dragon newt song damage is based on crit and atk. Does str increase damage if using weapon such as special bow (without kongo arrow)? 3) dnewt song is a party aoe. Does it attack all of party member's target or only 1 at random? If the first is true, up to how many? 4)dnewt song damage also effected by party member attack. Does that mean dnewt will do more damage if we party warrior type class than mage type class? Please help clear it up. Thank you very much to those who help. 1)I'm pretty sure it does? I could be wrong 2)Anything that increases ATK or Crit Damage will increase damage. So if you add STR on Special Bow while not using Kongo Arrow then you won't get any increase in damage. 3)Party AOE hits all targets that are already targeted by you or the party up to 3 targets. JP wiki does so 4 but I've never noticed hitting 4 with other Pt AOEs. So you can actually hit up to 3 targets if you have already targeted them(they will be red on the minimap instead of orange) 4)I've never heard of it being affected by party member's attack. I have heard of it being affected by the amount of people in your party though. Also if it is affected by party members attack here are the classes that will have high ATK(we'll say 2k+ at cap):Everyone except for Bishop, High Wizard, and maybe Paladin. Soo you got plenty of options for high ATK party members. I've yet to see a Minstrel spam Dnewt song though as I've heard it does low damage.
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Post by Shori>.< on Jan 23, 2015 5:13:54 GMT
Still a little conflicted on either to go minstrel or magic/doc spammer ninja. 1) dex does not decrease minstrel song delay (?). 2)dragon newt song damage is based on crit and atk. Does str increase damage if using weapon such as special bow (without kongo arrow)? 3) dnewt song is a party aoe. Does it attack all of party member's target or only 1 at random? If the first is true, up to how many? 4)dnewt song damage also effected by party member attack. Does that mean dnewt will do more damage if we party warrior type class than mage type class? Please help clear it up. Thank you very much to those who help. 1)I'm pretty sure it does? I could be wrong 2)Anything that increases ATK or Crit Damage will increase damage. So if you add STR on Special Bow while not using Kongo Arrow then you won't get any increase in damage. 3)Party AOE hits all targets that are already targeted by you or the party up to 3 targets. JP wiki does so 4 but I've never noticed hitting 4 with other Pt AOEs. So you can actually hit up to 3 targets if you have already targeted them(they will be red on the minimap instead of orange) 4)I've never heard of it being affected by party member's attack. I have heard of it being affected by the amount of people in your party though. Also if it is affected by party members attack here are the classes that will have high ATK(we'll say 2k+ at cap):Everyone except for Bishop, High Wizard, and maybe Paladin. Soo you got plenty of options for high ATK party members. I've yet to see a Minstrel spam Dnewt song though as I've heard it does low damage. Thank you Mana. Saw a minstrel in youtube doing 20k+ damage with dnewt. Not sure the level, but is that low damage? Considering that minstrel got no other atk skill that's probably the best we can get. Still beat auto atk though. Maybe if we can get the skill delay down to 5 or 4 second, dnewt will worth something?
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Post by ManaKhe on Jan 23, 2015 17:10:34 GMT
1)I'm pretty sure it does? I could be wrong 2)Anything that increases ATK or Crit Damage will increase damage. So if you add STR on Special Bow while not using Kongo Arrow then you won't get any increase in damage. 3)Party AOE hits all targets that are already targeted by you or the party up to 3 targets. JP wiki does so 4 but I've never noticed hitting 4 with other Pt AOEs. So you can actually hit up to 3 targets if you have already targeted them(they will be red on the minimap instead of orange) 4)I've never heard of it being affected by party member's attack. I have heard of it being affected by the amount of people in your party though. Also if it is affected by party members attack here are the classes that will have high ATK(we'll say 2k+ at cap):Everyone except for Bishop, High Wizard, and maybe Paladin. Soo you got plenty of options for high ATK party members. I've yet to see a Minstrel spam Dnewt song though as I've heard it does low damage. Thank you Mana. Saw a minstrel in youtube doing 20k+ damage with dnewt. Not sure the level, but is that low damage? Considering that minstrel got no other atk skill that's probably the best we can get. Still beat auto atk though. Maybe if we can get the skill delay down to 5 or 4 second, dnewt will worth something? I've never heard of a Minstrel hitting close to 20k xD. He was probably high leveled and well geared. That however is low damage compared to what people at higher levels do nowadays, better than most Claw builds still though. Minstrel is never taken for damage anyways though. You can probably get Dnewt's delay down to 1 second, 5 or 4 would be suuper slow. Btw you are double posting for some reason xD.
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Post by Shori>.< on Jan 23, 2015 23:10:16 GMT
Darn must be because of slow internet lol
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Post by Pixie on Mar 28, 2015 4:23:33 GMT
Dragon newt song is affected by your crt stat. Nostalgia song will also boost the damage. If you party with a ninja or two, your dmg will be higher I believe it is because they also have high crt. I think aoe, means it selects all party members as a multiplier, not that it does damage to multiple targets. I can only damage 1 target regardless of how many neks a wizard pulls in.
Also, I have max dex, if it does help with delay, it might only be a .1 sec or something lol. Its really not noticeable to me. You'd do better just to max crt no matter what build you choose. For a dragon newt song spammer just stack up on skill delay equipment and star abilities and crt dmg % xtals.
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Post by drrockso on Apr 17, 2015 23:09:49 GMT
Thank you Mana. Saw a minstrel in youtube doing 20k+ damage with dnewt. Not sure the level, but is that low damage? Considering that minstrel got no other atk skill that's probably the best we can get. Still beat auto atk though. Maybe if we can get the skill delay down to 5 or 4 second, dnewt will worth something? I've never heard of a Minstrel hitting close to 20k xD. He was probably high leveled and well geared. That however is low damage compared to what people at higher levels do nowadays, better than most Claw builds still though. Minstrel is never taken for damage anyways though. You can probably get Dnewt's delay down to 1 second, 5 or 4 would be suuper slow. Btw you are double posting for some reason xD. i did 20k with full party I'm dps based tho
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Post by ManaKhe on Apr 17, 2015 23:38:09 GMT
I've never heard of a Minstrel hitting close to 20k xD. He was probably high leveled and well geared. That however is low damage compared to what people at higher levels do nowadays, better than most Claw builds still though. Minstrel is never taken for damage anyways though. You can probably get Dnewt's delay down to 1 second, 5 or 4 would be suuper slow. Btw you are double posting for some reason xD. i did 20k with full party I'm dps based tho xD That was a really old post. I've since seen someone hitting 100k. That's not really under normal circumstances though(requires a specific party setup). Highest I've seen solo is like 60k. I've changed my opinions on Minstrels and damage xD. I've seen the light!
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