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Post by neko641 on Nov 26, 2017 22:51:50 GMT
Hi I'm new here and totally new in the game too.
I'm currently around lvl 80 and I'm stucked... I've started to play Iruna by chance and on a whim I decided to go for a mage ('cause I like it :-p ) I intended to play almost solo but I ended up rather often in party. I dare to say that I'm usually not so bad in games but I really had a tough start here, more likely mostly because I don't understand the system.
At some point I was unsatified with my build so I asked for some advice (and googled somenthing too), more or less I found out that mage is a good class for playing solo and if you seemingly want to go for high wizard you should put around 50 in vit and then go for full int and dex (int>dex>vit), so I stopped at 52 vit and then I added int up to 130 and dex up to 86. Until today I thought I was on the right way then I went to battle the dark manor boss and I started to questioning my self...
Once the boss hp reached less then 50% it became more aggressive, he started to make 4 attacks in a row for about 950hp of damage each one (so it was basically one shotting me), at this very point I realized that somenthing was wrong with my build I had no chance to defeat it in a smooth way, and I started to wonder why other players with 10 lvl less could defeat him almost effortlessly. (I admit that I just learned now a thing that I've seen on a video: I should not stay on the same spot but I should run around while fighting, still IDK how much difference this will make). at this point I had ice spear 3 and is pretty much clear to me that my problem is not lacking fire power rather than lacking defence.
my equipment is, tilia talisman, mage garb +5, priest staff +5 and grecia helmet +5
for as much as I can understand from the damage formula {mobs atk*[1+random (0-20%)]-def}-(items def with refinig%)*(phisical resistance percentage)
my best way to reduce damage should be working on equipement def and here start my problem...
if I am told that I should build my character like that, that building should be right... I already have items that I'm not even supposed to have at my level so I don't feel like to blame my equiupement too. I could switch to a more defensive equipement (for instance ancient helmet +5 and damascan armor +5) but what's the point of being a mage if you have to wear a warrior equipement?
so finally my question is: is it really that build (max int then dex, vit =50) playable for a real solo mage? (and with solo I mean without buying equipement that will cost 1.000.000 spina each piece and without other high lvl players?) or is it a build that will become playable later in time but it's not ok to play solo at low levels?
P.S.: sorry for my bad english
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Post by Ismyle on Nov 26, 2017 23:08:29 GMT
From the mage tree you can go on either Cleric or Wizard and from these 2nd tier class your road towards the 3rd tier class will be:
Cleric - Monk, Bishop, Servant
Wizard - High Wizard, Enchanter, Necromancer
All the 3rd tier class are good, though they have pros and cons. So choosing a class is at your hands.
But staying as a mage for the rest of the game is another story, it maybe hard (not as hard as playing advent all the way) but I think it is worth it.
In terms of equipment, it is already decent at your level so there's no problem at all.
You can look for guides here or you can look at iruna-online.info to look for items that suits you well and look at stall or rokoko for their prices.
Int dex vit is the most common build for mage but if you want to try unique builds then it is up to you.
PS: A player who research a lot is rare af. xD
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Post by pingrek on Nov 26, 2017 23:30:28 GMT
If you feel your lacking in some hp you can try to get hp+ crystas like hp+700, and you can possibly get an ice book for weapon, and you can try to get a seahorse bangle for spec since it adds a healthy bit of hp at the cost of lowering mp natural recovery
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(0_0)
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Post by (0_0) on Nov 27, 2017 1:41:04 GMT
neko641 It seems like your problem is your lack of hp. As pingrek recommended, getting some Hp+700 crysta is good if your equipment are slotted, and seahorse bangle is a must have (+1500 hp). If you can, try to buy 6 sauro medal +. You can trade them for 10 sauro medal each at NPC Sauro in Wibo, which you can then trade for a Bunny Ear. Bunny Ear give a decent hp boost and always come slotted. Once you get a decent HP, try to get some Revita L to spam during boss fights. Always use drain and reflection, and while Ice Spear damage can be higher than Fire Lance, the cast time can be rather crippling. So if you found yourself getting a beat down while casting, just use Fire Lance. And finally, get a pet. Pet can heal you and revive you when you died. Its a necessary when soloing MQ.
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Post by neko641 on Nov 27, 2017 2:29:08 GMT
[...] PS: A player who research a lot is rare af. xD I don't mind doing some research I helped a little in other games, I haven't spent any qaulity time here, but I may consider trying somenthing in the future, anyway at the moment I'm just trying to learn the basic mechanics of the game. |
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Post by NightBreeze on Nov 27, 2017 2:42:18 GMT
but what's the point of being a mage if you have to wear a warrior equipement? so finally my question is: is it really that build (max int then dex, vit =50) playable for a real solo mage? (and with solo I mean without buying equipement that will cost 1.000.000 spina each piece and without other high lvl players?) or is it a build that will become playable later in time but it's not ok to play solo at low levels? You have to wear tank equips just when dealing with strong enemies solo. When in a PT or against weak opponents, you can use your normal damage equips. And I know 1m might seem like a lot of spina to you now, but once you find ways to earn money it will almost seem like nothing. Edit: Read this if you haven't already: irunaonline.boards.net/thread/27600/iruna-starters |
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Post by neko641 on Nov 27, 2017 2:43:20 GMT
neko641 It seems like your problem is your lack of hp. As pingrek recommended, getting some Hp+700 crysta is good if your equipment are slotted, and seahorse bangle is a must have (+1500 hp). If you can, try to buy 6 sauro medal +. You can trade them for 10 sauro medal each at NPC Sauro in Wibo, which you can then trade for a Bunny Ear. Bunny Ear give a decent hp boost and always come slotted. Once you get a decent HP, try to get some Revita L to spam during boss fights. Always use drain and reflection, and while Ice Spear damage can be higher than Fire Lance, the cast time can be rather crippling. So if you found yourself getting a beat down while casting, just use Fire Lance. And finally, get a pet. Pet can heal you and revive you when you died. Its a necessary when soloing MQ. Being completely new I think I completely fail to asses everything but that should get better with time. the gist of my question was not about how do I get stronger (though I like to), I've read other thread and other things here and there... it's more about is buying all the stuff that is mentioned here or in other thread really a viable option for a player who really play by his self? so to speak for me sparing 100.000 spina would be quite a long process, by the time I've spared all the money to buy the aformentioned equipement I may be 30 or lvl higher (considering 2 raids a week). More clearly all the equpment I've got has been gifted me by other kind players, (I never asked it they gave it me by their own good heart) what if I had really no help, what if I have to spare all the money and farm all the equipment, would it be that guide still be consistent at low levels? if that was the case should low levels add more vit at the start and catch up later on int? (vit is also physical def) that's some good piece of advice. I normally farm revita L potions. the casting time is interesting, do we have anywhere a list of the casting time for each spell? my guess is that is related to amount of mp spended (keeping dex constant) but it's only my idea so far, I never really tested it. I'll look into how get a pet ty a lot |
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Post by neko641 on Nov 27, 2017 2:45:14 GMT
but what's the point of being a mage if you have to wear a warrior equipement? so finally my question is: is it really that build (max int then dex, vit =50) playable for a real solo mage? (and with solo I mean without buying equipement that will cost 1.000.000 spina each piece and without other high lvl players?) or is it a build that will become playable later in time but it's not ok to play solo at low levels? You have to wear tank equips just when dealing with strong enemies solo. When in a PT or against weak opponents, you can use your normal damage equips. And I know 1m might seem like a lot of spina to you now, but once you find ways to earn money it will almost seem like nothing. so using damascan armor is fine, I did somenthing like that in the past but once I got mage garb I thought I was on the wrong way, should I go for ferzen Iron armor, I read somewhere it can be enanced, or should I give up because I will eventually fix my problems and it's not worth wasting time on it? |
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Post by Makina Yuki on Nov 27, 2017 2:46:08 GMT
Try become wizard (at least) then grind exp at neknott (lv200 mob at magonza fortress) or ratagne (mob lv275 near underground bailune) until you reach lv90, they can be easily killed by wizard (this is way I grind until reach lv90 wizard). Mq should be not really hard at lv90 (at least until halios mq).
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Post by ●Kittkat on Nov 27, 2017 3:04:33 GMT
Sorry to go off topic, but can you go online now? Just from reading the original post I can see that you want to learn. I'd be more than happy to run a few mq for you if you're interested 😊
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(0_0)
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Post by (0_0) on Nov 27, 2017 4:37:42 GMT
neko641 cast time can be reduced by dex (some skill can't be reduced this way and need to use -cast time gear, but this is abit more advance topic). Making spina is not hard. Once you managed to shoved yourself past the boss Halios in MQ, you can start joining raids in Sofya City (You need to join a raid Group Chat). These raids is easy spina for newbie and great way to start building your equips. Plus once you get to 140 and turn High Wizard, you get earthquake which is an AoE. You can easily farm easy stuff to sell to other player, like flower nectar, ent splinters, Sp Revita Ale etc. So yes, its possible for you to make spina as solo players. For stat tho, I would suggest that you max your int as soon as possible since HW need a lot of matk and mp. I feel the need to point out, most of those HW boss solo is most likely using Zero Ray, a level 300 skill. Pre-Zero ray, High Wizard need a completely different set of gear too so don't be buying universe and struggler.
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♪Sumire
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Post by ♪Sumire on Nov 27, 2017 5:17:41 GMT
hmm considering ur new
as i see it and as already pointed out ur main issue is ur survival
uve already considered putting 50 vit -- and is now focusing on int and dex
as a low lvl there are 2 routes for solo
1. kill before it kills u -- which requires u to be fast caster -- faster than before ur target catches u
2. face to face -- which will require u to drop speed for more hp and def but will allow u to survive a full onslaught while slowly but surely chips away ur targets hp
--the most popular way kiting or hit and run tactic is applicable on both --
hmm just onething that caught my eye -- ur still mage? maybe u should also start to decide which class ur going on next -- the 2nd tier class
wizards -- got high dmg skills at lvl 70 like fire lance /ice sper and support skills like drain which will heal u for a fixed amount of time and will revive u once if u died --drain isnt castable again for 30 sec - 60 sec depending on skill lvl after it revives --drain will fail but ull still deal dmg
clerics -- got high skills which supports soloing like heal which is stronger than mini heal / bless which will regenearte ur hp and mp overtime / aegis which will reduce magic dmg u receives / and the passive faith and capacity which increase ur hp and mp -- lacks any strong firepower though -- u only get 1 atk skill --which is mana wave and the next one is at lvl 90 -holy light - up which is also weak
---dunno if i can interpret what u said above as ur planning to go hw
u might also want to check on enchanter which is on the same branch as hw -- thats also one class that can live on its own -- build is almost identical except for some points --
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Post by neko641 on Nov 27, 2017 11:26:36 GMT
First of all ty all for the answers, for the sake of shortness I'll answer in one post to everyone: @makina: My bad, I wrote that I went for the mage on a whim, I intended that I had no real good reason to choose the mage class over the warrior one nor that I've really made any calculation in order to make that choice. I'm currently a lvl 86 wizard I do have fire lance 3 and Ice spear 3, I'll try to farm the way you suggested, I think they may be still a little to hard fro me but trying doesn't harm. TY. MQ shouldn't be hard but I'm still struggling, that's why I came here for advice, for sure I must have got somenthing wrong but I need to figure out what  @kittkatt: our time zone may be a little different but I think we will find a way to meet each other sooner or later. I play on bluestacks so if I'm using the broswer I'm off line in Iruna, but test group sounds really interesting... running MQ togheter would be against soling, isn't it?  seriously I don't mind progressing in the story with some help but before anything else I want to understand what I'm doing, right now My first priority will be go back to blaiard and try to do it again and again until I'll get used to play my char in the best way. @(0_0): about casting time I figured out that it's about dex and equipement. I think mage robe and priest staff help there. About maxing int you mean spend 3 whole points per level on int alone? Once I reached 56 vit I simply had to split my sp in 2 stats so I went for 2:1 int/dex ratio, there's no real ground to back it up this choice, I was thinking that in the worst case scenario I will eventually max int and get at least half dex, or that the transition to the optimal ratio should not be too hard. Actually I wanted to test more the skill ratio but due to an accident I made a jump of 26 lvls and I couldn't make other changes anymore. ♪Sumire: that's what I thought Wiz and HW were about, kill before you get killed, then Vatendeth showed me that he was faster...  one thing that I think I totally missed is to try to run around, so I'm going back to fight Blaiard until I'll get used to the strategy and then I'll try to do Vatendeth again. what does Kiting stand for? I'm currently a lvl 86 wiz and I already have fire lance and ice spear 3 skills. again ty all, now I'0ll go back to play and I'll try to practice what you suggested me, ty a lot. |
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Post by bravebor on Nov 27, 2017 11:33:20 GMT
First step. Don't try to solo. I mean you can, but then you may as well simply play a fps than to participate in mmo. Meet ppl, grind and farm together, have fun. Talk to others and learn about the game as you play with them. Honestly the best ppl ik are from my nub days partying with other nubs trying to figure things out.
Leave solo play for when you've the exp to truly understand how to do so.
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Post by Makina Yuki on Nov 27, 2017 11:39:43 GMT
Ratagne & neknott is soloable for wizard class. They are good mob for leveling at your level because I do them at lv70 for leveling, then started soloing mq at level 90 until elban mq only with general wand ns, iron armor, monty berret ns.
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seriously I don't mind progressing in the story with some help but before anything else I want to understand what I'm doing, right now My first priority will be go back to blaiard and try to do it again and again until I'll get used to play my char in the best way.
one thing that I think I totally missed is to try to run around, so I'm going back to fight Blaiard until I'll get used to the strategy and then I'll try to do Vatendeth again.