Makina Yuki
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Autoskill
Nov 22, 2017 12:52:01 GMT
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Post by Makina Yuki on Nov 22, 2017 12:52:01 GMT
Well, whatever the result, it will be good information to all iruna players since purple apos calculation always vague for most players (including me). But based my knowledge:
Red red → red HP · defense · HP natural recovery UP -Green green → green avoidance, absolute avoidance, magic evasion UP -blue blue → blue MP · magic defense · MP natural recovery UP -Red-green → yellow ATK · physical penetration, physical power UP -Mix Blue and green → blue green MATK · magic through-magic power UP -Red blue→ purple auto skills · ASPD · critical rate UP
That means if you want get boost from one line, you need 100 pts at that line boost. If you want get boost from mixed colour, you need 100 pts at 2 apos line boost.
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Autoskill
Nov 22, 2017 13:04:16 GMT
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Post by ≧▽≦Pipopapo on Nov 22, 2017 13:04:16 GMT
Mema
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Post by Rain on Nov 22, 2017 13:32:04 GMT
You say purple "line" meaning 1 singular line? so if i have max auto skill Al setup (6 purple lines), would be 24% no? No, 6 purple line only give you 2% autoskill rate (4% if you have 100 stats point at rlb & blb) [Purple】 Red Blue → Purple Auto skill · ASPD · Critical rate UP 1 line auto skill + 0%, ASPD +?%, Critical rate +? 2 line auto skill + 0%, ASPD +?%, Critical rate +? 3 line auto skill + 1%, ASPD +?%, Critical rate +? 4 line auto skill + 0%, ASPD +?%, Critical rate +? 5 line auto skill + 0%, ASPD +?%, Critical rate +? 6 line auto skill + 1%, ASPD +?%, Critical rate +? Source:from link that I post before (scroll down until you found apostolia explanation) Im sure this is just a wild guess from jp when apostolia first came out... This is far from true... If this is really then why aspd and crt rate has "?" When they are far more noticable than autoskill so dont take this as the exact info of purple line
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Autoskill
Nov 22, 2017 13:41:04 GMT
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Post by Makina Yuki on Nov 22, 2017 13:41:04 GMT
rain source: translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?act=url&depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&nv=1&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ja&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=http://iruna-online.wikiwiki.jp/%3F%25A5%25A2%25A5%25DD%25A5%25B9%25A5%25C8%25A5%25EA%25A5%25A2&usg=ALkJrhjS8k8i-T2uYl9wnGSl-Pgb67xyTw【purple】 Red Blue → Purple Auto skill · ASPD · Critical rate UP 1 line auto skill +?%, ASPD + 30%, critical rate + 30? 2 line auto skill +?%, ASPD + 20%, critical rate + 20? 3 line auto skill +?%, ASPD + 20%, critical rate + 20? 4 line auto skill +?%, ASPD + 10%, critical rate + 10? 5 line auto skill +?%, ASPD + 10%, critical rate + 10? 6 line auto skill +?%, ASPD + 10%, critical rate + 10? ^they forgot to renew this I just provide information from iruna jp wiki. Its up to you to believe it or not.
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Dragsbro
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I'm kind of a necromancer, as in playing with SK is just toying with dead stuff at this point
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Post by Dragsbro on Nov 22, 2017 13:59:00 GMT
Dragsbro I dont have valid source about apos stats boost, so I cant tell whether your argument is true or not (so do my theory). If you had char that has 100 blb & glb, maybe you can compare matk boost with cyan apos and non cyan apos. For example your sk has raw 4k matk, then change your apos to your 2nd page that isnt cyan apos. If your matk difference between cyan & non cyan apos is more than 460 (raw matk without any matk gears or al) or over 1k (if you had matk al), your theory probably true. But if your matk boost is around 460 (without matk al) or bellow than 900 or 1k (with apos al) maybe your matk boost not 200% but only 100%. Any result by this experiment will become main formula to all apos stats calculation. That's my MATK with and without cyan lines. On my cyan page, i have Parazaia, Jusal and Ouvel for extra MATK. Sauro II doesnt change MATK and i have Zazel as well on the second page. But the thing is i only have 100 GLB XD
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Autoskill
Nov 22, 2017 14:04:30 GMT
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Post by Makina Yuki on Nov 22, 2017 14:04:30 GMT
Dragsbro Nice information! So it will worth to invest 200 pts at 2 apos line (especially for cyan one). For 6% autoskill, its up to you whether it useful or not, but I think 6% autoskill isnt worth for auto attack ench since almost all your auto will proc when special status occured (except you want reach near 100% autoskill rate outside special status buff).
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Autoskill
Nov 22, 2017 14:10:16 GMT
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Post by Rain on Nov 22, 2017 14:10:16 GMT
rain crt rate not affect autoskill proc rate, but if your attack missed, your auto wont proc. So more hit or crt rate, more chance to land normal/critical attack which make more chance to proc auto. Yep, defense autoskill had higher chance to proc compared to attack chance autoskill. But damage disable autoskill maybe had lower chance to proc. Does the proc rate increase with 2 Damage disable Autoskill? Or it's just 1 Autoskill didn't proc, so another one "might" proc thought?Disable can proc at the same time if u have 2 or more tested this.. Now if u did this on monk magic will happen... Disable dmg counter same rate as any other counter auto unless proven they have lower chance than others.
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Post by Ryukengan on Nov 22, 2017 15:53:22 GMT
@luis Makina Yuki Done~with~forums 'AhSaN' Rain6 purple lines give: 2% Autoskill, 30% ASPD, 45 Critical Rate 6 Cyan lines give: 110 MATK, ? Magic Pen, ? Magic Each point in a line status increases the line bonus by 1%. Each and every autoskill chance gets calculated unrelated to the other. Damage disable autos can have different proc rates if they come from different sources. If 2 damage disable autos trigger at the same time you get healed for the damage you were supposed to take.
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Post by Brynne on Nov 22, 2017 16:21:33 GMT
Purple line 1: Autoskill ± 0% ASPD + 5% critical rate? 2: Autoskill ± 0% ASPD + 9% critical rate? 3: Autoskill + 1% ASPD + 14% critical rate? 4: Autoskill + 1% ASPD + 18% critical rate? 5: Autoskill + 1% ASPD + 23% critical rate? 6: Autoskill + 2% ASPD + 27% critical rate + 45? source: ameblo.jp/matsudhiro/entry-12086601054.html
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Autoskill
Nov 23, 2017 1:36:54 GMT
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Post by Done~with~forums on Nov 23, 2017 1:36:54 GMT
@luis Makina Yuki Done~with~forums 'AhSaN' Rain6 purple lines give: 2% Autoskill, 30% ASPD, 45 Critical Rate 6 Cyan lines give: 110 MATK, ? Magic Pen, ? Magic Each point in a line status increases the line bonus by 1%. Each and every autoskill chance gets calculated unrelated to the other. Damage disable autos can have different proc rates if they come from different sources. If 2 damage disable autos trigger at the same time you get healed for the damage you were supposed to take. i use no crt on my servant and it hits purely crt ik 100% crt is not a thing but its crt rate is like useing 256 crt stat so again i belive this jap info if wrong
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Post by ≧▽≦Pipopapo on Nov 23, 2017 4:51:04 GMT
rain source: translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?act=url&depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&nv=1&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ja&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=http://iruna-online.wikiwiki.jp/%3F%25A5%25A2%25A5%25DD%25A5%25B9%25A5%25C8%25A5%25EA%25A5%25A2&usg=ALkJrhjS8k8i-T2uYl9wnGSl-Pgb67xyTw【purple】 Red Blue → Purple Auto skill · ASPD · Critical rate UP 1 line auto skill +?%, ASPD + 30%, critical rate + 30? 2 line auto skill +?%, ASPD + 20%, critical rate + 20? 3 line auto skill +?%, ASPD + 20%, critical rate + 20? 4 line auto skill +?%, ASPD + 10%, critical rate + 10? 5 line auto skill +?%, ASPD + 10%, critical rate + 10? 6 line auto skill +?%, ASPD + 10%, critical rate + 10? ^they forgot to renew this I just provide information from iruna jp wiki. Its up to you to believe it or not. Crit rate 10? With 6 line Then look at this Equipment Catalpa bow ns Country road clean Ancient helm Forest spirit just have 1 Crt stat
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Autoskill
Nov 23, 2017 4:54:58 GMT
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Post by Zensui_X on Nov 23, 2017 4:54:58 GMT
≧▽≦Pipopapo the values there are accumulated perhaps should be like this instead 1 line = 30 crt rate 2 lines = 50 crt rate 3 lines = 70 crt rate 4 lines = 80 crt rate 5 lines = 90 crt rate 6 lines = 100 crt rate
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Makina Yuki
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Autoskill
Nov 23, 2017 4:55:30 GMT
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Post by Makina Yuki on Nov 23, 2017 4:55:30 GMT
≧▽≦Pipopapo Read again, its not 10 crt rate at 6 line purple, but 100 crt rate 1st line you gain 30 crt rate 2nd line you gain 20 crt rate 3rd line you gain 20 crt rate 4th line you gain 10 crt rate 5th line you gain 10 crt rate 6th line you gain 10 crt rate if you sum them you will gain 100 crt rate I think many ppl still vague about apostolia boost mechanics.
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Post by Brynne on Nov 23, 2017 5:00:53 GMT
not 10% CRT rate. but 30%+20%+20%+10%+10%+10%
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Post by Makina Yuki on Nov 23, 2017 5:02:16 GMT
About damage disable autoskill, I feel that their proc rate is low even with my ench autoskill boost skills. I dont know how much its proc rate, but I saw many bish can proc 4 magic counter autoskill without many autoskill abi and its happend frequently, so I assume that magic counter auto has better proc rate than damage disable auto.
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