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Post by otiu on Mar 12, 2020 5:26:57 GMT
ench is annoying to pt with, cause they are all bastards who have no hate rise-%.[ As a TANK you must keep the aggro to your self and never give it to other pt member that not a TANK. If you're a TANK and the dps always stole the aggro of boss, you're playing it wrong. As a TANK its required to have a HATE +% SET to make sure the aggro wont stole it to you. Dont Blame the Enchanter because they dont have HATE RISE -% instead Get Hate rise+% item like: Add ☆Provoke Ability to all your gears And Here some item/crysta that has a hate rise+ ◆Provoke [Crystas] Lets you use Provoke ◇Kaphar [Crystas] Hate rise +30% ▲Gauchel [AlCrystas] Hate rise +25% Hate Rise +25% Force Helm (Strengthened 2) ATK: 33 DEF: 3 ATK+5%, Critical damage +13% Hate rise +10%, Melee&Magic R +10% CRT Wolf Pup Chapeau [Additional] DEF: 28 DEX+15 MaxHP&MaxMP+15% Melee&Magic R +10%, Hate rise +10% monk is.. low dps. even lower if nobody can freeze the boss. even with an alch tank, freezing cannot be their priority (priority is 0 cast-time skills to build hate, a few killer stick spams for bigger hate, applying rain for hate-generating ticks, and then freezing). there are people who think monk is high dps. but those ppl are wrong. Also Monk isnt low dps they can deal high dmg more if shell break without freeze and freeze only works for GEO Skill.
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Post by Loftyz47 on Mar 12, 2020 13:26:35 GMT
As a TANK you must keep the aggro to your self and never give it to other pt member that not a TANK. If you're a TANK and the dps always stole the aggro of boss, you're playing it wrong. As a TANK its required to have a HATE +% SET to make sure the aggro wont stole it to you. Also Monk isnt low dps they can deal high dmg more if shell break without freeze and freeze only works for GEO Skill. Provoke xtal takes an xtal slot, and is worse than Killer Stick. Hate Rise+100% is the cap, and that's what I have. Ench still take aggro. I ask what their sword abi is, and two of them say "none". I'm taking about my experiences tanking s450 as an alch (which realistically, shouldn't be possible). The reality is that there are usually no tanks farming s450. So I do it with Alch, which is far from perfect & also requires a Servant, but could consistently get <2:15 kills. When I do it, I have certain expectations to ensure i'm fulfilling my responsibilities to the pt members. That includes guiding & advising pt members on how they can perform better. Aza was one of the aforementioned "bastards", but he got better & improved his set. A pally tank will have much lower expectations of themselves & the pt members, because they have much more survivability (even with 1s), & hold aggro much easier. As for Monk, I can only talk from personal experience that they were mediocre (compared to full 2s ench/sniper/sin). More than happy to be proven otherwise by a full 2s Monk.
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Post by Rain on Mar 12, 2020 14:04:07 GMT
As a TANK you must keep the aggro to your self and never give it to other pt member that not a TANK. If you're a TANK and the dps always stole the aggro of boss, you're playing it wrong. As a TANK its required to have a HATE +% SET to make sure the aggro wont stole it to you. Also Monk isnt low dps they can deal high dmg more if shell break without freeze and freeze only works for GEO Skill. Provoke xtal takes an xtal slot, and is worse than Killer Stick. Hate Rise+100% is the cap, and that's what I have. Wait, Hate rise is capped at 100% where did you get that?
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Post by Loftyz47 on Mar 12, 2020 14:43:35 GMT
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Post by wafu on Mar 12, 2020 23:12:04 GMT
for a soloer like me that dont want to be so reliant on pt and for low lvl/newbie summoner is the best for grinding yea only in grinding solo, aso needs to change how leadership works to be acceptable in pt i hope future skill can make it (● ˃̶͈̀ロ˂̶͈́)੭ꠥ⁾⁾
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Post by Rain on Mar 13, 2020 2:01:17 GMT
Oh. Now I can change that 2 kaphar on my Crystal hammer
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Post by doubled on Apr 5, 2020 16:44:09 GMT
if u want to do s450, pick Sniper or Sin. Guaranteed pt invite. these are just my opinions as a tank; sniper is the highest dps potential class, but requires some crazy gear & yellow candy bag sin is low hate job, and 1 button dps rotation. impossible to screw it up. ench is annoying to pt with, cause they are all bastards who have no hate rise-%. monk is.. low dps. even lower if nobody can freeze the boss. even with an alch tank, freezing cannot be their priority (priority is 0 cast-time skills to build hate, a few killer stick spams for bigger hate, applying rain for hate-generating ticks, and then freezing). there are people who think monk is high dps. but those ppl are wrong. has your opinion about monk changed then? since i saw u were doing a quick s450 run with geo monk even you went from not prioriitizing freeze to top priority
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Post by Loftyz47 on Apr 5, 2020 21:19:21 GMT
yea, a monk talked big, so i took him, & he changed my mind. press button every second, deal 2.5m, geo op. I do have to play a bit differently, but it's well worth it. it's similar to classic WoW, in that dps just have to hit high numbers, & the solution to every problem is "tanks do sht".
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Post by Ryan Cataclysm Ender on Dec 20, 2022 17:19:23 GMT
My opinion
(In terms of actual damage per second)
1. Gladiator 2. Samurai 3. Sniper 4. Summoner 5. Enchanter
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Post by nocturne on Feb 5, 2024 6:39:01 GMT
4 years later, Monk is still #1
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