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Post by Done~with~forums on Sept 27, 2020 3:51:02 GMT
I'm a lvl 398 monk with high dps and can solo but I get lonely so I wana pt but the only ppl that will pt me are guild/ppl i pt before .... I even made a group chat and someone told me to go geo build....
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Post by Undyne on Sept 27, 2020 4:04:20 GMT
I'm a lvl 398 monk with high dps and can solo but I get lonely so I wana pt but the only ppl that will pt me are guild/ppl i pt before .... I even made a group chat and someone told me to go geo build.... Geo is AoE, and English players don't understand the concept of Dps really. They see one big number and think "Op" but when they see 5 smaller numbers that realistically does more dmg, they think it's weaker.
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Pixie
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Post by Pixie on Sept 27, 2020 4:24:20 GMT
I mean if u can 1 hit 3i or kill before they can cast, then ur just power leveling everyone 😝
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Post by Done~with~forums on Sept 27, 2020 4:30:41 GMT
I mean if u can 1 hit 3i or kill before they can cast, then ur just power leveling everyone 😝 I legit do this lol
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robocosan
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people started using hololive names ingame because of me. im tired of iruna, quitting.
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Post by robocosan on Sept 27, 2020 5:56:57 GMT
I'm a lvl 398 monk with high dps and can solo but I get lonely so I wana pt but the only ppl that will pt me are guild/ppl i pt before .... I even made a group chat and someone told me to go geo build.... Geo is AoE, and English players don't understand the concept of Dps really. They see one big number and think "Op" but when they see 5 smaller numbers that realistically does more dmg, they think it's weaker. what a sad reality it is.
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Post by GeoSmasher on Sept 27, 2020 6:37:49 GMT
The strong point of Geo is with huge dmg blow, Pure Geo user can nuke bosses before they start any dangerous actions, with that Geo party can skip debuff or rage phase easily. For example an OP Geo can 1 hit GK with 4m dmg from 50% HP, skipped buff delete and stun + blind phase In actually test vs Auto, only Element Veleno (4x Veleno) user with same number of slots build have same dps as Pure Geo user with Sirius Edge + Element Barbar With that, Pure Geo is easier to achieve high dps build than Auto, because Auto must build 4x Veleno + Element claw to match dps of Pure Geo
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Post by Done~with~forums on Sept 27, 2020 7:27:03 GMT
The strong point of Geo is with huge dmg blow, Pure Geo user can nuke bosses before they start any dangerous actions, with that Geo party can skip debuff or rage phase easily. For example an OP Geo can 1 hit GK with 4m dmg from 50% HP, skipped buff delete and stun + blind phase In actually test vs Auto, only Element Veleno (4x Veleno) user with same number of slots build have same dps as Pure Geo user with Sirius Edge + Element Barbar With that, Pure Geo is easier to achieve high dps build than Auto, because Auto must build 4x Veleno + Element claw to match dps of Pure Geo errr i can do 1.2m dps solo
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Post by GeoSmasher on Sept 27, 2020 7:53:44 GMT
The strong point of Geo is with huge dmg blow, Pure Geo user can nuke bosses before they start any dangerous actions, with that Geo party can skip debuff or rage phase easily. For example an OP Geo can 1 hit GK with 4m dmg from 50% HP, skipped buff delete and stun + blind phase In actually test vs Auto, only Element Veleno (4x Veleno) user with same number of slots build have same dps as Pure Geo user with Sirius Edge + Element Barbar With that, Pure Geo is easier to achieve high dps build than Auto, because Auto must build 4x Veleno + Element claw to match dps of Pure Geo errr i can do 1.2m dps solo Seem like you have 8 slots total (full 2s), comparing to 8s Pure Geo, with freeze on luna, they can do 1.5m+ dps Pure Geo naturally have more dps and most common auto monk build (3 Veleno + 1 Drain HP auto). Like I said, to match dps power of Pure Geo, Auto monk must use Element Veleno build. I.e against Neutral with this full 2s set is equal dps of full 2s Sirius Edge Pure Geo: Snead Claw III Veleno Sauro II Ira Veleno Aldi Breezy Scarf Veleno Thothras CGB Veleno Telon And most party choose Geo because Pure Geo is party job, they are suck at solo Auto can solo and don't like to join party much Another benefit of Geo is it always crit on Frozen/Stun even you are in Blind
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Post by Done~with~forums on Sept 27, 2020 8:29:55 GMT
In a pt I don't use drain Ice burn Venom prison Breezy Wild ring
Nor do I change my elemt thanks to wild and sll/lll al and in a pt with a servant alone it adds 300k alone from aura+ any buffs from mins/Ench/pally/glad/sin/summoner/necro etc etc i don't constantly need a class to freeze the boss for me letting me pt freely
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Post by Done~with~forums on Sept 27, 2020 8:34:29 GMT
errr i can do 1.2m dps solo Seem like you have 8 slots total (full 2s), comparing to 8s Pure Geo, with freeze on luna, they can do 1.5m+ dps Pure Geo naturally have more dps and most common auto monk build (3 Veleno + 1 Drain HP auto). Like I said, to match dps power of Pure Geo, Auto monk must use Element Veleno build. I.e against Neutral with this full 2s set is equal dps of full 2s Sirius Edge Pure Geo: Snead Claw III Veleno Sauro II Ira Veleno Aldi Breezy Scarf Veleno Thothras CGB Veleno Telon And most party choose Geo because Pure Geo is party job, they are suck at solo Auto can solo and don't like to join party much Another benefit of Geo is it always crit on Frozen/Stun even you are in Blind no one here is saying geo is lackluster and pt makes kills faster (and less lonely)
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Post by GeoSmasher on Sept 27, 2020 11:14:01 GMT
It's the answer why most people like to invite Geo over Auto in their party - Grinding Lv: Geo can AoE, noone want single target job in PTA unless they are bonus job - Boss farm: Geo party faster kill. And skipped many disadvantage phases that happen at certain HP
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Post by nani on Sept 27, 2020 13:00:53 GMT
The simplest answer I can think of is, in the time an auto user kills 1 mob, geo user kills 3. This is assuming both users are in a pt.
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Post by godofafro on Sept 27, 2020 13:15:54 GMT
Why don't you try making another monk just for party play? Since we have 7 max slots, you could have a solo, a pt, a farmer, a prod, a and and to fiddle around with A focus on one char isn't necessarily a weakness, but it's a good step to expand your repertoire, so you can fit into any scenario as you wish. Like I recall you already have a servant, gladi, sniper right? You probably know about this concept more than I do at this point p/n: use the <340 exp event to your advantage
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Post by ShaDH04 on Sept 27, 2020 15:02:01 GMT
It's similar to PF Ninja vs. Magic Ninja. The reason Magic Ninja is played more is because it has more consistency then a PF Ninja. A PF Ninja has to deal with the possibility of doing less dmg than usual, while Magic Ninja never has that issue (except with rare occasions of Tenchi doing lower dmg than usual that I've read when Drags tested it's formula I think). But despite all of that, PF Ninja is still playable and viable. Its the same for Geo Monk vs. Auto Monk. Even if Geo Monk does more dmg, that doesnt mean Auto Monk is trash. It's all preference at the end of the day. The only thing people will tell a new player to play is a popular class/build anyway, instead of what they'd actually enjoy.
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Post by Undyne on Sept 27, 2020 15:53:05 GMT
The strong point of Geo is with huge dmg blow, Pure Geo user can nuke bosses before they start any dangerous actions, with that Geo party can skip debuff or rage phase easily. For example an OP Geo can 1 hit GK with 4m dmg from 50% HP, skipped buff delete and stun + blind phase In actually test vs Auto, only Element Veleno (4x Veleno) user with same number of slots build have same dps as Pure Geo user with Sirius Edge + Element Barbar With that, Pure Geo is easier to achieve high dps build than Auto, because Auto must build 4x Veleno + Element claw to match dps of Pure Geo Issue with this is, ive seen 8 slot Auto monks hit 4m dps as well lol... Geo and Auto have almost exactly the same dps when geared properly. It's just a matter of bigger number makes people think it's stronger. So you see more people making/using them. Main advantage of Geo imo is AoE for leveling, Auto is better for bosses(again, if properly geared) since they aren't reliant on Freeze, and their dps is much more stable since they already have ridiculous amounts of Auto% for Shellbreak proc. And no, he wasn't full Veleno with element claws. Was using Sheep Shear+3 Velenos. Auto Strength>Melee%
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