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Post by kms on Nov 7, 2014 10:48:29 GMT
use cracked mage ore, they drop on the map directly beside drafburg from loco chiros. they give mp regen every 10 secs for 30 mins. ull hardly ever use reml if u use them since ninjas moves are low cost. i also learnt cloning from you tube. surprisiingly not many ninja folks seem to know about "cracked mage ore". i carry a couple of stacks of cracked mage ore (CMO) and salt. i use salt only in boss fights. CMO makes sure that my mp is always full when i am grinding mega / ent / balor / nammor. i have donated a couple of CMO to many ninja's i meet to make sure that everyone spreads the word around. CMO regenerates MP based on your INT. if you have a fortune of INT then it generates about 45 per 8 seconds for me (i have 1 int). on a non-INT fortune day - it generates 37 per 8 seconds. Ninjams - lvl 214
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raf
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Post by raf on Nov 7, 2014 19:43:19 GMT
use cracked mage ore, they drop on the map directly beside drafburg from loco chiros. they give mp regen every 10 secs for 30 mins. ull hardly ever use reml if u use them since ninjas moves are low cost. ^this, ty so much for this, i edited and included in the guide, this really boosts the potential of ninja by a lot, and also will change the party design by a bit i think, like when i go megas and see "lfp ninja" i send them an invite so to farm faster, but they usually leave after a kill or two cuz most of them are looking for a highwiz or enchanter for mp refuel and i cant do tht for them. if most ninja could self manage their mp then we have a lot of new party combinations coming up, cuz i believe a ninja can be a useful addition to any party regardless of its 'solo' title, as the 2k+dmg+doublehit autoattack is beneficial to any party even if they dont want a wild dance spam as some people dont like that, and this dmg is just from a low lvl no xtal ninja (mine xD) not to mention tanking capabilities on most bosses.
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Post by Jeancarlo on Nov 7, 2014 19:50:38 GMT
use cracked mage ore, they drop on the map directly beside drafburg from loco chiros. they give mp regen every 10 secs for 30 mins. ull hardly ever use reml if u use them since ninjas moves are low cost. ^this, ty so much for this, i edited and included in the guide, this really boosts the potential of ninja by a lot, and also will change the party design by a bit i think, like when i go megas and see "lfp ninja" i send them an invite so to farm faster, but they usually leave after a kill or two cuz most of them are looking for a highwiz or enchanter for mp refuel and i cant do tht for them. if most ninja could self manage their mp then we have a lot of new party combinations coming up, cuz i believe a ninja can be a useful addition to any party regardless of its 'solo' title, as the 2k+dmg+doublehit autoattack is beneficial to any party even if they dont want a wild dance spam as some people dont like that, and this dmg is just from a low lvl no xtal ninja (mine xD) not to mention tanking capabilities on most bosses. FYI, CMO is not enough to cover MP Needs when in a decently functioning PT since you tend to use DoC more often (even assuming no -skill delays) even if you are not cloning as much. Other wise, you Have to limit your DoC which means you're limiting your DMG, just to save MP.
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Post by raf on Nov 7, 2014 19:52:14 GMT
Heey nice bro keep up the good work the word really does need to be spread around a lot, there is so much that ninja folk dont know about, the most common example being: me: do you have 9 clones? le random ninja: no me: but why? le random ninja: because i dont have 3 ganei ............. and thats not just with the new ninjas, ive a friend who couldnt make 9 clones at lvl 245...she figured it out sure, but, when i think about it, thats 145 levels spent without using the full potential of ninja.
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Post by raf on Nov 7, 2014 20:02:50 GMT
^this, ty so much for this, i edited and included in the guide, this really boosts the potential of ninja by a lot, and also will change the party design by a bit i think, like when i go megas and see "lfp ninja" i send them an invite so to farm faster, but they usually leave after a kill or two cuz most of them are looking for a highwiz or enchanter for mp refuel and i cant do tht for them. if most ninja could self manage their mp then we have a lot of new party combinations coming up, cuz i believe a ninja can be a useful addition to any party regardless of its 'solo' title, as the 2k+dmg+doublehit autoattack is beneficial to any party even if they dont want a wild dance spam as some people dont like that, and this dmg is just from a low lvl no xtal ninja (mine xD) not to mention tanking capabilities on most bosses. FYI, CMO is not enough to cover MP Needs when in a decently functioning PT since you tend to use DoC more often (even assuming no -skill delays) even if you are not cloning as much. Other wise, you Have to limit your DoC which means you're limiting your DMG, just to save MP. Indeed this is true, in a fast pt, or even when constantly using doc 9-7 clones when soloing mega, the mp bars runs out way too fast for anything but hwiz mp heal or reml or salt to keep up with that, however cracked magic ore will still be very useful in the following ways: 1. You will always have mp when you are tanking in a party, as desperate move requires..umm 24mp? (not sure, forgot xD) 2. When fighting bosses in a party, and bosses (e.g plazuda, magonza) unleash the wipe mp debuff. those are all i can think of right now in a party, when doing solo and when you dont doc too much, CMO is as good as it gets.
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Post by Jeancarlo on Nov 7, 2014 20:12:43 GMT
FYI, CMO is not enough to cover MP Needs when in a decently functioning PT since you tend to use DoC more often (even assuming no -skill delays) even if you are not cloning as much. Other wise, you Have to limit your DoC which means you're limiting your DMG, just to save MP. Indeed this is true, in a fast pt, or even when constantly using doc 9-7 clones when soloing mega, the mp bars runs out way too fast for anything but hwiz mp heal or reml or salt to keep up with that, however cracked magic ore will still be very useful in the following ways: 1. You will always have mp when you are tanking in a party, as desperate move requires..umm 24mp? (not sure, forgot xD) 2. When fighting bosses in a party, and bosses (e.g plazuda, magonza) unleash the wipe mp debuff. those are all i can think of right now in a party, when doing solo and when you dont doc too much, CMO is as good as it gets. Sorry, was only referring to your Megas comment. I use CMO and never run out of MP, unless in Mega PT going all out (even if tanking). Like I said, CMO helps but won't be enouhg unless you actually Limit yourself, which means your PT suffers.
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Post by super n00b on Nov 7, 2014 20:14:40 GMT
I learned about ninja cloning from a YouTube vid.. o.o Just wanted to check out some stuff before I actually changed to ninja class...Even then, when I saw the video(s), I didn't actually change to a ninja until i was 140+ish.. Sure, I did watch plenty of vids but I didn't really know what to do until i tried and tested it out myself.. I can say for sure that I'm an awesome soloer, lol.. (Well, that's just my opinion..)
I'm only level 189, because I'm too lazy to be bothered to level fast like everyone else.., and I always make clones, even if just 3 at that, when I log on even if I don't stay on long or even if it's just to sit in Rokoko market.. I do this because I will forget (sometimes..) when going into boss fights..
Honestly, I consume a lot of MP pots while soloing because I DoC a lot and sometimes the boss has an effect where your HP and MP is cut in half (but once it's low enough, they can't cut anymore of your HP&MP.) So, to overcome this, once I defeat a boss, I sit down and switch out my atleta with a Rustling Leaf Earring NS.. It recovers my MP pretty quickly while I sit for a few seconds.. (I have about 2k+ mp..) Anyways, the Rustling Leaf Earring stats is MP Recovery+50% and HP Recovery-??%.. I don't worry about the HP since I don't need it. o.o
Another thing about me as a ninja is that I hoard Salt/ RemL.. I place them all on my alts.. (Yes, I have many storage alts..) I think I have about 10+ stacks on my storage alt and about 1 left (as of 11.7.2014) on my ninja so I need to re-stock soon.. And I'll most likely be buying/ farming about 5+ stacks with my wizard so I can save MP pots.. I'm not really bothered by spamming RemL/ Salt because I can always farm more for me.. (Since I can use 2 acc's at once for more efficient self-farming..)
Also, I don't even have 3 ganeis... I use only 2 ganeis.. My current gear as a ninja is Koda2+8 Ganei, Schwartz Up+8 Ganei, Ghost Ring+7 Blue Ogre.. I haven't switched out my blue ogre because I like it for the fact that it adds some additional MP..
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Post by raf on Nov 11, 2014 17:34:42 GMT
Indeed this is true, in a fast pt, or even when constantly using doc 9-7 clones when soloing mega, the mp bars runs out way too fast for anything but hwiz mp heal or reml or salt to keep up with that, however cracked magic ore will still be very useful in the following ways: 1. You will always have mp when you are tanking in a party, as desperate move requires..umm 24mp? (not sure, forgot xD) 2. When fighting bosses in a party, and bosses (e.g plazuda, magonza) unleash the wipe mp debuff. those are all i can think of right now in a party, when doing solo and when you dont doc too much, CMO is as good as it gets. Sorry, was only referring to your Megas comment. I use CMO and never run out of MP, unless in Mega PT going all out (even if tanking). Like I said, CMO helps but won't be enouhg unless you actually Limit yourself, which means your PT suffers. Yes you are right, it seems that for now the only way for ninja to be self mp sufficient is spamming remL, Im constantly looking for methods to attain this but to be honest, and only from the point view of the guide, that i should find better ways to make the new ninja converts more mp efficient, ofcourse thats not a real problem since most ninja have no trouble farming such stuff (but for the guide i wish i could make it easier) but i do feel that remL drops are quite rarer than say, remL drops? When i was farming remL stats i would get a minimum of 70 remL/99 kills, then i did atg and found the drop rate waaay less than that, then later on when i got to naga, 6-7 runs and not even half a stack. I think the fastest drop would be remagic M which restores 100mp, from purges, which are really fast kills, but do you think it would be okay to recommend farming it? Im not sure cuz i cant really farm more of recovery items, 10 stacks treat cookies in storage, still 2 stacks in bag, they just wont finish! And ofcourse since all of you are more experienced and seasoned ninja than me, i'd really appreciate any pointers from all my ninja senpais
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Post by Jeancarlo on Nov 11, 2014 17:40:28 GMT
Salt=RemL @ 300 MP per use.
Easier to farm (Ganei house), or cheaper just to buy from someone else if you can farm spina faster. 40-50K a stack.
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Post by Pichu on Nov 11, 2014 17:42:54 GMT
Sorry, was only referring to your Megas comment. I use CMO and never run out of MP, unless in Mega PT going all out (even if tanking). Like I said, CMO helps but won't be enouhg unless you actually Limit yourself, which means your PT suffers. Yes you are right, it seems that for now the only way for ninja to be self mp sufficient is spamming remL, Im constantly looking for methods to attain this but to be honest, and only from the point view of the guide, that i should find better ways to make the new ninja converts more mp efficient, ofcourse thats not a real problem since most ninja have no trouble farming such stuff (but for the guide i wish i could make it easier) but i do feel that remL drops are quite rarer than say, remL drops? When i was farming remL stats i would get a minimum of 70 remL/99 kills, then i did atg and found the drop rate waaay less than that, then later on when i got to naga, 6-7 runs and not even half a stack. I think the fastest drop would be remagic M which restores 100mp, from purges, which are really fast kills, but do you think it would be okay to recommend farming it? Im not sure cuz i cant really farm more of recovery items, 10 stacks treat cookies in storage, still 2 stacks in bag, they just wont finish! And ofcourse since all of you are more experienced and seasoned ninja than me, i'd really appreciate any pointers from all my ninja senpais Salt heals same mp as remL 300mp.. u can try that if u r not aware of it n its much more easier to farm then remL
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Post by Pichu on Nov 11, 2014 17:47:02 GMT
Amikiri(flyin mobs otw to ganei) n Shiki oni(mobs otw to Sakimori) drops salt^
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Post by raf on Nov 11, 2014 17:48:57 GMT
noobwhat i find really unfair is that all our clones disappear everytime we dc, i mean sometimes its goes, dc-reclone-take 2 steps-dc-hit head on wall, and ofcourse even worse is getting dc in a dungeon full of agro mobs, thats the reason i still have bushin no justsu in my shortcuts lol. Rustling leaf earring is mp recovery +50% and hp recovery -25%, i got a ns drop and im keeping it for the same reasons, whenever ive to stop attacking for some reason i just put it on and sit, you are right its really good for mp recovery. As for cloning, anyone who is comes to see now i would point at the guide "Roxzen" has made for cloning, i found it to be perfect, better than i could explain it, but as you guys know and can tell, im new here and im still not completely familiar with the posting options and stuff and what have you, but i would really love to add to a link to it here, if Roxzen permits it ofcourse, since its the best text descriptive guide of cloning i've found on the internet.
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Post by skene on Nov 11, 2014 17:49:48 GMT
I have about 50 stacks of salt shared between 4 alts... You'll never know, and you should keep them readily available in case you ever run your current equipped inventoried stack out.
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Post by raf on Nov 11, 2014 18:00:58 GMT
Jeancarlo and PichuI see, so it would be a better option than remL, also the price sounds pretty reasonable incase someone doesnt wanna farm, (me being a farm freak will farm that ofcourse ) i wasnt sure how much mp it recovered, oh and thanks so much for adding the locations and mob names too, that helps a lot, i'm definitely adding this to the guide, maybe take off remL completely and focus on salt, because, i might be wrong, but i dont think i've ever seen anyone actually sell remL stacks, and buying from npc would get a bit too costly i suppose, so salt it is. ty again and please let me know anything that you guys think i should add/remove/edit in the guide.
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Post by raf on Nov 11, 2014 18:09:00 GMT
skeneahhh maii gawd! you all set for the whole year lol out of the total 15stacks i farmed at event i still have 12+ left and its been a month! it might be because i have been mq'ing to get to a higher level for farming, than actually farming all that much myself, so the consumption might really shoot up. However im still certain you wont run out of mp anytime this year now thats good preparation.
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