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Post by Mr................... on Feb 21, 2020 4:13:44 GMT
1st Set Ceduro - Veleno Ira - Veleno Oni hachi - Veleno 2s Spec - Veleno/Telon ////// or /////// Ssf - Telon
2nd Ceduro - Veleno Ira - Veleno Breezy Scarf - Veleno 2s Spec - Veleno/Telon ////// or /////// Ssf - Telon
3rd Ceduro - Veleno Venom Prison - ?? Oni hachi - Veleno 2s Spec - Veleno/Telon ////// or /////// Ssf - Telon
4th Ceduro - Veleno Venom Prison - ?? Breezy Scarf - Veleno 2s Spec - Veleno/Telon ////// or /////// Ssf - Telon
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Post by x2nd on Feb 21, 2020 6:12:31 GMT
1st Set Ceduro - Veleno Ira - Veleno Oni hachi - Veleno 2s Spec - Veleno/Telon ////// or /////// Ssf - Telon 2nd Ceduro - Veleno Ira - Veleno Breezy Scarf - Veleno 2s Spec - Veleno/Telon ////// or /////// Ssf - Telon 3rd Ceduro - Veleno Venom Prison - ?? Oni hachi - Veleno 2s Spec - Veleno/Telon ////// or /////// Ssf - Telon 4th Ceduro - Veleno Venom Prison - ?? Breezy Scarf - Veleno 2s Spec - Veleno/Telon ////// or /////// Ssf - Telon 1 n 2 need 3 additional effort on usage. 3 switch equip (power/autoheal/autopoison) or 2 switch n poison dango 3 n 4 need 2 additional effort on usage. 2 switch equip (power/autoheal) Ceduro poison dmg 25% not increasing veleno dmg. T power source of ceduro is autoskill n atk up by lvl n crit up I prefer easier set that require less effort to use but still hv nice power. Total slot count also nice for power Dclaw best autoheal n extra bonus power eva hp Venom prison free auto poison n add atk Breezy best raw power even surpass ceduro raw power Sbs simply coz 2slot bring more power than 1slot for most cases. Ceduro II [Claws] 📷 ATK: 277 Magic R -10%, DEX+8 Autoskill+12% ATK up based on Lv. Poison dmg +25% Critical up, Ailment R +10% Magic R -10% DEX +8 Autoskill +12% Poison dmg +25% Critical rate +10 Critical damage +10% Ailment R +10% [ X = 0.75 * Lv] [ATK up by X] If [DEX > 256] then Poison +10% Autoskill Notes: ATK = Ceduro +30? Breezy Scarf [Additional] ATK: 5 DEF: 10 ATK+8%, Melee&Magic R+5% Skill delay -1sec Critical up, ATK up by AGI ATK +8% Skill Delay -1.0s Melee R +5% Magic R +5% Critical rate +10 Critical damage +10% [X = 0.75 * AGI] [ATK up by X]
If same multiplier 0,75 then up by stat is stronger than up by lvl
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Post by Mr................... on Feb 21, 2020 8:39:11 GMT
Ty x2nd but would breezy scarf extra dmg outweighs the extra auto skill rate of oni hachi? and does venom prison with atk xtal beat ira veleno? sorry for many question im just starting to get to iruna after months of rest of playing
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Post by x2nd on Feb 21, 2020 9:00:59 GMT
Ty x2nd but would breezy scarf extra dmg outweighs the extra auto skill rate of oni hachi? and does venom prison with atk xtal beat ira veleno? sorry for many question im just starting to get to iruna after months of rest of playing If hv high agi i think breezy won. But if low agi i think oni won. As for venom prison n ira this link below might help irunaonline.boards.net/thread/31253/venom-prison-velenoNw. Rest playing abit is good
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Post by doubled on Feb 21, 2020 9:59:40 GMT
1st Set Ceduro - Veleno Ira - Veleno Oni hachi - Veleno 2s Spec - Veleno/Telon ////// or /////// Ssf - Telon 2nd Ceduro - Veleno Ira - Veleno Breezy Scarf - Veleno 2s Spec - Veleno/Telon ////// or /////// Ssf - Telon 3rd Ceduro - Veleno Venom Prison - ?? Oni hachi - Veleno 2s Spec - Veleno/Telon ////// or /////// Ssf - Telon 4th Ceduro - Veleno Venom Prison - ?? Breezy Scarf - Veleno 2s Spec - Veleno/Telon ////// or /////// Ssf - Telon 1.Venom prison vs ira veleno is a tradeoff between not having to switch gear in the cost of a weaker autoskill(Vneom prison autoskill is weaker than veleno). I personally have infinite posion dango stock so i use ira. 2.Breezy scarf should hit harder 3.Ur going to need at least 1 hp drain autoskill so its actually d.claw+sbs vs ceduro vs ssf telon. if u can afford ssf telon it should be better since it allows to use more variety of claws without losing the ability to suck HP. I dont have ssf slot so im stuck with using d.claw
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Post by Aza on Feb 21, 2020 10:19:39 GMT
1st Set Ceduro - Veleno Ira - Veleno Oni hachi - Veleno 2s Spec - Veleno/Telon ////// or /////// Ssf - Telon 2nd Ceduro - Veleno Ira - Veleno Breezy Scarf - Veleno 2s Spec - Veleno/Telon ////// or /////// Ssf - Telon 3rd Ceduro - Veleno Venom Prison - ?? Oni hachi - Veleno 2s Spec - Veleno/Telon ////// or /////// Ssf - Telon 4th Ceduro - Veleno Venom Prison - ?? Breezy Scarf - Veleno 2s Spec - Veleno/Telon ////// or /////// Ssf - Telon I happen to test several equip u mentioned above, but it wasn't paired with ceduro2, I paired it with Ice Burn. And it's probably depend on stat and abi, was having 300ish INT 440ish CRT and AGI, full auto abi 54321. The result is Breezy win over Oni, the difference in autoskill doesn't affect much on shellbreak and autoskill rate. Plus, breezy has -1 delay, if u have dualblow it will further increase ur dps, a bit. Disregard this if you already own 2s Oni. Venom prison vs Ira..I like Venom Prison not because its dps potential, but because it is less tap tap. Sometimes I want to do lazy-mode.
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Post by Mr................... on Feb 21, 2020 10:47:06 GMT
x2nd , doubled , Aza ty guys this helps alot
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Post by doubled on Feb 21, 2020 10:51:21 GMT
1st Set Ceduro - Veleno Ira - Veleno Oni hachi - Veleno 2s Spec - Veleno/Telon ////// or /////// Ssf - Telon 2nd Ceduro - Veleno Ira - Veleno Breezy Scarf - Veleno 2s Spec - Veleno/Telon ////// or /////// Ssf - Telon 3rd Ceduro - Veleno Venom Prison - ?? Oni hachi - Veleno 2s Spec - Veleno/Telon ////// or /////// Ssf - Telon 4th Ceduro - Veleno Venom Prison - ?? Breezy Scarf - Veleno 2s Spec - Veleno/Telon ////// or /////// Ssf - Telon I happen to test several equip u mentioned above, but it wasn't paired with ceduro2, I paired it with Ice Burn. And it's probably depend on stat and abi, was having 300ish INT 440ish CRT and AGI, full auto abi 54321. The result is Breezy win over Oni, the difference in autoskill doesn't affect much on shellbreak and autoskill rate. Plus, breezy has -1 delay, if u have dualblow it will further increase ur dps, a bit. Disregard this if you already own 2s Oni. Venom prison vs Ira..I like Venom Prison not because its dps potential, but because it is less tap tap. Sometimes I want to do lazy-mode. hi, unrelated to thread but can i ask if do u need int for ice burn to hit hard?
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Post by Aza on Feb 21, 2020 11:11:15 GMT
hi, unrelated to thread but can i ask if do u need int for ice burn to hit hard? Nope. STR build can use it too. I saw a JP player blog he's using Ice Burn with STR build and the autoskill still dealt more than Veleno.
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Post by 'AhSaN' on Feb 23, 2020 13:21:26 GMT
hi, unrelated to thread but can i ask if do u need int for ice burn to hit hard? Nope. STR build can use it too. I saw a JP player blog he's using Ice Burn with STR build and the autoskill still dealt more than Veleno. Hello Do you know how is the proc rate of Ice Burn compared to Veleno? Thinking if I should get an Ice Burn instead of Ceduro-Veleno. Thanks
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Post by Aza on Feb 23, 2020 22:53:38 GMT
Hello Do you know how is the proc rate of Ice Burn compared to Veleno? Thinking if I should get an Ice Burn instead of Ceduro-Veleno. Thanks Hi I personally haven't tested the numbers yet. The JP player have, I can't find his post rn tho on ameblo. It seems it procs as often as Veleno.
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Post by Nobody (Retired for now) on Feb 24, 2020 3:49:57 GMT
I use Ice Burn as my DPS weapon, I have around 420 Agi, 315 Int, 315 Crt and 256 Vit. It does from 8k to 13k higher damage than my Velenos, and for its proc rate is around the same or slighty higher than Veleno, plus it can Spellburst and Shell Break. It is a Magic attack based on physical damage. Its formula is something like Damage + Matk. (IDK TBH) So Int users should be able to use it slighty "better" (Monks have low Matk) I think I posted a image of my Monk using it. irunaonline.boards.net/thread/31198/ice-crush-burn?page=2&scrollTo=254511*What do you think about Reincarnation Shield Up? Reincarnation Shield (Strengthened 1) [Additional] ATK: 12 DEF: 12 VIT+9 MATK+11% Autoskill+12% Critical damage +24%, Evasion-30% Critical damage down by STR VIT +9 MATK +11% Autoskill +12% Critical damage +24% Evasion -30% [X = 0.10 * STR] [X = X · -1] [Critical damage up by X] [Paladin] Parry on Defense +11% [Feb] With proper equipment and stats you could counter pretty well that negative.
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Post by Done~with~forums on Feb 24, 2020 5:01:36 GMT
I just made a monk currently using P hand Sauro ll(auto atk) V prison fiore (auto atk + self poison) Brezzy veleno (atk with agi + auto atk) Sbs veleno fiore (auto atk) Agi Int vit(130-150+) Crt I was semi lagin I have no apos Is this good dmg/dps for monk? Was doing 10k+ autos PS for drain I use Brc Sauro ll it keeps me alive
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Post by x2nd on Feb 24, 2020 5:22:13 GMT
I just made a monk currently using P hand Sauro ll(auto atk) V prison fiore (auto atk + self poison) Brezzy veleno (atk with agi + auto atk) Sbs veleno fiore (auto atk) Agi Int vit(130-150+) Crt I was semi lagin I have no apos Is this good dmg/dps for monk? Was doing 10k+ autos PS for drain I use Brc Sauro ll it keeps me alive Luna hv 0 def so its bad for monk shellbreak. Roughly t dmg multiply by 2 to meet usual dmg. I dont see any autoskill%. Monk need bout 30% autoskill to comfortly proc add atk. Or 20% sometimes also ok. T nice value is 40% autoskill
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Post by Done~with~forums on Feb 24, 2020 5:40:28 GMT
I just made a monk currently using P hand Sauro ll(auto atk) V prison fiore (auto atk + self poison) Brezzy veleno (atk with agi + auto atk) Sbs veleno fiore (auto atk) Agi Int vit(130-150+) Crt I was semi lagin I have no apos Is this good dmg/dps for monk? Was doing 10k+ autos PS for drain I use Brc Sauro ll it keeps me alive Luna hv 0 def so its bad for monk shellbreak. Roughly t dmg multiply by 2 to meet usual dmg. I dont see any autoskill%. Monk need bout 30% autoskill to comfortly proc add atk. Or 20% sometimes also ok. T nice value is 40% autoskill at lest 2 autos proc each hit about 70% of the time my apos will be auto Al thank you for the information
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