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Post by ѕαmmу тнє mσηк on Mar 30, 2018 1:52:17 GMT
Seems no one really talks about this and im confused about it say max def with sr is 30 when you go to super refine it will it be quality 0 or quality 5?
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Post by NightBreeze on Mar 30, 2018 15:35:46 GMT
Every gear has a minimum quality - that's q0. When you SuperRefine it, if you succeed, you increase the quality by 1. The limit is ATK+30 (from q0) for weapons and DEF+20 (from q0) for add gears & armors. In production you can do ATK+15, DEF+6. Below is the information from Asobimo when they announced this feature.
- About Super Refinement -
Super Refinement is a new system that exceeds the limit of regular refinement.
You can enhance "ATK of Weapons/DEF of protection equipment such as Armor that are refined to +9" at NPC: "Dyron" in Fort Bailune.
ATK/DEF is referred to as "Quality" in the game.
You can enhance up to +30 for ATK of Weapons, +20 for DEF of Armor.
e.g.)
- Weapon +9 (ATK+0) -> Super Refinement Success -> Weapon +0 (ATK+1)
*You can try Super Refinement again after refining the equipment to +9.
ATK/DEF for each equipment have a limit and you cannot try Super Refinement exceeding the limit.
- Super Refinement is available only at Dyron the Blacksmith in Fort Bailune.
- You can try Super Refinement only for the equipment with +9 refinement value.
- Whether you succeed in Super Refinement or not, the refinement value will return to +0 from +9.
- The equipment will NOT be lost.
Quality can be enhanced with Production!
- A lot of equipment that were unable to be enhanced with Production has become available!
- You can enhance up to ATK+15/DEF+6 from base Quality with Production.
- There is no change in Production.
- Please try Super Refinement when the Quality reached the limit of Production.
*The Quality enhancement with Production is included in the maximum amount of Super Refinement enhancement.
Therefore, ATK+30/DEF+20 are the limits of Quality enhancement done by both Production and Super Refinement.
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Post by ѕαmmу тнє mσηк on Mar 30, 2018 15:53:41 GMT
Every gear has a minimum quality - that's q0. When you SuperRefine it, if you succeed, you increase the quality by 1. The limit is ATK+30 (from q0) for weapons and DEF+20 (from q0) for add gears & armors. In production you can do ATK+15, DEF+6. Below is the information from Asobimo when they announced this feature.
- About Super Refinement -
Super Refinement is a new system that exceeds the limit of regular refinement.
You can enhance "ATK of Weapons/DEF of protection equipment such as Armor that are refined to +9" at NPC: "Dyron" in Fort Bailune.
ATK/DEF is referred to as "Quality" in the game.
You can enhance up to +30 for ATK of Weapons, +20 for DEF of Armor.
e.g.)
- Weapon +9 (ATK+0) -> Super Refinement Success -> Weapon +0 (ATK+1)
*You can try Super Refinement again after refining the equipment to +9.
ATK/DEF for each equipment have a limit and you cannot try Super Refinement exceeding the limit.
- Super Refinement is available only at Dyron the Blacksmith in Fort Bailune.
- You can try Super Refinement only for the equipment with +9 refinement value.
- Whether you succeed in Super Refinement or not, the refinement value will return to +0 from +9.
- The equipment will NOT be lost.
Quality can be enhanced with Production!
- A lot of equipment that were unable to be enhanced with Production has become available!
- You can enhance up to ATK+15/DEF+6 from base Quality with Production.
- There is no change in Production.
- Please try Super Refinement when the Quality reached the limit of Production.
*The Quality enhancement with Production is included in the maximum amount of Super Refinement enhancement.
Therefore, ATK+30/DEF+20 are the limits of Quality enhancement done by both Production and Super Refinement.
i know this but what im confused with is say u drop a max def armor or so if u go to take it to super refine will it be q0? |
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Post by NightBreeze on Mar 30, 2018 17:08:34 GMT
Every gear has a minimum quality - that's q0. When you SuperRefine it, if you succeed, you increase the quality by 1. The limit is ATK+30 (from q0) for weapons and DEF+20 (from q0) for add gears & armors. In production you can do ATK+15, DEF+6. Below is the information from Asobimo when they announced this feature. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}
- About Super Refinement -
Super Refinement is a new system that exceeds the limit of regular refinement.
You can enhance "ATK of Weapons/DEF of protection equipment such as Armor that are refined to +9" at NPC: "Dyron" in Fort Bailune.
ATK/DEF is referred to as "Quality" in the game.
You can enhance up to +30 for ATK of Weapons, +20 for DEF of Armor.
e.g.)
- Weapon +9 (ATK+0) -> Super Refinement Success -> Weapon +0 (ATK+1)
*You can try Super Refinement again after refining the equipment to +9.
ATK/DEF for each equipment have a limit and you cannot try Super Refinement exceeding the limit.
- Super Refinement is available only at Dyron the Blacksmith in Fort Bailune.
- You can try Super Refinement only for the equipment with +9 refinement value.
- Whether you succeed in Super Refinement or not, the refinement value will return to +0 from +9.
- The equipment will NOT be lost.
Quality can be enhanced with Production!
- A lot of equipment that were unable to be enhanced with Production has become available!
- You can enhance up to ATK+15/DEF+6 from base Quality with Production.
- There is no change in Production.
- Please try Super Refinement when the Quality reached the limit of Production.
*The Quality enhancement with Production is included in the maximum amount of Super Refinement enhancement.
Therefore, ATK+30/DEF+20 are the limits of Quality enhancement done by both Production and Super Refinement.
i know this but what im confused with is say u drop a max def armor or so if u go to take it to super refine will it be q0? 1. It's not possible to drop a max def armor. 2. If you take it to the BS in Bailune and try to superrefine it, he should tell you what quality it is right now. q0 is the absolute lowest it can be. If, for example, your BOO's def is 30, that means it's q5, because q0 is 25. Edit: to answer your exact question : if you drop a max def armor, it will be q15 q5 (thx to blazer for correction)(because that's the max def from drop). |
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Post by blazer on Mar 31, 2018 7:30:47 GMT
i know this but what im confused with is say u drop a max def armor or so if u go to take it to super refine will it be q0? 1. It's not possible to drop a max def armor. 2. If you take it to the BS in Bailune and try to superrefine it, he should tell you what quality it is right now. q0 is the absolute lowest it can be. If, for example, your BOO's def is 30, that means it's q5, because q0 is 25. Edit: to answer your exact question : if you drop a max def armor, it will be q15. Some corrections for Armor and add it's only upto q20..the max we get from drop is q5 and for weopen max super refine is q30 and max from drop is q15 x |
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Post by Le Cheese~ on Feb 8, 2019 21:10:28 GMT
Hi, may i ask if would the def25 from the lowest def of boo technically give us 25% resistance already? Or is the resistance+% only applicable once the armor/add starts to get to quality1-20?
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Post by °Malice° on Jan 30, 2021 21:42:23 GMT
Idk if its only me but dont u guys think sr on weapon kinda not worth for the price? Cuz basically u got 30 extra atk on weapon's atk, then multiplied with weapon's refinement at +9 (1.82) turns into 54.6 atk then multiply further with other damage multiplier.
For example a weapon with 300 weapon atk +9, atk +100%
300 x 1.82 x (1+(100%)) = 1092 atk
And same weapon but with sr, 330 weapon atk +9, atk +100%
330 x 1.82 x (1+(100%)) = 1201.2 atk
And the difference only 109 atk, would u buy max sr weapon which is kinda absurd in price. Just from my honest opinion, buying max sr weapon (with expensive price with a bit dmg improvement, i can say its a kind of scam) is quite pointless. But it could be a different story if it comes to buying max sr arm/add cuz basically both maxed sr arm and add gives additional 40 equip def=melee damage reduction.
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Post by Nobody (Retired for now) on Jan 31, 2021 3:04:48 GMT
Idk if its only me but dont u guys think sr on weapon kinda not worth for the price? Cuz basically u got 30 extra atk on weapon's atk, then multiplied with weapon's refinement at +9 (1.82) turns into 54.6 atk then multiply further with other damage multiplier. For example a weapon with 300 weapon atk +9, atk +100% 300 x 1.82 x (1+(100%)) = 1092 atk And same weapon but with sr, 330 weapon atk +9, atk +100% 330 x 1.82 x (1+(100%)) = 1201.2 atk And the difference only 109 atk, would u buy max sr weapon which is kinda absurd in price. Just from my honest opinion, buying max sr weapon (with expensive price with a bit dmg improvement, i can say its a kind of scam) is quite pointless. But it could be a different story if it comes to buying max sr arm/add cuz basically both maxed sr arm and add gives additional 40 equip def=melee damage reduction. I think the same. I won't pay Billions for 1% or less, more damage. I Max SR my Ira and Reincarnation shield on my Monk, because they'd become OP. And they did. |
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Post by blackghost on Feb 11, 2021 6:28:49 GMT
Idk if its only me but dont u guys think sr on weapon kinda not worth for the price? Cuz basically u got 30 extra atk on weapon's atk, then multiplied with weapon's refinement at +9 (1.82) turns into 54.6 atk then multiply further with other damage multiplier. For example a weapon with 300 weapon atk +9, atk +100% 300 x 1.82 x (1+(100%)) = 1092 atk And same weapon but with sr, 330 weapon atk +9, atk +100% 330 x 1.82 x (1+(100%)) = 1201.2 atk And the difference only 109 atk, would u buy max sr weapon which is kinda absurd in price. Just from my honest opinion, buying max sr weapon (with expensive price with a bit dmg improvement, i can say its a kind of scam) is quite pointless. But it could be a different story if it comes to buying max sr arm/add cuz basically both maxed sr arm and add gives additional 40 equip def=melee damage reduction. Ngl I never understood the point of super refine for this exact reason. I can see someone paying money for it simply for the sake of having a peak quality equip but not me, like hell I'm gonna buy an equip for 2B unless it's 2s. |
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