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Post by deus rei desu on Jul 5, 2018 10:19:35 GMT
Hello, 280 minstrel here with 1050~ stats to spare.
Been interested at minstrel's dnewt damage for a while, just wondering if a build using Dex>Agi>Str would work. This will utilize a normal bow for maximum damage but I'm rather confused on how much of a difference of damage can 0 CRT vs 350 CRT do. I haven't yet found a thread explaining CRT's damage formula, only the critical rates for that stat.
Appreciate all the suggestions from any minstrels. Thanks
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2018 11:50:56 GMT
irunaonline.boards.net/thread/10732/unwritten-formulas deus rei desu current formula is there. Base crt damage for normal attacks is +50% your white damage. Every 2 crt adds 1% to that base. In the current formula, crt damage from gears and anywhere else is multiplied to the base crt damage (7×7×7=343). Once balance patch is out, it will simply be added to the base (7×[7+7]=98).
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Post by deus rei desu on Jul 5, 2018 12:21:54 GMT
I guess the DEX AGI STR build won't work well then Thanks for the info.
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Post by Done~with~forums on Jul 5, 2018 13:15:29 GMT
What about throw mins int dex crt vit 100+ agi 100+?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2018 15:34:21 GMT
What about throw mins int dex crt vit 100+ agi 100+? If you're going for exactly 100 points on both vit and agi, you shouldn't lose too much damage, tho I fail to see the point of agi. Also, are you not considering str?
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Post by Done~with~forums on Jul 5, 2018 16:19:31 GMT
What about throw mins int dex crt vit 100+ agi 100+? If you're going for exactly 100 points on both vit and agi, you shouldn't lose too much damage, tho I fail to see the point of agi. Also, are you not considering str? in the 2 years it takes to get bp mins at lvl 100 gets atk interval cut and yea str but last once every thing eles is done
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Post by deus rei desu on Jul 5, 2018 16:20:43 GMT
What about throw mins int dex crt vit 100+ agi 100+? That would require a ton of stats and the overall damage will be lowered by quite a margin. Plus, I think 100 AGI wouldn't suffice for melee bosses later in the mq (they hit like a truck xD)
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Post by Done~with~forums on Jul 5, 2018 16:42:43 GMT
What about throw mins int dex crt vit 100+ agi 100+? That would require a ton of stats and the overall damage will be lowered by quite a margin. Plus, I think 100 AGI wouldn't suffice for melee bosses later in the mq (they hit like a truck xD) its no more then other builds adding blue/red lines etc.... Same amount of stats used just not in lines and the agi is not for evasion it's for aspd so i can use the atk cut(rush/interfike etc) im not going to solo bosses xD mins will become a mini dps once bp is in eng
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2018 17:16:44 GMT
If you're going for exactly 100 points on both vit and agi, you shouldn't lose too much damage, tho I fail to see the point of agi. Also, are you not considering str? in the 2 years it takes to get bp mins at lvl 100 gets atk interval cut and yea str but last once every thing eles is done I personally would instead go for high cycle for aspd to save stat points. Being the hypocrite I am though, I do have a sniper with 85 agi since the class has an attack interval skill that I simply do not want to miss out on. Though I will probably stefly him at some point or another. If I may ask, why throw? And I apologize to op for going off topic.
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Post by Done~with~forums on Jul 5, 2018 17:33:46 GMT
in the 2 years it takes to get bp mins at lvl 100 gets atk interval cut and yea str but last once every thing eles is done I personally would instead go for high cycle for aspd to save stat points. Being the hypocrite I am though, I do have a sniper with 85 agi since the class has an attack interval skill that I simply do not want to miss out on. Though I will probably stefly him at some point or another. If I may ask, why throw? And I apologize to op for going off topic. i will be useing magic scroll re up s
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Post by MagicChi on Jul 6, 2018 17:55:31 GMT
Hello, 280 minstrel here with 1050~ stats to spare. Been interested at minstrel's dnewt damage for a while, just wondering if a build using Dex>Agi>Str would work. This will utilize a normal bow for maximum damage but I'm rather confused on how much of a difference of damage can 0 CRT vs 350 CRT do. I haven't yet found a thread explaining CRT's damage formula, only the critical rates for that stat. Appreciate all the suggestions from any minstrels. Thanks The NightinGals and I think that you don't necessarily need CRT in that type of build. If you have enough crt dmg in your build. Since dnewt doesn't crt at all. We need CRT for the extra crt dmg. Your build will consist of Crt Dmg mainly. It's possible though. But there is a chance your melee dmg will suck. I can see the potential. (Although we haven't tested this, mind that we think only)
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Post by deus rei desu on Jul 7, 2018 11:14:39 GMT
Hello, 280 minstrel here with 1050~ stats to spare. Been interested at minstrel's dnewt damage for a while, just wondering if a build using Dex>Agi>Str would work. This will utilize a normal bow for maximum damage but I'm rather confused on how much of a difference of damage can 0 CRT vs 350 CRT do. I haven't yet found a thread explaining CRT's damage formula, only the critical rates for that stat. Appreciate all the suggestions from any minstrels. Thanks The NightinGals and I think that you don't necessarily need CRT in that type of build. If you have enough crt dmg in your build. Since dnewt doesn't crt at all. We need CRT for the extra crt dmg. Your build will consist of Crt Dmg mainly. It's possible though. But there is a chance your melee dmg will suck. I can see the potential. (Although we haven't tested this, mind that we think only) Oh that's fine since I don't intend to go melee (well, most of the time). The new balance changes that I've heard of mentioned that crit damage from equips will be nerfed. Although I'm not entirely knowledgable on that, I think maaaaybe CRT should be added till 256? And the rest poured into AGI for the extra juicy evasion ( ๑‾̀◡‾́)
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Post by deus rei desu on Jul 7, 2018 11:29:31 GMT
I personally would instead go for high cycle for aspd to save stat points. Being the hypocrite I am though, I do have a sniper with 85 agi since the class has an attack interval skill that I simply do not want to miss out on. Though I will probably stefly him at some point or another. If I may ask, why throw? And I apologize to op for going off topic. i will be useing magic scroll re up s Rather than a magic scroll reup, I think a dai up or a force helm reup would do a better job. We don't really need the magic stats or the cloning autoskill since we're atk based minstrels. It might be viable if you intend to switch to SK later in the game though.
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Post by NightBreeze on Jul 7, 2018 11:34:01 GMT
Don't know if after the balance it'll be the same, but right now CRT is needed for the critical rate to make dragonewt crit.(and obviously for the critical DMG+%) (Dragonewt has 2 versions - critical and non-critical. The critical version is not orange, but it does more dmg.)
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Post by Done~with~forums on Jul 7, 2018 14:18:12 GMT
i will be useing magic scroll re up s Rather than a magic scroll reup, I think a dai up or a force helm reup would do a better job. We don't really need the magic stats or the cloning autoskill since we're atk based minstrels. It might be viable if you intend to switch to SK later in the game though. im fine with my current add but thanks for the advice
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