Eaysley
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Post by Eaysley on Nov 6, 2017 11:05:32 GMT
Am I doing the right decision? I am really disappointed with SK because it cannot solo farm. Plus side is that I am always welcome in any PT I join - but I really don't like parties. Q_Q
I am level 363 with low Apostolia.
I think I'll change to 375 STR 400 CRT 375 AGI IDK for left over stats yet (All apostolia only 130 each). Is PF damage any better than SK? How about the evasion of PF? I am used to my gladiator with 1.3k eva which is somewhat already immune to regular physical attack. Can AGI ninja reach 1.3k eva with no eva+ equips?
My SK is currently "decent", still nowhere near the usefulness of my gladiator for boss farms. Will PF be better? What's the maximum PF damage you have on boss at solo?
Thanks.
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Post by Makina Yuki on Nov 6, 2017 11:09:35 GMT
I heard doc with pf can reach 3m damage (Str crt dex tho) but has +9 seconds skill delay, so sk win in term of dps. For evasion, maybe you will need glb to boost your eva also your attack, but Im not sure how much eva you can have without eva gear.
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Post by Mocha❀モカモカ on Nov 6, 2017 16:58:19 GMT
As far as I seen on youtube, PF ninjas can 1 shot many if not most bosses in ep 2-3 with full clones (9 clones). I never tried PF ninja but as a SK ninja with INT CRT DEX build my highest solo PF was around 750k (9 clones, self buff, using my assassins equipment) so expect double or triple the damage with a PF build. However damage will be lower if you are going with AGI instead of DEX.
SK is more of a DPS where as PF is flat damage.
SK: deals ~500k-1m / second
PF: deals ~1.5m-2m / instant with 9 clones (have to re-clone after that)
Also, I don’t think 375 AGI will reach 1.3k evasion but it will be close (approximating 900-1k). Adding evasion al crystas, or utilizing pet skills (quick turn, evasion) will help reach towards 1.3k evasion. As for left over stats, you can add them to green line (for more evasion) or to red line (for more damage).
As for if you should switch? It’s your decision but I think your gladiator will still be more efficient at soloing bosses that cannot be 1 shot by PF (Because of the 9 clone delay + time to re-clone).
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Eaysley
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Post by Eaysley on Nov 6, 2017 23:09:03 GMT
As far as I seen on youtube, PF ninjas can 1 shot many if not most bosses in ep 2-3 with full clones (9 clones). I never tried PF ninja but as a SK ninja with INT CRT DEX build my highest solo PF was around 750k (9 clones, self buff, using my assassins equipment) so expect double or triple the damage with a PF build. However damage will be lower if you are going with AGI instead of DEX. SK is more of a DPS where as PF is flat damage. SK: deals ~500k-1m / second PF: deals ~1.5m-2m / instant with 9 clones (have to re-clone after that) Also, I don’t think 375 AGI will reach 1.3k evasion but it will be close (approximating 900-1k). Adding evasion al crystas, or utilizing pet skills (quick turn, evasion) will help reach towards 1.3k evasion. As for left over stats, you can add them to green line (for more evasion) or to red line (for more damage). As for if you should switch? It’s your decision but I think your gladiator will still be more efficient at soloing bosses that cannot be 1 shot by PF (Because of the 9 clone delay + time to re-clone). Thanks. My SK hits around 1m+ PF with my gladiator's equips. I haven't seen a video with more than 1.5m damage using PF. Does anyone know how to reach optimum damage? What is the stat distribution and equip set? I can probably afford anything but 2s equipment. |
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Post by pingrek on Nov 7, 2017 2:23:54 GMT
As far as I seen on youtube, PF ninjas can 1 shot many if not most bosses in ep 2-3 with full clones (9 clones). I never tried PF ninja but as a SK ninja with INT CRT DEX build my highest solo PF was around 750k (9 clones, self buff, using my assassins equipment) so expect double or triple the damage with a PF build. However damage will be lower if you are going with AGI instead of DEX. SK is more of a DPS where as PF is flat damage. SK: deals ~500k-1m / second PF: deals ~1.5m-2m / instant with 9 clones (have to re-clone after that) Also, I don’t think 375 AGI will reach 1.3k evasion but it will be close (approximating 900-1k). Adding evasion al crystas, or utilizing pet skills (quick turn, evasion) will help reach towards 1.3k evasion. As for left over stats, you can add them to green line (for more evasion) or to red line (for more damage). As for if you should switch? It’s your decision but I think your gladiator will still be more efficient at soloing bosses that cannot be 1 shot by PF (Because of the 9 clone delay + time to re-clone). Thanks. My SK hits around 1m+ PF with my gladiator's equips. I haven't seen a video with more than 1.5m damage using PF. Does anyone know how to reach optimum damage? What is the stat distribution and equip set? I can probably afford anything but 2s equipment. Probably the optimum is dex/crt/str with elemental bows/canary bow grapagos, ultimi reup or ira reup dorry, monty beret up Raton, adamantite arrows telon, but this is just from memory on gears and xtals so I may have missed something that's better |
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Post by Makina Yuki on Nov 7, 2017 7:12:25 GMT
Eaysley Please note that there are any fail chance for doc+pf doing high damage. Sometimes, I experience this when fight boss that really need to onehit to farm them (example:Blitz). To increaseing doc+pf damage you can also use hyde attack pet skill and devil medicine for consumable (I heard doc+pf can hit 2-3m using this item).
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Dragsbro
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I'm kind of a necromancer, as in playing with SK is just toying with dead stuff at this point
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Post by Dragsbro on Nov 7, 2017 11:38:38 GMT
highest dmg-aiming build would indeed be Elemental bow or throw, as having bow is pretty interesting thanks to aas
Full STR DEX CRT then glb and then rlb if you still have points left
For highest dmg ever, i'd say elemental bow/bancho muscle, ira III (or ulti or schwermer, i mean you know which armor are good for atk/crt already i think) slotted with the to-come aldi or maybe dorry in the wait time, monty beret/raton, aas/noid or telon
For ALs, ouvel/sauro II/Mamonea/Arick are a must i think, then teo/gk/etc
But as said earlier, keep in mind that without delay, SK will out-DPS pf pretty easily, and also consider that if you get hit while you're over 3 clones with PF activated, if swift shadow doesnt proc, you'll get back to 3 clones
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Post by Maxwello on Nov 7, 2017 15:38:55 GMT
I have high Evasion and I can't pf mid battle so I'd say it's almost certainly a start of fight one hit thing. But I spose it's still (especially with high dmg bow build) a good starter to boss Fights. Also I guess just the one shot bosses and thier drops justify it as solo farmer.
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Post by Brynne on Nov 7, 2017 17:23:50 GMT
My ninja bow    Equip Element normal bow ◇ganei ultimi re-up ◇dorry ☆Crt5 schwartz : for clone monty ◇raton ☆Crt4 thimble ◇suishin ☆Crt1  |
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Post by roxysan2001 on Dec 6, 2017 7:52:59 GMT
You're making the right choice, Sk in my opinion is overrated same as bow ninja, I find it funny as Pf Dmg doesn't come from dex, We can all argue, But at the end of the day Str Dex Crt (Claw Ninja), Takes the Dmg factor, I'm a level 356 claw ninja, Compared with many bow users and not once beat, It's my opinion so you don't have to listen, But as I said not once has a 2s bow user even touched me
(Sorry if I sound Rude or arrogant Peepz, Just Bow is overrated and meant to be a doc spam build)
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Dragsbro
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I'm kind of a necromancer, as in playing with SK is just toying with dead stuff at this point
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Post by Dragsbro on Dec 6, 2017 11:38:31 GMT
You're making the right choice, Sk in my opinion is overrated same as bow ninja, I find it funny as Pf Dmg doesn't come from dex, We can all argue, But at the end of the day Str Dex Crt (Claw Ninja), Takes the Dmg factor, I'm a level 356 claw ninja, Compared with many bow users and not once beat, It's my opinion so you don't have to listen, But as I said not once has a 2s bow user even touched me (Sorry if I sound Rude or arrogant Peepz, Just Bow is overrated and meant to be a doc spam build) Well yes, that's what ended up being agreed on, i think, PF=huge explosive dmg ; SK=huge DPS It's like 2 persons who practiced running, one trained over 100m and the other one over 42km The one used to the 42km running won't make the 100m as fast as the other one, and the latter wouldn't come close to the marathonian over 42km neither Also i think OP made his choice already, kinda dead thread x) |
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Eaysley
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Post by Eaysley on Dec 6, 2017 12:03:32 GMT
You're making the right choice, Sk in my opinion is overrated same as bow ninja, I find it funny as Pf Dmg doesn't come from dex, We can all argue, But at the end of the day Str Dex Crt (Claw Ninja), Takes the Dmg factor, I'm a level 356 claw ninja, Compared with many bow users and not once beat, It's my opinion so you don't have to listen, But as I said not once has a 2s bow user even touched me (Sorry if I sound Rude or arrogant Peepz, Just Bow is overrated and meant to be a doc spam build) Well yes, that's what ended up being agreed on, i think, PF=huge explosive dmg ; SK=huge DPS It's like 2 persons who practiced running, one trained over 100m and the other one over 42km The one used to the 42km running won't make the 100m as fast as the other one, and the latter wouldn't come close to the marathonian over 42km neither Also i think OP made his choice already, kinda dead thread x) I stayed SK I've seen PF videos and got extremely disappointed |
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Eaysley
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Post by Eaysley on Dec 6, 2017 13:58:01 GMT
You're making the right choice, Sk in my opinion is overrated same as bow ninja, I find it funny as Pf Dmg doesn't come from dex, We can all argue, But at the end of the day Str Dex Crt (Claw Ninja), Takes the Dmg factor, I'm a level 356 claw ninja, Compared with many bow users and not once beat, It's my opinion so you don't have to listen, But as I said not once has a 2s bow user even touched me (Sorry if I sound Rude or arrogant Peepz, Just Bow is overrated and meant to be a doc spam build) Can you share a vid? I need to see damage and evasion. I'm still thinking about stelfying. Sk sucks at solo but I'm welcome in literally any party |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2017 2:51:24 GMT
PF is only good for some one shot boss farm. I don't think its very useful past EP3. You will still rely on gladiator past EP3. I owned a PF before and I can only do til Raton. 400+ STR DEX CRT and I still need R2 I need extra consumable. I could be able to one shot R2 maybe if the stats maxed and have 2s neutral bow. But if you are using it EP1-EP2 bosses and all gods then its a good to go  Claw is good too (normal) since I saw a friend one shotting most bosses EP1-2, but I'm not sure about special claw. PF is really dissapointing if you can't one shot your target especially if you are normal bow. No evasion unlike normal claw. |
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Post by roxysan2001 on Dec 8, 2017 4:12:45 GMT
Yet again sorry for bringing it up, I'm a level 356 Claw Ninja in English Iruna, I can 1 shot Raton 1 and 2 just by using ignition no mins etc and Can do 1m doc to 3i via ignition, Good on me right?, I probably sound arrogant rn guys, Just stating the facts, Bow=Doc Spammer Claw=Heavy Damager, I don't use 2s either as max SR weapons have a tendency to out dmg most other 2s weapons, All depends on the 2s tbh. Yet again if you was talking dps 1m doc doesn't last as long as Perm 1m sk so you may have a point, Pf can one shot some tough bosses like leviam etc as well
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