Just Shu
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Post by Just Shu on Oct 6, 2018 12:24:54 GMT
Hello. Am Shu, a special sword samurai. Am thinking if its possible to have a tank samurai (so people would invite me to party lol cuz I fail as a dps qwq).
I already consulted a friend who has quite the knowledge in the game. I thought of Genius, Deceiver, Sieger Plate and Necklace of Mortification. All with ◇Provoke (autoskill). He said it could work, but I need to deal damage too. They might not take me as their tank if I deal crap damage.
Could anyone who tanked using samurai in a party before help, or tell me if its even possible?
My stats btw: 327 STR, 395 VIT, 256 AGI, 395 DEX
Edit: Might as well tell my story on tanking lol.
I was invited to a guild party of a HWiz, Bishop and Minstrel to tank Veleno (this is after Balance Patch). I tanked the plant pretty well by spamming Grand Majesty but the problem is am not doing damage. If I stop for 2 seconds or so, the hate would immediately go to the others in the party. I also tried just spamming Issen with 230k-ish damage, it just doesnt gain enough hate.
The problem isn't surviving, it's not gaining hate WHILE doing damage.
Equips I tried on: Izu2 ◇Sauro2, Ultimi re up ◇Amatis, BOO ◇Iniliba, Monty ◇Vida, SBS ◇Ganei ◇Ganei,
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♪Sumire
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Summoner new skills pls *-*
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Post by ♪Sumire on Oct 6, 2018 13:37:35 GMT
As a resist type spammer samurai I can take aton hits while also dealing good dmg but as for the real tank property of keeping or taking aggro I find samurai to be lacking on that department any other classes that can easily steal aggro from my samu are bish/mins/hw/ oh wait it's almost every other class that has too much hate rise from their skills alone .. it's hard to recover hate once the others steal it t.t (unless the member who stole aggro decided to sacrifice himself so I can recover aggro while others revive him
If I also remember correctly there was a patch on samurai reducing the skills hate rise
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Post by Liemuel on Oct 6, 2018 13:53:04 GMT
you dont need that set haha its useless for samurai. just focus in your resist..
USE THIS CHANGE TO NORMAL SWORD TO BALANCE EVERYTHING...
SAURO BLADE L5 BELLOW OF ORDER MONTY BERET DODGE RING/HEAVY BOOTS/FORTITUDE RING/SCHOLAR RING/2S SPEC FOR MQ
YOU CAN TANK PROPERLY IN THAT SET WHILE DEALING VERY HIGH DAMAGE!!!
AND ALSO CAN SPAM ISSEN
IN FARMING BOSS IN PARTY MODE TRY TO IN IN BOSS FAST MAKE YOUR SELF FIRST THEN CAST HIT THE BOSS FOLLOW UP THE GRAND MAJESTY.. SO YOU CAN GET THE HATE HAHA GOODLUCK ^^
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Makina Yuki
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Post by Makina Yuki on Oct 6, 2018 16:20:10 GMT
Spec sword samu is perfect for tanking role. Unlike normal sword one, spec sword samu has bigger hp pool which means better defensive stats.
If you want to be tank, I suggest you use: -Genius (sauro ii or iniliba) -Ultimi reup (iniliba) -Monty berret (iniliba or Mr.Oritius) -Specia blessed stone (2 iniliba ) -Abi provoke & rate cut
Please remember that samu has terrible survival kit compared to Warrior branch class & even ench, which means you need more than resist & big hp pool to tanking properly.
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Post by Undyne on Oct 6, 2018 19:58:34 GMT
As a resist type spammer samurai I can take aton hits while also dealing good dmg but as for the real tank property of keeping or taking aggro I find samurai to be lacking on that department any other classes that can easily steal aggro from my samu are bish/mins/hw/ oh wait it's almost every other class that has too much hate rise from their skills alone .. it's hard to recover hate once the others steal it t.t (unless the member who stole aggro decided to sacrifice himself so I can recover aggro while others revive him If I also remember correctly there was a patch on samurai reducing the skills hate rise Adding on to this, you may want to consider a Provoke xtal (made at the Sofya alchemist). It let's you use Provoke Lv1, while it's not as great as Provoke 4 on a pally, it's a ridiculously low MPC skill with some decent range to it with decent hate rise. Could either work it into a tank set, or have a separate equip for when aggro starts to shift. I use it along with a +hate set(no Provoke abis) on my Necro and it works wonderfully.
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Post by ≧▽≦Pipopapo on Oct 7, 2018 1:08:56 GMT
Press mental clarity boom 1 dmg
After the mental clarity expect to recieve tons of dmg
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♪Sumire
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Summoner new skills pls *-*
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Post by ♪Sumire on Oct 7, 2018 1:42:59 GMT
Press mental clarity boom 1 dmg After the mental clarity expect to recieve tons of dmg 4 kinds of death by mental clarity 1. Endured dmg over hp ..effect time out boom dead 2. Endured dmg over hp ... Mp run out .. boom dead 3 .endured dmg over hp ...buff wipe ...boom dead 4. Endured dmg 2x of maxhp .... Boom dead Bonus: Endured dmg over hp ..killed boss ..mental timeout on cutscene ..boom dead and stuck on cutscene xD
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Post by Nobody (Retired for now) on Oct 7, 2018 2:27:08 GMT
What about: Izuminokami II [Swords] ATK: 266 Description: STR +10 ATK +10% MaxHP +15%, Critical rate -5%, Rate cut +5% Skill delay -1 sec, Special Sword Complete: STR +10 ATK +10% Critical rate -5% MaxHP +15% Rate cut +5% Skill Delay -1.0s [X = 0.20 * Lv] [Melee up by X]
Ama no Habakiri IV [Swords] ATK: 322 DEF: 5 Description: Special sword Magic R +10%, Absolute accuracy +25%, CRT +5, Ailment Res +12%, MDEF up by 3x Lv, When you defend at Lv > 139... (At defense, probability reflects damage due to probability * Upper limit damage 9999) Complete: Magic R +10% Absolute Accuracy +25% CRT +5 Ailment R +12% [X = 3.00 * Lv] [MDEF up by X] If [Lv > 140] then Autoskill INT +5
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Just Shu
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Am quitting Iruna now. Or a really long hiatus, idk. Thanks to everyone tho. :)
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Post by Just Shu on Oct 7, 2018 9:59:58 GMT
What about: Izuminokami II [Swords] ATK: 266 Description: STR +10 ATK +10% MaxHP +15%, Critical rate -5%, Rate cut +5% Skill delay -1 sec, Special Sword Complete: STR +10 ATK +10% Critical rate -5% MaxHP +15% Rate cut +5% Skill Delay -1.0s [X = 0.20 * Lv] [Melee up by X] Ama no Habakiri IV [Swords] ATK: 322 DEF: 5 Description: Special sword Magic R +10%, Absolute accuracy +25%, CRT +5, Ailment Res +12%, MDEF up by 3x Lv, When you defend at Lv > 139... (At defense, probability reflects damage due to probability * Upper limit damage 9999) Complete: Magic R +10% Absolute Accuracy +25% CRT +5 Ailment R +12% [X = 3.00 * Lv] [MDEF up by X] If [Lv > 140] then Autoskill INT +5 Am always using Izu2 and I could say that its often not enough.
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Just Shu
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Am quitting Iruna now. Or a really long hiatus, idk. Thanks to everyone tho. :)
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Post by Just Shu on Oct 7, 2018 10:18:01 GMT
Spec sword samu is perfect for tanking role. Unlike normal sword one, spec sword samu has bigger hp pool which means better defensive stats. If you want to be tank, I suggest you use: -Genius (sauro ii or iniliba) -Ultimi reup (iniliba) -Monty berret (iniliba or Mr.Oritius) -Specia blessed stone (2 iniliba ) -Abi provoke & rate cut Please remember that samu has terrible survival kit compared to Warrior branch class & even ench, which means you need more than resist & big hp pool to tanking properly. Thanks. I'll give this a try
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Post by Liemuel on Oct 7, 2018 10:36:59 GMT
true samurai tanker can endure backfire of mental clarity
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Post by Liemuel on Oct 7, 2018 10:45:48 GMT
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Just Shu
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Am quitting Iruna now. Or a really long hiatus, idk. Thanks to everyone tho. :)
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Post by Just Shu on Oct 7, 2018 10:48:11 GMT
true samurai tanker can endure backfire of mental clarity I updated original post. The problem isnt with surviving. Its the hate. ._. Just issen isnt enough. What's the point of your extreme defences when the boss wont even pay attention to you?
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Post by Liemuel on Oct 7, 2018 11:14:03 GMT
go first in boss when you are in then first hit the boss to able to cast grand majesty then if the other steal the hate, its time for you to spam grand majesty until the boss go back to you.. no need to make hate set to be a good tanker. if you want sample go to ouvel server 1 im always there i will show you how to get hate properly
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Post by ≧▽≦Pipopapo on Oct 7, 2018 11:16:10 GMT
true samurai tanker can endure backfire of mental clarity I updated original post. The problem isnt with surviving. Its the hate. ._. Just issen isnt enough. What's the point of your extreme defences when the boss wont even pay attention to you? How about play solo instead of party right?
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