aroxis
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Post by aroxis on Aug 21, 2014 3:13:10 GMT
I was wondering if this build could work a ministrel that uses lots of autoskills to fight? Heres what i was thinking.... Max int (For magic power from autoskill xtals) Agi 180+ (This will be its main mode of survial, no drain or stone skin unlike enchanters) Dex 50+ (dex is purely optional but i reccomend at least 50 because items that add crit rate will be of good use all the time) Rest into Vit ( this is also optional because you could make good use of life song and always be buffed with this and pour all of ur stats into dex) I was thinking it would use an eqqipment setup like this.. Pramia/Xtals : Dunkelis, beezltor( personally reccomend this one for accuracy boost) , isu ( gerust is a big NO NO cuz of ministrel buffs) With a powerful auto skill ability and also gives a good steady crit rate+30 so that will help out alot with accuracy it also gives matk+5% which is a nice added bonus, I am guessing with max int and about 100 dex and no matk xtals this will do about 6k dmg on high ents which isnt too bad xD with wisdom song it should be about 7.5k+ WEAPON
Sword amulet/Xtals : Iffrit, Beezltor, dunkelis Since the ministrel has such high agi it migh make use of this high agi+magic amp+wisdom song would give magic power over the roof. Ultimi/Xtals : Iffrit Ahh the ultimate ultimi, the most ultimate armor alliteration xD Matk+6% is always nice owo but what i am really looking for is that accuracy+50 which is always a good addition seeing how this build might have low dex or high dex completely dependant on what you choose. The crit rate+10 also helps too xD Dpr/ Xtals : Iffirt Seeing how this ministrel is purely autoskill based, you might wanna use this....i still think ultitmi is better tho..but both of them have their own benefits Aulis gale/Xtals Iffrit, Dunkelis Ha now you see, ministrel still might not survive very well with just 180+ agi so if you slap this baby on you will never have a problem killing a mob again And Crit rate+20 *.* It basically doubles your evasion so you should be having 600+ evasion at any given time Viola/Iffrit,dunkelis Ah raw power (Matk+9%....*Q*) is always nice...and on the occasion that you do get hit, the enemy gets a nasty counter atk from you dealing 10k+ dmg yaayy Note : I only reccomend this for dps purposes only, doing this on solo might not help much Note : I would reccomend having 2 iffirt xtals and 1 magic atk xtals (if using pramia) If using a staff, use 3 iffirt xtals and one mezza
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2014 23:00:59 GMT
i come here for free cookies x.x
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Sept 3, 2014 23:14:17 GMT
Seriously, where are the cookies and are they free?
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Post by Almas on Sept 4, 2014 2:15:25 GMT
Came for the cookies too~
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aroxis
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Post by aroxis on Sept 4, 2014 3:37:46 GMT
qwq what abt my idea? q^q no1 appreciates my ideas........at least they like my cookies (._.")a
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2014 8:20:23 GMT
its good, its good.. now free cookies plox
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Post by viperess on Sept 7, 2014 5:16:48 GMT
I was wondering if this build could work a ministrel that uses lots of autoskills to fight? Heres what i was thinking.... Max int (For magic power from autoskill xtals) Agi 180+ (This will be its main mode of survial, no drain or stone skin unlike enchanters) Dex 50+ (dex is purely optional but i reccomend at least 50 because items that add crit rate will be of good use all the time) Rest into Vit ( this is also optional because you could make good use of life song and always be buffed with this and pour all of ur stats into dex) I was thinking it would use an eqqipment setup like this.. Pramia/Xtals : Dunkelis, beezltor( personally reccomend this one for accuracy boost) , isu ( gerust is a big NO NO cuz of ministrel buffs) With a powerful auto skill ability and also gives a good steady crit rate+30 so that will help out alot with accuracy it also gives matk+5% which is a nice added bonus, I am guessing with max int and about 100 dex and no matk xtals this will do about 6k dmg on high ents which isnt too bad xD with wisdom song it should be about 7.5k+ WEAPON
Sword amulet/Xtals : Iffrit, Beezltor, dunkelis Since the ministrel has such high agi it migh make use of this high agi+magic amp+wisdom song would give magic power over the roof. Ultimi/Xtals : Iffrit Ahh the ultimate ultimi, the most ultimate armor alliteration xD Matk+6% is always nice owo but what i am really looking for is that accuracy+50 which is always a good addition seeing how this build might have low dex or high dex completely dependant on what you choose. The crit rate+10 also helps too xD Dpr/ Xtals : Iffirt Seeing how this ministrel is purely autoskill based, you might wanna use this....i still think ultitmi is better tho..but both of them have their own benefits Aulis gale/Xtals Iffrit, Dunkelis Ha now you see, ministrel still might not survive very well with just 180+ agi so if you slap this baby on you will never have a problem killing a mob again And Crit rate+20 *.* It basically doubles your evasion so you should be having 600+ evasion at any given time Viola/Iffrit,dunkelis Ah raw power (Matk+9%....*Q*) is always nice...and on the occasion that you do get hit, the enemy gets a nasty counter atk from you dealing 10k+ dmg yaayy Note : I only reccomend this for dps purposes only, doing this on solo might not help much Note : I would reccomend having 2 iffirt xtals and 1 magic atk xtals (if using pramia) If using a staff, use 3 iffirt xtals and one mezza
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Post by viperess on Sept 7, 2014 5:31:52 GMT
I hv a lvl150 ministrel, agi dex crt, after giving up on bow ninja,more of boredom. Did some research on what wud seem e ideal stats for minister based on their skills. I plan to reset her stats today, and now, after reading or idea on dps-magic-ministrel, I'm more than certain on my decision. I am gonna build her according to ur ideas n suggestions. Will keep u updated on how it goes. Keep us posted on more of ur ideas. A very much appreciated follower
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aroxis
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Post by aroxis on Sept 14, 2014 22:36:49 GMT
I hv a lvl150 ministrel, agi dex crt, after giving up on bow ninja,more of boredom. Did some research on what wud seem e ideal stats for minister based on their skills. I plan to reset her stats today, and now, after reading or idea on dps-magic-ministrel, I'm more than certain on my decision. I am gonna build her according to ur ideas n suggestions. Will keep u updated on how it goes. Keep us posted on more of ur ideas. A very much appreciated follower Happy to hear that you are using my build ^^ I noticed this build has a slight problem with healing so I am going to add leather coat/veltria to items
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2014 1:08:31 GMT
i still havent got ma cookies
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Post by ManaKhe on Sept 18, 2014 7:30:26 GMT
Late reply about this but...Can't Minstrels cap ASPD with little or no AGI by using Passionate Song? I understand AGI could help with survivability but honestly unless its maxed and/or you have EVA equips you won't be dodging hardly any high level content. Minimizing AGI to raise VIT would help way more for survivability in the long run.
Also Enchanters will still be waay better at doing autoskills than you(like at least twice as good, unless you are partying with them) and they already have the lowest DPS typically out of DPS classes(it's pretty close to Claw NInjas/Monks though). I think going for a Max INT is still a good idea, however I think using Throwing Weapons would provide a lot more DPS and you will be farther away from the boss. INT CRT VIT/STR/DEX would be the build. You would focus on ATK and CRT DMG.
Most of the time you won't really be doing any real DPS compared to other party members since you make everyone else do way more damage. Like you doing about 10k DPS won't look like much when you probably have 2 people hitting 30k+ per second. I can tell you that on most bosses you will actually be doing 1 damage with autoskills if you choose to go that route.
Also the randomness of autoskills is annoying. If you have an Enchanter in the party with you to buff you would do alright.
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Post by Pixie on Mar 28, 2015 4:47:43 GMT
I think the idea isn't to out class anyone, but to be able to be self sufficient in level. I haven't tested ifrit, but I have seen a minstrel using that at mega's, aside from them being highly speed hacked, I have a feeling it would work. He was also using claws probably because of agi and crt bonus... Agi is helpful to max aspd so you don't have to waste a song on passionate song it only increases base damage and attack speed. Although it is helpful, you really need nostalgia for crt dmg and/or wisdom for matk/ and either joy and sorrow hp&mp recover (revival) and/or warrior song for evasion and status defect resistance to max damage and survivability. I am curious as to if you have an update on this and if ifrit xtals are going to be worth 120m XD I'm currently testing auto-skill/counter minstrel and I autoskill almost every hit with dielta II, ciel up and dmail I don't have any matk xtals in since I've been going broke buying them for bishop XD but at current if all of my matk works I do about 10-11k dmg (sadly more than my enchanter would do X) and about 2-3k weapon dmg. I would use CRT instead of dex, dex seems kind of moot for minstrels since songs instant cast and the cool down is really not affected enough to notice a difference. Plus CRT will allow you to use dragon newt song in a pt making you more versatile. Just a side note, wouldn't ifit overwrite all your other autoskills? Thats my understanding of those things. I'm not rich enough to test
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Post by Capicuo on Mar 28, 2015 8:47:49 GMT
I think the idea isn't to out class anyone, but to be able to be self sufficient in level. I haven't tested ifrit, but I have seen a minstrel using that at mega's, aside from them being highly speed hacked, I have a feeling it would work. He was also using claws probably because of agi and crt bonus... Agi is helpful to max aspd so you don't have to waste a song on passionate song it only increases base damage and attack speed. Although it is helpful, you really need nostalgia for crt dmg and/or wisdom for matk/ and either joy and sorrow hp&mp recover (revival) and/or warrior song for evasion and status defect resistance to max damage and survivability. I am curious as to if you have an update on this and if ifrit xtals are going to be worth 120m XD I'm currently testing auto-skill/counter minstrel and I autoskill almost every hit with dielta II, ciel up and dmail I don't have any matk xtals in since I've been going broke buying them for bishop XD but at current if all of my matk works I do about 10-11k dmg (sadly more than my enchanter would do X) and about 2-3k weapon dmg. I would use CRT instead of dex, dex seems kind of moot for minstrels since songs instant cast and the cool down is really not affected enough to notice a difference. Plus CRT will allow you to use dragon newt song in a pt making you more versatile. Just a side note, wouldn't ifit overwrite all your other autoskills? Thats my understanding of those things. I'm not rich enough to test Yup, Ifrit consumes autoskill. Btw the new Dim sword IV has a good autoskill with constant 8-10k dmg (at least in my enchanter) as lon as u have 1500+ matk ^.^
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Post by Pixie on Mar 29, 2015 19:53:03 GMT
I think the idea isn't to out class anyone, but to be able to be self sufficient in level. I haven't tested ifrit, but I have seen a minstrel using that at mega's, aside from them being highly speed hacked, I have a feeling it would work. He was also using claws probably because of agi and crt bonus... Agi is helpful to max aspd so you don't have to waste a song on passionate song it only increases base damage and attack speed. Although it is helpful, you really need nostalgia for crt dmg and/or wisdom for matk/ and either joy and sorrow hp&mp recover (revival) and/or warrior song for evasion and status defect resistance to max damage and survivability. I am curious as to if you have an update on this and if ifrit xtals are going to be worth 120m XD I'm currently testing auto-skill/counter minstrel and I autoskill almost every hit with dielta II, ciel up and dmail I don't have any matk xtals in since I've been going broke buying them for bishop XD but at current if all of my matk works I do about 10-11k dmg (sadly more than my enchanter would do X) and about 2-3k weapon dmg. I would use CRT instead of dex, dex seems kind of moot for minstrels since songs instant cast and the cool down is really not affected enough to notice a difference. Plus CRT will allow you to use dragon newt song in a pt making you more versatile. Just a side note, wouldn't ifit overwrite all your other autoskills? Thats my understanding of those things. I'm not rich enough to test Yup, Ifrit consumes autoskill. Btw the new Dim sword IV has a good autoskill with constant 8-10k dmg (at least in my enchanter) as lon as u have 1500+ matk ^.^ that's pretty impressive, what is the autoskill?
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Post by Capicuo on Mar 29, 2015 22:52:20 GMT
Yup, Ifrit consumes autoskill. Btw the new Dim sword IV has a good autoskill with constant 8-10k dmg (at least in my enchanter) as lon as u have 1500+ matk ^.^ that's pretty impressive, what is the autoskill? The animation is like thor hammer but purple. Seems like an improved dark blast
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