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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2014 15:22:51 GMT
-1s is not the cap. but total skill delay of 1s is the cap. how do i test? i have violakrile (-1.2s), exelis up(-1s), barbarotita(-0.5s) & wisdom ring(-0.5). total reduction is 3.2s. 1) mana recharge is very quick. with this equip above, my mana recharge is the same as without it. 2) stoneskin is among the quickest skill in iruna and with above equip, its still the same as without it. 3) with these equipments on, all my buff is the same speed. from the slow enchant weapon buff to the instant stoneskin. all done in 1s delay time. note that all those skills mentioned has no cast time. only skill delay. if you notice colon tree xstal also describe that penalty of skill delay is 1s. nothing can go beyond. i actually posted a vid long ago regarding skill delay to show how all buff works the same with max skill delay which is 1s. just let me know if you need to witness that. And if that were true all ur skill delay eqqips would be trash since max dex gives u -1 sec delay... i dont intend to use it for my buffs. its for mana burn.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2014 15:24:11 GMT
-1s is not the cap. but total skill delay of 1s is the cap. how do i test? i have violakrile (-1.2s), exelis up(-1s), barbarotita(-0.5s) & wisdom ring(-0.5). total reduction is 3.2s. 1) mana recharge is very quick. with this equip above, my mana recharge is the same as without it. 2) stoneskin is among the quickest skill in iruna and with above equip, its still the same as without it. 3) with these equipments on, all my buff is the same speed. from the slow enchant weapon buff to the instant stoneskin. all done in 1s delay time. note that all those skills mentioned has no cast time. only skill delay. if you notice colon tree xstal also describe that penalty of skill delay is 1s. nothing can go beyond. i actually posted a vid long ago regarding skill delay to show how all buff works the same with max skill delay which is 1s. just let me know if you need to witness that. Imma hafta go against that...skill delay can go past -1sec lmao. he uses Cacdeus+9/beeztor Ex up+8/shojo Merc+8/fg And when i decide to change cac to ice book up my heal cooldown gets very fast. So idk about -1 sec max Thats just u o.o i hope you are true and can prove that. because i do want my delay to be really quick and if you can prove it may go under 1s, i will definitely use your exact equip.
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Post by aroxis on Jul 10, 2014 15:29:04 GMT
Imma hafta go against that...skill delay can go past -1sec lmao. he uses Cacdeus+9/beeztor Ex up+8/shojo Merc+8/fg And when i decide to change cac to ice book up my heal cooldown gets very fast. So idk about -1 sec max Thats just u o.o i hope you are true and can prove that. because i do want my delay to be really quick and if you can prove it may go under 1s, i will definitely use your exact equip. Bleh i cant atm..but if u have near max dex, your heal speed will be the same with skill delay modifiers as it is without ya?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2014 15:33:14 GMT
i hope you are true and can prove that. because i do want my delay to be really quick and if you can prove it may go under 1s, i will definitely use your exact equip. Bleh i cant atm..but if u have near max dex, your heal speed will be the same with skill delay modifiers as it is without ya? i just posted magic blade image on general discussion section. his dex is 301. all his skill delay is 1s. heal, mp recharge, magic blade, stoneskin. explain.
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Post by Att1tude on Jul 10, 2014 15:40:31 GMT
Could it be only with enchanter. Via Tapatalk, try it
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Post by aroxis on Jul 10, 2014 15:47:10 GMT
Bleh i cant atm..but if u have near max dex, your heal speed will be the same with skill delay modifiers as it is without ya? i just posted magic blade image on general discussion section. his dex is 301. all his skill delay is 1s. heal, mp recharge, magic blade, stoneskin. explain. Maybe some skills have skill delay cap....? Not heal tho..ive seen u do heal spam it is not one second between them. There is a reason most hw use skill delay gear..because it goes past -1 sec other wise exe up is useless with max dex ya? and other skill delay stuff is nonfunctional. Do u even need skill delay gear? since cooldown doesn't drop below -1 sec....
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Post by Almas on Jul 10, 2014 15:53:34 GMT
Yes each and every skill has different skill delay. So your skill delay gears might not work on one certain skill but it will still affect other skills. Like on bishop side, our buff has long delay.. Example Divine Bless, Resurrection, Revelation.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2014 15:58:54 GMT
i just posted magic blade image on general discussion section. his dex is 301. all his skill delay is 1s. heal, mp recharge, magic blade, stoneskin. explain. Maybe some skills have skill delay cap....? Not heal tho..ive seen u do heal spam it is not one second between them. There is a reason most hw use skill delay gear..because it goes past -1 sec other wise exe up is useless with max dex ya? and other skill delay stuff is nonfunctional. Do u even need skill delay gear? since cooldown doesn't drop below -1 sec.... who told you that ridiculous 256 dex always means cap cooldown? all skill has the same delay. yes my heal is 1s. instead of what you see which is in estimation form, use a timer. i use exelis for a reason and i'm a lvl 233. i dont cap my dex yet and not planning to add any point till skill comes out. please dont completely forget your origin. use your ice spear. did your ice spear cap delay? no? imagine higher level magic. earthquake perhaps. okay just show me a skill that is lower than 1s. i'm not arguing. i'v tested and even provide a vid and since its not helping, lets take it to the lab. if you missed it, go to Alfa's hw guide. he mentioned some skill requires dex 410 to cap delay.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2014 16:03:36 GMT
guys i'm pretty sick of explaining. lets just show me a legitimate vid without hack that show a total skill delay can go under 1s shall we? like max dex paly with full cooldown gear, bishop with full cooldown gear. show me 1 before explaining any further.
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Post by aroxis on Jul 10, 2014 16:05:16 GMT
Maybe some skills have skill delay cap....? Not heal tho..ive seen u do heal spam it is not one second between them. There is a reason most hw use skill delay gear..because it goes past -1 sec other wise exe up is useless with max dex ya? and other skill delay stuff is nonfunctional. Do u even need skill delay gear? since cooldown doesn't drop below -1 sec.... who told you that ridiculous 256 dex always means cap cooldown? all skill has the same delay. yes my heal is 1s. instead of what you see which is in estimation form, use a timer. i use exelis for a reason and i'm a lvl 233. i dont cap my dex yet and not planning to add any point till skill comes out. please dont completely forget your origin. use your ice spear. did your ice spear cap delay? no? imagine higher level magic. earthquake perhaps. okay just show me a skill that is lower than 1s. i'm not arguing. i'v tested and even provide a vid and since its not helping, lets take it to the lab. if you missed it, go to Alfa's hw guide. he mentioned some skill requires dex 410 to cap delay. Maybe i misunderstood u but all i said was max dex = -1 sec delay and u said -1 sec is maximum u can but all im saying is that cooldown can go past -1 sec delay...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2014 16:10:40 GMT
Speed delay bar of skill after use until toward the left skill delay - can be reduced by using equipment ○ seconds, Christa, the ability attack skills of some, support skills can shorten by shaking the specific status of DEX, etc. ※ It should not be less than one second can be shortened much Almasaroxis (that's it. my info wont help much so i rather not help anymore) Att1tudeits even provided in wiki. if i'm wrong then wiki must have made a mistake too. prove us wrong. in case i'm lying about above info this is a link.
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Post by aroxis on Jul 10, 2014 16:37:36 GMT
Speed delay bar of skill after use until toward the left skill delay - can be reduced by using equipment ○ seconds, Christa, the ability attack skills of some, support skills can shorten by shaking the specific status of DEX, etc. ※ It should not be less than one second can be shortened much Almasaroxis (that's it. my info wont help much so i rather not help anymore) Att1tudeits even provided in wiki. if i'm wrong then wiki must have made a mistake too. prove us wrong. in case i'm lying about above info this is a link.Hey i gotta hw and every last hw in iruna will agree with me that this is wrong. Are the creators of jp wiki the creators of iruna? No so theres bound to be flaws kk? Now a question for u is : Why did you urself use viokrile and barboritta in your skill delay vid if exelis was aaaaaaallllllll u needed to reach the "cap skill delay" that u think is only 1 second. Why did u need another -1.7 sec which from wat u say makes no differece to ur cooldown at all?? U used em because IT DID MAKE A DIFFERENCE. Otherwise all u needed was exelis up and u would heal same speed. Why do u think ppl use q.cool? If exelis gave em ALLL the skill delay they needed, q.cool ppl just pay 5m for nothing? Why do ppl use the s.rod+exe+merc setup?? Why? BECAUSE SKILL DELAY GOES PAST -ONE SECOND otherwise AALLL hw would use resty! BUT they don't..why?? cuz cooldown goes past one second..e_e
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Post by aroxis on Jul 10, 2014 16:40:24 GMT
Speed delay bar of skill after use until toward the left skill delay - can be reduced by using equipment ○ seconds, Christa, the ability attack skills of some, support skills can shorten by shaking the specific status of DEX, etc. ※ It should not be less than one second can be shortened much Almasaroxis (that's it. my info wont help much so i rather not help anymore) Att1tudeits even provided in wiki. if i'm wrong then wiki must have made a mistake too. prove us wrong. in case i'm lying about above info this is a link.If u want ill make a poll and see who is right..
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2014 16:53:04 GMT
Speed delay bar of skill after use until toward the left skill delay - can be reduced by using equipment ○ seconds, Christa, the ability attack skills of some, support skills can shorten by shaking the specific status of DEX, etc. ※ It should not be less than one second can be shortened much Almasaroxis (that's it. my info wont help much so i rather not help anymore) Att1tudeits even provided in wiki. if i'm wrong then wiki must have made a mistake too. prove us wrong. in case i'm lying about above info this is a link.If u want ill make a poll and see who is right.. did poll show you in visual that you are right? solid prove.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2014 16:55:17 GMT
Speed delay bar of skill after use until toward the left skill delay - can be reduced by using equipment ○ seconds, Christa, the ability attack skills of some, support skills can shorten by shaking the specific status of DEX, etc. ※ It should not be less than one second can be shortened much Almasaroxis (that's it. my info wont help much so i rather not help anymore) Att1tudeits even provided in wiki. if i'm wrong then wiki must have made a mistake too. prove us wrong. in case i'm lying about above info this is a link.sorry had to delete your point because you dont understand me at all. man. you dont understand at all. do you even read my info?
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