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Post by SpeedNin/Iyasuna on Jun 5, 2014 23:37:09 GMT
Hi I have been seeing a lot of ninjas use exelis and ganei to create clones lately and was wondering is there a specific way you have to put ganei on gear? or can you put ganei on everything and it still be able to create clones?
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Senpai
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Post by Senpai on Jun 5, 2014 23:45:32 GMT
ganei has atk+10% hp-30% (+30% if on special, equals it out). if ninja uses exelis it's exelis upg, which has skill delay-1 second. this is to be able to cast dance of clones faster. to do 9 clones you virtually want to be able to have 1 hp. ninja that can afford to have -100% hp can swap equips to be able to get 9 clones.
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Restia
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Post by Restia on Jun 6, 2014 0:49:01 GMT
ganei has atk+10% atk-30% (+30% if on special, equals it out). if ninja uses exelis it's exelis upg, which has skill delay-1 second. this is to be able to cast dance of clones faster. to do 9 clones you virtually want to be able to have 1 hp. ninja that can afford to have -100% hp can swap equips to be able to get 9 clones. U mean -30% hp right ._. |
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Senpai
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Post by Senpai on Jun 6, 2014 0:52:47 GMT
ganei has atk+10% atk-30% (+30% if on special, equals it out). if ninja uses exelis it's exelis upg, which has skill delay-1 second. this is to be able to cast dance of clones faster. to do 9 clones you virtually want to be able to have 1 hp. ninja that can afford to have -100% hp can swap equips to be able to get 9 clones. U mean -30% hp right ._. yes. much confuse, replied on a rush xD (sorry for the misinformation) |
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Post by fullheal on Feb 28, 2015 8:47:40 GMT
I realise this post is late but want to point out for any new players that see this. No matter your skill delay it does not affect in ANY way your Dance of Clones. Other skills yes such as cloning. Very usefull against bosses with fast attacks such as ganei. But DoC cool down is ONLY based on # of clones.
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Post by Shori>.< on Feb 28, 2015 9:20:11 GMT
I realise this post is late but want to point out for any new players that see this. No matter your skill delay it does not affect in ANY way your Dance of Clones. Other skills yes such as cloning. Very usefull against bosses with fast attacks such as ganei. But DoC cool down is ONLY based on # of clones. urm... Are you implying that skill delay in equips does not effect doc cool down or that it does not effect doc damage? Kinda confused sorry cuz i tested before and skill delay equips effect my doc cooldown |
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Roxzen
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Post by Roxzen on Feb 28, 2015 9:29:34 GMT
I realise this post is late but want to point out for any new players that see this. No matter your skill delay it does not affect in ANY way your Dance of Clones. Other skills yes such as cloning. Very usefull against bosses with fast attacks such as ganei. But DoC cool down is ONLY based on # of clones. Have you tested this at all? if you only used - 1 sec Im pretty sure that you wouldn't notice the difference, or do you need visuals to see that this statement is wrong? |
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Post by Jeancarlo on Feb 28, 2015 15:47:32 GMT
Holy bull droppings batman!
I realize this is OLD, but does anyone else notice NONE of the "answers" actually replied to the OP's question?
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Post by fullheal on Mar 1, 2015 22:50:22 GMT
Ok to answer the original question: many gear set ups can be used with ganei and be able to still clone. The key to cloning is simply to watch the total -maxhp that you have and then to swap gear out that will place your max hp above 10%. Example: koda s/ ganei, schwartz s/ganei, g.ring s/ganei :: swap schwartz s/ganei with iron armor up s/maxhp+20% and you can clone.
As to the above reference to am i blind i simply will refer you to the skill description and ask that the next time you speak about or to me you do so respectfully. Snide comments are childlike. Thanks.
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kms
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Post by kms on Mar 17, 2015 12:30:17 GMT
Ok to answer the original question: many gear set ups can be used with ganei and be able to still clone. The key to cloning is simply to watch the total -maxhp that you have and then to swap gear out that will place your max hp above 10%. Example: koda s/ ganei, schwartz s/ganei, g.ring s/ganei :: swap schwartz s/ganei with iron armor up s/maxhp+20% and you can clone. As to the above reference to am i blind i simply will refer you to the skill description and ask that the next time you speak about or to me you do so respectfully. Snide comments are childlike. Thanks. See the above video to see that the guy is able to hold 9 clones and still spam continuously. It is only gears. The opening moments also show his build where he has gone completely MAX AGI-CRT and 1-DEX. therefore all his DOC spam has to come only from gears which lead to the skill delay factor. |
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