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Post by ManaKhe on Feb 12, 2014 7:14:40 GMT
So there are 3 different classifications of AOEs(area of effects) on the JP wiki: Range Attack, Ambient Attack, and PT Range Attack as translated by google translate.
Range Attack: This is the one most people are familiar with. Earthquake and Meteor(High Wizard) are this type of AOE. It hits up to 3 enemies near you solo/when no party member is attacking or for at most 2 of every party members targets. Gladiator and Snipers get one at level 220. Maximum of 3 targets.
Ambient Attack: The only skill that is like this is Guardian(Paladin). It just hits up to 3 enemies near the Paladin.
PT Range Attack: There are 2 skills like this: Geobreaker(Monk) and Blizzard(High Wizard). When solo/when no one is attacking anything, these hit up to 3 enemies you or your party members are currently targeting. These aren't nearly as much of an AOE as the others for the most part. A LOT of classes get these. Minstrel should get one fairly soon. Maximum of 3 targets.
Ok let me know if there are any other weird mechanics to these(mainly PT range attacks).
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Feb 12, 2014 8:36:26 GMT
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Post by vietgz on Feb 12, 2014 8:36:26 GMT
Iono but my hw w blizzard only attack one target . Not aoe for sure!
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Post by ManaKhe on Feb 12, 2014 15:57:01 GMT
Iono but my hw w blizzard only attack one target . Not aoe for sure! I've had a couple Hwiz confirm that it can indeed hit more than one target. If you are trying to use it like other Hwiz AOEs than thats why you are only hitting one target. Anything it hits has to already be targeted, meaning it would be red on the minimap. Also if you are in a party and target the same thing your party members are targeting you will only hit that one target.
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blackmoon
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Post by blackmoon on Sept 29, 2014 11:03:42 GMT
PT Range Attack:There are 2 skills like this: Geobreaker(Monk) and Blizzard(High Wizard). When solo/when no one is attacking anything, these hit up to 3 enemies you are already targetting(says this on JP wiki but if someone could confirm that would be nice) or it can hit at most 1 of each party members targets. These aren't nearly as much of an AOE as the others for the most part. A LOT of classes get these. Minstrel should get one fairly soon. Ok let me know if there are any other weird mechanics to these(mainly PT range attacks). HW eartquake & meteor storm Pt n Range n Area too
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Post by blackmoon on Sept 29, 2014 11:10:25 GMT
Monk's geo is still confusing me. they said geo was a Pt Range attack, but i can't "send" my geo far a way to targeted mobs while my pt member hit them. not like a blizzard/ earthquake/ meteor storm.
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Post by ManaKhe on Sept 29, 2014 18:10:58 GMT
Monk's geo is still confusing me. they said geo was a Pt Range attack, but i can't "send" my geo far a way to targeted mobs while my pt member hit them. not like a blizzard/ earthquake/ meteor storm. It has a short range. Probably close to Nemesis range if I had to guess. Reply to your first comment: Meteor and Earthquake are Ranged Attacks which share the same features as both Ambient and PT Range Attacks. I would personally prefer if they were both Ambient attacks with a lot of range though since killing low HP mobs with an Hwiz in the party is incredibly annoying lol.
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Post by quitted on Oct 30, 2015 10:53:48 GMT
lets say im in party with high wizard and that high wizard currently targeted by monster A and I currently targeted by monster B and monster C. if that high wizard cast blizzard on his/her monster A, it will hit all the monsters; A,B,C or only monster A and B?
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Oct 30, 2015 11:07:16 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2015 11:07:16 GMT
Sword Tempest is a PT range skill as well but works like the following. Scenario 1: PT hits the mob-B that is far away from me (became red dot in minimap) Me: Sword Tempest mob-A beside me, from any distance my tempest will hit mob A/B. Scenario 2: PT was hit by Mob-B's agression (PT didnt backfired to Mob-B's agression) (meaning it didnt became red dot) character wont fight back when you are running Me: Sword Tempest Mob-A, mob B wont be hit. Maybe blizzard like this as well? quitted
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Post by Lysith on Oct 30, 2015 11:25:16 GMT
As far as I'm aware, Blizzard will hit any mob that is being targeted by anyone in your pt. But, in many AoE pt's, where a Bishop or another Hwiz is in one spot, Hwiz in the other, it will target the closest 3 to the caster - as long as they are agro'd.
EQ's pretty awkward.. A Pally can spam Guardian on a mob, Hwiz's EQ can hit that mob with EQ if their EQ does not hit 3 mobs - from any range. Seems like a cross between a Range AoE and a PT Based AoE.
This may not be true, or may not have happened to anyone else - but it happens to me a lot o.o
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Post by quitted on Oct 30, 2015 12:52:17 GMT
lets say im in party with high wizard and that high wizard currently targeted by monster A and I currently targeted by monster B and monster C. if that high wizard cast blizzard on his/her monster A, it will hit all the monsters; A,B,C or only monster A and B? i ask that because ManaKhe wrote "or it can hit at most 1 of each party members targets" on PT Range Attack description. so i wonder in my scenario example above, blizzard can hit only 1 of 2 my monster B&C that targeting me?
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Oct 30, 2015 13:10:37 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2015 13:10:37 GMT
lets say im in party with high wizard and that high wizard currently targeted by monster A and I currently targeted by monster B and monster C. if that high wizard cast blizzard on his/her monster A, it will hit all the monsters; A,B,C or only monster A and B? i ask that because ManaKhe wrote "or it can hit at most 1 of each party members targets" on PT Range Attack description. so i wonder in my scenario example above, blizzard can hit only 1 of 2 my monster B&C that targeting me? Sorry, seems I misread your post. Given on the scenario you gave, most likely what will happen Monster A/B/C will be hit as long as they are targeted already. If blizzard can hit 3 mobs at a time.
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Post by Variz on Oct 30, 2015 13:55:42 GMT
when lastest Anniversary event at raid, many HW can hit 3 Bosses (the Caftanian, Ginami, and the Coagulum friends :3) that sooo far from the HW who cast the spells
Is this a bug? Or it included to Range AoE?
They are Confusing me :3
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Post by ManaKhe on Oct 30, 2015 15:10:23 GMT
lets say im in party with high wizard and that high wizard currently targeted by monster A and I currently targeted by monster B and monster C. if that high wizard cast blizzard on his/her monster A, it will hit all the monsters; A,B,C or only monster A and B? i ask that because ManaKhe wrote "or it can hit at most 1 of each party members targets" on PT Range Attack description. so i wonder in my scenario example above, blizzard can hit only 1 of 2 my monster B&C that targeting me? Yeah I was wrong about that haha. This what done a long long time ago xD. I need to change it.
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Post by asteg on Oct 30, 2015 15:23:36 GMT
Beast knight's tyrant edge is pt aoe(like earthquake)
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Post by quitted on Oct 30, 2015 16:11:55 GMT
hmm, idk. whatever what kind of blizzard aoe is, but what i know sure is unlike blizzard, sword tempest damage on single target is ridiculously small - less than 10k, even hardhit 3 do higher damage. i could understand why asobimo make tempest damage is magnified when hit more monsters, maybe to encourage gladiator to tank but gap the between single target and maximum target damage is ridiculously big almost 700% in size grr
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