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Post by oblax on Nov 21, 2014 20:49:08 GMT
Which is better for ninja addgear for item buff aldoor or battle surcoat? I havent tried b.surcoat so idk how much attack will it increase and duration as for aldoor its +20% attck from what i heard
And another question, whats best for damage koda2 @170 +9/ganei or b.claw @175 +9/ ganei
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Roxzen
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Post by Roxzen on Jan 2, 2015 22:48:02 GMT
Koda for dmg of course, but I like my evasion, so I'm sticking with my B.Claw, and you can't compare the difference between Aldoor or B.Surcoat until you have 200+ stat points into str. (For B.Surcoat buff) PS theres another up for claws too  Re-Re-Upgraded - Erudan City: (Gerukuro, Attack: 220-235) Evasion +10%, Accurachy +20%, Physical Power increase by CRT & DEX, AGI Percentage increases a little |
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Post by Almas on Jan 3, 2015 22:40:19 GMT
If you have 200 Str and using Nail weapon and would like to compare which one's buff would deal more damage it would be Battle Surcoat. I have tested it before. Aldoor is for when you use bow.
Koda will win cause of its critical damage +%.
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Post by optimus on Jan 4, 2015 10:59:38 GMT
If you have 200 Str and using Nail weapon and would like to compare which one's buff would deal more damage it would be Battle Surcoat. I have tested it before. Aldoor is for when you use bow. Koda will win cause of its critical damage +%. How bout switching to horned helm up ganei/yellow glasses ganei, exactly when aldoor buff is on!!?? Does it give more dmg?? O.o Btw its me Optimu$ followed u here :3 |
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Post by optimus on Jan 4, 2015 12:04:56 GMT
So here is my calculation:
Here is a standard assumption of a ninja char:
Str 200
Agi 256
Crit 256
And approx Atk 1500
First b.surcoat vida:
Atk buff is on!
Lets assume atk is now 1800 for the buff and b.surcoat vida gives +17%atk so +(17% of 1500)
Total Atk is now 2055!!
Second Aldoor and horned helm up ganei:
Again assuming atk is 1800 now because of aldoor buff.
Switching to horned helm up ganei whose stat is +13% atk i.e. +(13% of 1500) and atk by 15% of crit
With the 13%, the atk is 1995
Now wid 15% of crit (15% of 256)
Total atk is 2033.4..
Using horned helm up vida gives 2063.4 atk by this calculation but using it will still b a prob to make clones..just like wid b.surcoat. (if using g.ring ganei to make hp 1 then auto kill for ninjas against many bosses)
Where as wid horned helm up ganei u can just switch schwartz ganei wid ultimi magonza/dorry to make clones..no 1hp wid g.ring ganei when u need eva and no autokill....just for the sacrifice of 25-35 atk..
This is all from mathematics and assumptions...now if anyone is out there willing to try this out practically..tables might turn.. Cuz we still dont knw which gives better atk buff or how the real additional atk is calculated from stats aftr the buff is on!
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Post by Crysta| on Jan 12, 2015 22:17:09 GMT
Here's a tip about battle surcoat. It's "attack power" buff doesn't show up in stats menu under ATK, however it does buff damage to a boss on shield mode (purple aura).
For this reason I'm sticking to B. Coat.
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Post by optimus on Jan 13, 2015 12:05:22 GMT
Here's a tip about battle surcoat. It's "attack power" buff doesn't show up in stats menu under ATK, however it does buff damage to a boss on shield mode (purple aura). For this reason I'm sticking to B. Coat. Another fact is that b.surcoat buff is for 10sec and aldoor is 1min, even though its continues :3 The thing is that...can u test them out and compare the dmg bro? We really need practical proof :/ i cud've be tested them myself...but my str isnt 200 yet  |
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Post by frankerz on Jan 13, 2015 13:34:50 GMT
Here's a tip about battle surcoat. It's "attack power" buff doesn't show up in stats menu under ATK, however it does buff damage to a boss on shield mode (purple aura). For this reason I'm sticking to B. Coat. Another fact is that b.surcoat buff is for 10sec and aldoor is 1min, even though its continues :3 The thing is that...can u test them out and compare the dmg bro? We really need practical proof :/ i cud've be tested them myself...but my str isnt 200 yet against bosses nowadays, melee dmge is better n everyone would agree that b.coat procs is high enough to keep the buff alive forever. so i also vote on b.coat. |
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Post by meow on Jan 19, 2015 12:57:23 GMT
Battle Surcoat is great for party, bishops can give you buffs n damage won't get lower
Aldoor damage depends on HP.If your HP isn't @ 1, Battle surcoat deals way more dmg but if u can get HP at 1, you'll do about 400++ more damage with Aldoor.
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