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Post by ruebear on Oct 27, 2017 14:25:20 GMT
Part of the newbs being lazy, is that they aren't willing to learn more of the game. If you have enough time to beg, then take time to learn how to make Spina.
I did not waste hours on end when I first started Iruna many years ago, grinding at Kijimus at Sofya to get a mere sum of chump change of 100k every full bag. But yet all these new players know nothing but to beg. I think it's always a good rule to research and ask questions before starting any game, it's always useful to be knowledgeable.
I don't know about you guys, but begging in any culture is pretty much universal as seen looked down upon, especially to an extent like examples in iruna. Asking for help and begging are two different things.
Now if you truly are helping someone understand the game, then please inform the new player of everything, especially the cost in gears, and to not beg, but ask for help if possible. You can't just say "be sk ninja cus super strong," then leave them. It's sad to see new players wanting to be a class with no knowledge about it, except it's "super strong."
All in all, people need to take more incitive. Don't start something and finish it half assed.
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Post by Makina Yuki on Oct 27, 2017 15:25:04 GMT
Actually there are some missunderstanding about certain class because high level player suggestion that has no knowledge about that class, for example many player said that ninja is easiest class because it had high survival (9 clone build) or high damage (sk build). They never told to new player about its cons especially need vaccine and mp pots part, so in the end we see many beggars says that they cant solo boss or cant get spina due to low damage etc.
I still remember when many high level player suggest me to become hw or nail nin when I still nub, however I ignore they suggestion and become enchanter because I like enchanter from log horizon (shiroe :3). Then I search many information to become ench, learn how to farm as ench, and try to overcome enchanter cons, the result, I dont regret my decission since my gameplay is really suit with enchanter and she is my highest level char now, even I can solo many hard boss with her.
The moral is dont always believe with any players that says x class is hard but they didnt have knowledge about that class. Also dont be hestiated with your job, your job is good as long you try find way how to play and farm with your class. And always ask advice from players that really know how to play with your class xD.
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Magic Sheep
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Post by Magic Sheep on Oct 27, 2017 16:51:43 GMT
Necromancers could be a part of the party too if they can summon things other than spooky. Ex : Empress's corpse
Empress corpse : braaaaaains Empress soul : Why did you do this to me? Delma : necro pls
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Post by rizen on Oct 27, 2017 17:12:48 GMT
Actually there are some missunderstanding about certain class because high level player suggestion that has no knowledge about that class, for example many player said that ninja is easiest class because it had high survival (9 clone build) or high damage (sk build). They never told to new player about its cons especially need vaccine and mp pots part, so in the end we see many beggars says that they cant solo boss or cant get spina due to low damage etc. I still remember when many high level player suggest me to become hw or nail nin when I still nub, however I ignore they suggestion and become enchanter because I like enchanter from log horizon (shiroe :3). Then I search many information to become ench, learn how to farm as ench, and try to overcome enchanter cons, the result, I dont regret my decission since my gameplay is really suit with enchanter and she is my highest level char now, even I can solo many hard boss with her. The moral is dont always believe with any players that says x class is hard but they didnt have knowledge about that class. Also dont be hestiated with your job, your job is good as long you try find way how to play and farm with your class. And always ask advice from players that really know how to play with your class xD. I agree, especially with all those discouragement in pursuing enchanter.
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Post by Krish (Retired Player) on Oct 27, 2017 17:36:56 GMT
The community is okay but what triggers me the most is the videos made on YouTube. Apart from TiltTube, Takachi and a couple others, there are a plethora of tutorials on how to speedhack and bot, a player vs a boss, etc. It's not creative! Seriously! Come up with something that will make me or someone else say "Wow!" Every time I watch a player vs a boss I obviously know the player is gonna win, there's nothing about any of these videos that intrigues me very much.
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Post by Crysta| on Oct 30, 2017 0:21:44 GMT
What the community taught me the best things were about being in a party back then: 1. We make friends 2. We finish quests faster 3. We grow stronger together
What the community taught me the best things are about being in a party now: 1. No random invites 2. No random invites 3. No random invites
^.^
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Magic Sheep
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Post by Magic Sheep on Nov 3, 2017 10:02:38 GMT
Leecher : my job here is done Raiders : but you didn't do anything Leecher : ~equip communism flag~
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2017 22:19:02 GMT
I think almost every gaming community is like this. Some people login just to hang out with their friends and don't actually play the game. Some people only play minding their own business. But some people, oh gosh, all they do is brag about their damage and be egotistical. (I think me and drags are talking about the same person ahah) Aside from that, a good amount of the people I've came across have been nice or helpful. Can't rid the game of hackers, beggars, and scammers so there's that.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2017 0:05:45 GMT
Leecher : my job here is done Raiders : but you didn't do anything Leecher : ~equip communism flag~ LOL
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Magic Sheep
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Post by Magic Sheep on Nov 4, 2017 14:18:05 GMT
Bruh I'm Stalin the pic
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Magic Sheep
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Post by Magic Sheep on Nov 4, 2017 14:21:16 GMT
Smile Sweet Sister Surprise Seize the means of production
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MITS:Servant
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Alive and Active again!!! Lets have more fun!!(つ°ヮ°)つ
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Post by MITS:Servant on Nov 4, 2017 14:49:34 GMT
Smile Sweet Sister Surprise Seize the means of production i see your a man of culture as well
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2017 14:55:09 GMT
There is no need for that capitalistic move comrade! The pic is O U R S !
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Ismyle
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Post by Ismyle on Nov 4, 2017 15:04:16 GMT
Leecher : my job here is done Raiders : but you didn't do anything Leecher : ~equip communism flag~ LOL Well and literally detailed. LOL!
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asteg
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Post by asteg on Nov 4, 2017 19:20:35 GMT
You know how the first few eps of one piece was basically a friendly kids show and nowadays Zoro slices people in half and nami got alot more plot development? That's pretty much how drastic the change in community is, although alot more backwards
Kish nailed it as far as YouTube goes, everything is pretty samey and boring, even like the few I did are pretty bleh, everyone started doing no pots runs now too, no pots, no protect lv3, no cemetery, no auto attack
Speed hackers/ botters took the feeling out of accomplishment, braggers keep ppl from even wanting to try tho
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