Meyzer
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Post by Meyzer on Aug 19, 2019 13:55:36 GMT
Hi, i have noob and poor paladin level 262 xD and i planning to make guardian set but still uncompleted, but i feel something wrong after i compare 2 set to guardian The first set : Genius maxhp20% Boo Duel shield last up Myrica This have 100k hp And second : Nio Boo Monty Myrica This have 60k hp The rumor said guardian set is have quite lot of influence if we add more hp but why?  My first set just give 21k damage, and the second can 27k damage??? Whyyy? Whats wrong with my set? XD I have plan to make my guardian set became Genius maxhp 20% Chainmail last up maxhp 20% maxhp 20% Duel shield last up 20% Sbs douin douin Ahh now i have bad feeling about my plan |
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Jophes
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Post by Jophes on Aug 19, 2019 15:46:53 GMT
Hi, i have noob and poor paladin level 262 xD and i planning to make guardian set but still uncompleted, but i feel something wrong after i compare 2 set to guardian The first set : Genius maxhp20% Boo Duel shield last up Myrica This have 100k hp And second : Nio Boo Monty Myrica This have 60k hp The rumor said guardian set is have quite lot of influence if we add more hp but why? My first set just give 21k damage, and the second can 27k damage??? Whyyy? Whats wrong with my set? XD I have plan to make my guardian set became Genius maxhp 20% Chainmail last up maxhp 20% maxhp 20% Duel shield last up 20% Sbs douin douin Ahh now i have bad feeling about my plan Guardian's dmg is based on current HP and ATK. So naturally, you'd do max dmg at full HP and then less dmg the more HP you lose. So it'd be good to balance between HP and ATK. Building a guardian set geared towards ATK will give you steadier dmg even if you lose a lot of HP. Building it focusing more on HP will mean you would have to constantly keep your HP as close to max as possible (which is doable with the auto-use system for potions). As for your goal set, I would suggest sauro 2 on genius and then myrica ns (slot with douin if you can) because with the current goal set you have in mind, you'd be missing out on a lot of ATK. For the xtals on the chainmail, you could put 2 gashadoro, or gashadoro and iniliba, or 2 iniliba. And instead of duel shield, maybe you could check out knight of honor to see if you like the stats. It'll give you atk, hp, and item delay which will be good for spamming guardian (although the stun time +3 sec will kinda suck). Other than that, I hope you find something that suits your style! |
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Post by NightBreeze on Aug 19, 2019 16:21:44 GMT
Like Jophes said, you need balance between HP and ATK. In this forum I once saw someone's setup and I liked it. It was something like this: - Genius ◇Sauro II. - BOO ◇Iniliba. - Monty ◇Crescent. - Myrica ◇Crescent. And be sure to have some rate cut abilities to counter Myrica's negative. |
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Post by Geødude on Aug 20, 2019 5:24:03 GMT
I've read that Guardian's HP part goes thru barriers or DEF I forgot xD so maybe a full HP set would be better than ATK set in that situation.
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Meyzer
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Post by Meyzer on Aug 20, 2019 14:51:12 GMT
Hoo thankyou for explanation
So maybe i will change my plan to
Fudo sauro ii
Chainmail mr.ori and gashadororo
Monty cresent
Myrica douin
How about it, hahaha i think its the best solution cuz fudo have maxhp and atk, and douin have greatly maxhp +40% O.o
Very great this douin xtall xD
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Post by godofafro on Aug 20, 2019 16:05:54 GMT
So maybe i will change my plan to Chainmail mr.ori and gashadororo Monty cresent You can achieve better efficiency by just rearranging 2 crystals: Chainmail 2x gashadororo Monty mr ori You'll have to note that gasha event ends tomorrow, so you'll have to act quick on this. On the other note, Mr ori is kind of bad for paladin, because of the -heal recovery% and the minor -3% hp. The beginner's "bless" skill that you can use to constantly restore a good chunk of hp is now thwarted a little. Maybe consider ideaus if your build have str in it? Str fits in well for spec sword build too...but...it'll work only when you're higher level and are able to cap 3 stats. I can guess your stats are skewed twds vit dex rn - judging from spec sword and monty usage. Another alternative is that you can go elemental - use 7 Monty's with 7 element +15% xtals on it. |
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Post by Geødude on Aug 20, 2019 19:37:32 GMT
Hoo thankyou for explanation So maybe i will change my plan to Fudo sauro ii Chainmail mr.ori and gashadororo Monty cresent Myrica douin How about it, hahaha i think its the best solution cuz fudo have maxhp and atk, and douin have greatly maxhp +40% O.o Very great this douin xtall xD With that set, you're gonna have to find a way to get at least -0.8sec more sd for Guardian, I think. |
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Post by Jophes on Aug 20, 2019 22:21:10 GMT
Hoo thankyou for explanation So maybe i will change my plan to Fudo sauro ii Chainmail mr.ori and gashadororo Monty cresent Myrica douin How about it, hahaha i think its the best solution cuz fudo have maxhp and atk, and douin have greatly maxhp +40% O.o Very great this douin xtall xD You could also switch the sword to genius sauro ii for more resists to help decrease potion usage and conveniently get rid of the skill delay penalty you currently have to deal with with the current set since guardian needs -0.5 sec to spam. |
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Post by x2nd on Aug 20, 2019 23:04:52 GMT
Hoo thankyou for explanation So maybe i will change my plan to Fudo sauro ii Chainmail mr.ori and gashadororo Monty cresent Myrica douin How about it, hahaha i think its the best solution cuz fudo have maxhp and atk, and douin have greatly maxhp +40% O.o Very great this douin xtall xD You could also switch the sword to genius sauro ii for more resists to help decrease potion usage and conveniently get rid of the skill delay penalty you currently have to deal with with the current set since guardian needs -0.5 sec to spam. Izuminokami II [Swords] ATK: 266 Special Sword, STR+10 ATK+10% Rate cut +5%, Skill delay -1sec Critical rate -5%, MaxHP+15% STR +10 ATK +10% Critical rate -5% MaxHP +15% Rate cut +5% Skill Delay -1.0s [X = 0.20 * Lv] [Melee up by X] Notes: ATK = Izuminokami +86 This might also nice plus sauro2 xtal n nice power n nice delay n nice hp build in |
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Post by Jophes on Aug 21, 2019 15:24:55 GMT
Bastion is also be a good spec sword for guardian spam and was released today too.
Bastion [Swords]
ATK: 280
Special sword, ATK+15% MaxHP+20%, Magic R +10% Skill delay -0.5sec, KO time -1sec
ATK +15% MaxHP +20% Skill Delay -0.5s Magic R +10% Knockout -1.0s
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Post by Meyzer on Aug 22, 2019 17:55:17 GMT
Yeah bastion will be the best sword for pally more than fudo *-* but it released today maybe i will wait till next cap relesed  so not too much expensive lol xD ahahahaha, however genius will still the best for resist and maxhp but maybe i will often use guardian set at mg so i just need find some bish And for out of leveling i already have izuminokami ii :3 hehehe make it yesterday xD ty for advice And maybe i will use ideaus, need trade this mr ori to ideaus later xD hahahaha And myrica slot x.x ahh i must buy it xD but maybe when my lv reach 320 hahahaha still long journey The next maybe will completing set atk for oath *-* and ailment resist, cuz oath very bad and iruna havent release vaccine burn, =.= very tired of burn especially when talking about agira, bernhart, and josh.........and pauk maybe hahahhaa xD pauk really the worst boss for pally |
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Post by NightBreeze on Aug 23, 2019 13:05:38 GMT
Yeah bastion will be the best sword for pally more than fudo *-* How so? It's got the same +20% HP but 8% less ATK than Fudo. |
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Post by Sensho on Nov 17, 2019 18:03:18 GMT
Yeah bastion will be the best sword for pally more than fudo *-* How so? It's got the same +20% HP but 8% less ATK than Fudo. The answer you're looking for is the skill delay that's how it's better, you can use it for oath and guardian without loosing time |
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Post by NightBreeze on Nov 17, 2019 18:05:10 GMT
How so? It's got the same +20% HP but 8% less ATK than Fudo. The answer you're looking for is the skill delay that's how it's better, you can use it for oath and guardian without loosing time For oath SD doesn't matter, for guardian I'd use Genius. |
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Post by Sensho on Nov 17, 2019 18:08:56 GMT
The answer you're looking for is the skill delay that's how it's better, you can use it for oath and guardian without loosing time For oath SD doesn't matter, for guardian I'd use Genius. And yeah I do too buuuut not having to switch is nice tho |
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My first set just give 21k damage, and the second can 27k damage??? Whyyy? Whats wrong with my set? XD
so not too much expensive lol xD ahahahaha, however genius will still the best for resist and maxhp but maybe i will often use guardian set at mg so i just need find some bish 