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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Jul 22, 2014 6:27:48 GMT
Pillar blade damage is 2.25x your single crit damage. True or False? Or is there a more complex formula for this?
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Post by Ardent Sakuro on Jul 22, 2014 12:25:58 GMT
i think it is as it is 2.5x dunno, the enemy's def might be factor as well. not sure lol.
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Jul 22, 2014 14:44:57 GMT
i think it is as it is 2.5x dunno, the enemy's def might be factor as well. not sure lol. I have It at 2.25x. Whats your single crit dmg and your pillar at the same mob?
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Post by Ardent Sakuro on Jul 23, 2014 1:24:32 GMT
i think it is as it is 2.5x dunno, the enemy's def might be factor as well. not sure lol. I have It at 2.25x. Whats your single crit dmg and your pillar at the same mob? lets say megaroche, i hit with 11k-12k using indra then pillar with 28kish.
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Jul 23, 2014 1:35:02 GMT
I have It at 2.25x. Whats your single crit dmg and your pillar at the same mob? lets say megaroche, i hit with 11k-12k using indra then pillar with 28kish. 11k - 12k with 2.5x is 27.5k to 30k 11k - 12k with 2.25x is 24.75k to 27k So it's more likely that it is 2.25x and you are hitting a little above 12k because 2.5x will mean you hit over 30k.
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Post by Ardent Sakuro on Jul 23, 2014 3:35:29 GMT
lets say megaroche, i hit with 11k-12k using indra then pillar with 28kish. 11k - 12k with 2.5x is 27.5k to 30k 11k - 12k with 2.25x is 24.75k to 27k So it's more likely that it is 2.25x and you are hitting a little above 12k because 2.5x will mean you hit over 30k. heres something more accurate.
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Jul 23, 2014 3:40:41 GMT
11k - 12k with 2.5x is 27.5k to 30k 11k - 12k with 2.25x is 24.75k to 27k So it's more likely that it is 2.25x and you are hitting a little above 12k because 2.5x will mean you hit over 30k. heres something more accurate. Oh good. Thanks for the data. What gear you have on? BTW, I have different results which is why I have it different.
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Post by Ardent Sakuro on Jul 23, 2014 5:44:55 GMT
heres something more accurate. Oh good. Thanks for the data. What gear you have on? BTW, I have different results which is why I have it different. indra sturm exe up magonza separation arrows cerberus knight gauntlet beelzenoid i dont know how how this would change other than enemy def.
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Jul 23, 2014 5:54:30 GMT
Oh good. Thanks for the data. What gear you have on? BTW, I have different results which is why I have it different. indra sturm exe up magonza separation arrows cerberus knight gauntlet beelzenoid i dont know how how this would change other than enemy def. I have a hunch that crt dmg or elemental might be computed differently than just straight off single crit x (2.25 or 2.5). Anyway, I'll investigate further. thanks.
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Jul 24, 2014 3:14:49 GMT
Oh good. Thanks for the data. What gear you have on? BTW, I have different results which is why I have it different. indra sturm exe up magonza separation arrows cerberus knight gauntlet beelzenoid i dont know how how this would change other than enemy def. so far I've tried switching gears from no xtals (just currones) - 2.25x separation arrows cerberus shirito minenaga - 2.25x (to check if +crit damage affects it) ATK - 2.25x (to check if atk affects it) with or without buffs - 2.25x (to check if buffs affects it) Which singles out that the extra 20% (or so) multiplier might be due to element bonus, unless you have a 220 skill that changes result. Can you test with normal sword?
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Post by Ardent Sakuro on Jul 24, 2014 3:28:17 GMT
indra sturm exe up magonza separation arrows cerberus knight gauntlet beelzenoid i dont know how how this would change other than enemy def. so far I've tried switching gears from no xtals (just currones) - 2.25x separation arrows cerberus shirito minenaga - 2.25x (to check if +crit damage affects it) ATK - 2.25x (to check if atk affects it) with or without buffs - 2.25x (to check if buffs affects it) Which singles out that the extra 20% (or so) multiplier might be due to element bonus, unless you have a 220 skill that changes result. Can you test with normal sword? Normal swords, you mean str based swords? Btw what type of sword are you using on that output?
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Jul 24, 2014 3:40:29 GMT
so far I've tried switching gears from no xtals (just currones) - 2.25x separation arrows cerberus shirito minenaga - 2.25x (to check if +crit damage affects it) ATK - 2.25x (to check if atk affects it) with or without buffs - 2.25x (to check if buffs affects it) Which singles out that the extra 20% (or so) multiplier might be due to element bonus, unless you have a 220 skill that changes result. Can you test with normal sword? Normal swords, you mean str based swords? Btw what type of sword are you using on that output? Normal non-element sword I meant. I used a Bloody Scythe for Currones and a Red Tengu (no up) Plazuda for the test versus Cerberus boss. It changes DEF in mid fight but I don't see any change either. BTW, your indra 1s or 2s?
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Post by Ardent Sakuro on Jul 24, 2014 3:46:03 GMT
Normal swords, you mean str based swords? Btw what type of sword are you using on that output? Normal non-element sword I meant. I used a Bloody Scythe for Currones and a Red Tengu (no up) Plazuda for the test versus Cerberus boss. It changes DEF in mid fight but I don't see any change either. Here's mine Sauro blade Plate armor Onigawara Jar of greed lol All xtals are hp+20% xD Made sure there are no atk+ or crt damage+ on equipment xD
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Jul 24, 2014 4:29:28 GMT
Normal non-element sword I meant. I used a Bloody Scythe for Currones and a Red Tengu (no up) Plazuda for the test versus Cerberus boss. It changes DEF in mid fight but I don't see any change either. Here's mine Sauro blade Plate armor Onigawara Jar of greed lol All xtals are hp+20% xD Made sure there are no atk+ or crt damage+ on equipment xD Ok so it's not element. I need to scratch my head again.
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Post by Ardent Sakuro on Jul 24, 2014 5:01:45 GMT
Normal swords, you mean str based swords? Btw what type of sword are you using on that output? Normal non-element sword I meant. I used a Bloody Scythe for Currones and a Red Tengu (no up) Plazuda for the test versus Cerberus boss. It changes DEF in mid fight but I don't see any change either. BTW, your indra 1s or 2s? Indra is 1slot
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