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Post by Illumina on Oct 7, 2014 18:21:10 GMT
Have you tried comparing the damage using magical ring ns and light ring ns? Yup. I was seeing higher dmgs w Magical than light but TBH the fluctuation on dmg was big enough without either that I can't quite say for certain; at least Magical also gives 10% HP (>L199). Are you sure? I remember doing higher damage with light ring. I'll test it again when I get another LR (I sold mine after getting mezza). But if you are correct then Magical ring would be a better choice. I am just thinking that if light ring does give better damage, it's also a good partner for Medic pouch + Cleric robe set and the future upgrade version of empress rod. A slotted bracelet is also nice  |
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Post by Jeancarlo on Oct 7, 2014 18:34:35 GMT
Yup. I was seeing higher dmgs w Magical than light but TBH the fluctuation on dmg was big enough without either that I can't quite say for certain; at least Magical also gives 10% HP (>L199). Are you sure? I remember doing higher damage with light ring. I'll test it again when I get another LR (I sold mine after getting mezza). But if you are correct then Magical ring would be a better choice. I am just thinking that if light ring does give better damage, it's also a good partner for Medic pouch + Cleric robe set and the future upgrade version of empress rod. A slotted bracelet is also nice Pretty sure, though wouldn't mind testing it again (I accidentally sold my Magical ring, lol) now that I'm a little higher in level and with Lichter. Again, the problem is the relatively small boost 5% can really do, lol. Considering we see as much as 10% in dmg fluctuations, it's hard to really "See" 5% more dmg Re: EmpressUP, only if the per level increase in MATK is significant. I also tested this vis a vis R Rod and S Rod, and it did NOT do more dmg on Dark mobs or non-dark mobs. Contrary to what seems to be 'general' knowledge on this, the "Light Element" does Not affect our spells. |
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Post by Illumina on Oct 7, 2014 19:15:08 GMT
Are you sure? I remember doing higher damage with light ring. I'll test it again when I get another LR (I sold mine after getting mezza). But if you are correct then Magical ring would be a better choice. I am just thinking that if light ring does give better damage, it's also a good partner for Medic pouch + Cleric robe set and the future upgrade version of empress rod. A slotted bracelet is also nice Pretty sure, though wouldn't mind testing it again (I accidentally sold my Magical ring, lol) now that I'm a little higher in level and with Lichter. Again, the problem is the relatively small boost 5% can really do, lol. Considering we see as much as 10% in dmg fluctuations, it's hard to really "See" 5% more dmg Re: EmpressUP, only if the per level increase in MATK is significant. I also tested this vis a vis R Rod and S Rod, and it did NOT do more dmg on Dark mobs or non-dark mobs. Contrary to what seems to be 'general' knowledge on this, the "Light Element" does Not affect our spells. I think it does affect our spells. My theory is, since Resty and Solve rods base attacks are higher than Empress rod, those 2 rods will out-damage empress. For now it is an inferior weapon compared to other rods, unless if it's 2s. |
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Post by Jeancarlo on Oct 7, 2014 19:27:38 GMT
Pretty sure, though wouldn't mind testing it again (I accidentally sold my Magical ring, lol) now that I'm a little higher in level and with Lichter. Again, the problem is the relatively small boost 5% can really do, lol. Considering we see as much as 10% in dmg fluctuations, it's hard to really "See" 5% more dmg Re: EmpressUP, only if the per level increase in MATK is significant. I also tested this vis a vis R Rod and S Rod, and it did NOT do more dmg on Dark mobs or non-dark mobs. Contrary to what seems to be 'general' knowledge on this, the "Light Element" does Not affect our spells. I think it does affect our spells. My theory is, since Resty and Solve rods base attacks are higher than Empress rod, those 2 rods will out-damage empress. For now it is an inferior weapon compared to other rods, unless if it's 2s. Numbers wise, the Stat difference between my 153A Empress vs 166 S RodUp or 167 R Rod (going off memory, but the last two are close to bottom dmg while Empress was almost max Atk) would be minimal considering my MATK is at least 2100. That's not even 1%; certainly not large enough to matter? I also tested these on my HW (to see if it made my EQ Light based against nagas, since someone actually posted a while back that Empress CHANGED your spell's elem lol) who has 3K MATK and also did not see any change. P.S. For what it's worth, I also tested Ice Book, lol to see if it made my water/ice spells do more dmg. It didn't. |
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Post by Illumina on Oct 7, 2014 20:16:42 GMT
Atm, the best special would be a slotted one so you can put a mezzaruna xtal. I think it does affect our spells. My theory is, since Resty and Solve rods base attacks are higher than Empress rod, those 2 rods will out-damage empress. For now it is an inferior weapon compared to other rods, unless if it's 2s. Numbers wise, the Stat difference between my 153A Empress vs 166 S RodUp or 167 R Rod (going off memory, but the last two are close to bottom dmg while Empress was almost max Atk) would be minimal considering my MATK is at least 2100. That's not even 1%; certainly not large enough to matter? I also tested these on my HW (to see if it made my EQ Light based against nagas, since someone actually posted a while back that Empress CHANGED your spell's elem lol) who has 3K MATK and also did not see any change. P.S. For what it's worth, I also tested Ice Book, lol to see if it made my water/ice spells do more dmg. It didn't. Ehem.. ehem.. This is off-topic already but bear with us for a bit. >.< I haven't touched my brother's high wiz for months now but I do remember that ice book does boost water spells. So I tested it awhile ago and compared damage using an icebook with 133 atk and a magic dagger with 140 atk, both not refined and not strengthened. Icebook > ice spear does higher damage compared to m.dagger > ice spear, the difference is not too big. (maybe +500 to 700 more damage). P.S Jeancarlo, can you start another topic about this? haha! xD |
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Post by Jeancarlo on Oct 7, 2014 21:31:47 GMT
You're right, and I apologize lol. Got too intent in the discussion |
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Post by Almas on Oct 7, 2014 23:24:44 GMT
Light Element boosts nemesis damage. I can show screenshot to prove this later. It's the reason why I gave up on other Rod and went to using Light Rod. Although when tanking, no one beats Resty Rod imo.
As for special equipment, I am not sure about Light Ring, but I use Glint Ring now, it boosts Light Element damage and it deals the same damage as Medical Ring/Mezzaluna. But since it's not on the poll, I'd probably go for Magical Ring Slot.
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Post by Jeancarlo on Oct 8, 2014 0:19:35 GMT
Light Element boosts nemesis damage. I can show screenshot to prove this later. It's the reason why I gave up on other Rod and went to using Light Rod. Although when tanking, no one beats Resty Rod imo. As for special equipment, I am not sure about Light Ring, but I use Glint Ring now, it boosts Light Element damage and it deals the same damage as Medical Ring/Mezzaluna. But since it's not on the poll, I'd probably go for Magical Ring Slot. Was just reading on Glint ring; you saying Glint NS > Med/Mezza??? |
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Post by funspeed on Oct 8, 2014 2:07:14 GMT
Spell ring, magical ring, battery, or mermaid earing with hp20% xtal or JOG. It depends on what I'm doing.
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Post by Almas on Oct 8, 2014 4:50:11 GMT
Light Element boosts nemesis damage. I can show screenshot to prove this later. It's the reason why I gave up on other Rod and went to using Light Rod. Although when tanking, no one beats Resty Rod imo. As for special equipment, I am not sure about Light Ring, but I use Glint Ring now, it boosts Light Element damage and it deals the same damage as Medical Ring/Mezzaluna. But since it's not on the poll, I'd probably go for Magical Ring Slot. Was just reading on Glint ring; you saying Glint NS > Med/Mezza??? In terms of nemesis damage. I'll post some screenshot when game is up o.o/ |
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Post by Illumina on Oct 8, 2014 4:52:08 GMT
Light Element boosts nemesis damage. I can show screenshot to prove this later. It's the reason why I gave up on other Rod and went to using Light Rod. Although when tanking, no one beats Resty Rod imo. As for special equipment, I am not sure about Light Ring, but I use Glint Ring now, it boosts Light Element damage and it deals the same damage as Medical Ring/Mezzaluna. But since it's not on the poll, I'd probably go for Magical Ring Slot. Ohhh, what's the exact stat of glint ring? I missed this one. Is it from prod? Jeancarlo, I just got worried, someone might give us some spanking for going off-topic.  |
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Post by Almas on Oct 8, 2014 5:06:12 GMT
Light Element boosts nemesis damage. I can show screenshot to prove this later. It's the reason why I gave up on other Rod and went to using Light Rod. Although when tanking, no one beats Resty Rod imo. As for special equipment, I am not sure about Light Ring, but I use Glint Ring now, it boosts Light Element damage and it deals the same damage as Medical Ring/Mezzaluna. But since it's not on the poll, I'd probably go for Magical Ring Slot. Ohhh, what's the exact stat of glint ring? I missed this one. Is it from prod? Jeancarlo, I just got worried, someone might give us some spanking for going off-topic. I can't recall. It's like light ring. Prolly better. I'll be able to check in 1 hour 55 minutes. o.o/ |
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Post by Jeancarlo on Oct 8, 2014 15:51:09 GMT
Ohhh, what's the exact stat of glint ring? I missed this one. Is it from prod? Jeancarlo, I just got worried, someone might give us some spanking for going off-topic. I can't recall. It's like light ring. Prolly better. I'll be able to check in 1 hour 55 minutes. o.o/ Yea Glint ring is prod (chasing) like L120 lol or what ever is max atm. |
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Post by sir on Oct 8, 2014 23:07:32 GMT
Light Element boosts nemesis damage. I can show screenshot to prove this later. It's the reason why I gave up on other Rod and went to using Light Rod. Although when tanking, no one beats Resty Rod imo. As for special equipment, I am not sure about Light Ring, but I use Glint Ring now, it boosts Light Element damage and it deals the same damage as Medical Ring/Mezzaluna. But since it's not on the poll, I'd probably go for Magical Ring Slot. Glint ring ns may have same damg then med ring/mezza and maybe more.. but it doesn't out heal it lol xD I had to put this to make me feel better and not think buying med ring slot was fo nothing xD haha plus its the truth. Med ring/mezza for healing is FTW! Lol Atm my max heal is around 13,300-13,500. (14,900-15,200 on pally) Working on heal abilitys atm to gain more heal xD P.s resty rod ftw! xD |
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Post by Jeancarlo on Oct 8, 2014 23:16:39 GMT
ROFL Duke And yes, Resty Rod FTW |
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