♪Sumire
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Post by ♪Sumire on Sept 13, 2017 7:25:58 GMT
hello guys so recently i wanted to make a bk as a backup plan for my pure stat int samurai but i ended up going all the way from backup to main plan now with the rapid fang skill release , spec sword build players are kinda sad that this skill needs crt to deal high dmg well same here -- so i just tested someting out of curiosity and voila TECH abis and CRT RATE on gears affect rapid fang ... dont expect too much dmg though gears NIO shlingel dex2 ira no up schlingel tech 3 monty up vida , tech 2 acc tech 4 myrica tech2 well its just a test xD but as u see on the ss ..crit rate is still good ..what more if i upped/reup ira and complete tech set lvl 256 stats str 265 vit 330 dex 330 atk with this set and warcry 4.5k yellow apos , 3r 2g no boss Al I also managed to hit 148k but couldnt screenshot it cause maintenance started xD not sure how itll work with a crt dmg set -- and purple apos with full crit dmg boss Al wait -- where did my screenshots go .. didnt notice it till now q.q
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Post by maximo24 on Sept 13, 2017 20:42:12 GMT
Don use slinchgel xt thar one drops crt rate by 10 = -30 crt try to use iniliba insted if you want to use sword i will say if u cant reset stop adding points to vit and just add to crt ans use regular sword
Try to get sauro blade 5 best sword for bk sword at your lv if you cap you will get around to 256 crt that good rate to easy crt and change your xt for sword use grapagos all this xt are expensive bit are the best on armor ultimi raton add raton sp use beelzenoid with that build you can dps and deal great dmg mybe rapid fang around 300k
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♪Sumire
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Summoner new skills pls *-*
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Post by ♪Sumire on Sept 14, 2017 2:35:18 GMT
Don use slinchgel xt thar one drops crt rate by 10 = -30 crt try to use iniliba insted if you want to use sword i will say if u cant reset stop adding points to vit and just add to crt ans use regular sword Try to get sauro blade 5 best sword for bk sword at your lv if you cap you will get around to 256 crt that good rate to easy crt and change your xt for sword use grapagos all this xt are expensive bit are the best on armor ultimi raton add raton sp use beelzenoid with that build you can dps and deal great dmg mybe rapid fang around 300k well its a what if situation though ^^ as for schlingel (i just noticed its a typo - i have minenaga on ira not schlingel) well i dont have anything better yet since schlingel was already on nio even before i got rapid fang (might change to oritius if its price dropped to 30m less again) the idea bout my post though is how u can make a non crt build bk be able to use rapid fang without having to result to change in stat (stefly / or adding to crt stat) and can still use spec sword -- the atk boost from myrica is just too hard to let go xD --while u can still enjoy the aoe grind with tyrant -- i havent seen a regular sword user spamming tyrant yet though so i cant say if it beats spec sword dmg a 2nd page on apos would prove to be useful too (gonna be a long work but ill try to unlock the 2nd page specifically for rapid fang/impact blow) oh btw ive been wondering if the -crt rate from gears will affect tech abis --cause so far with just the set above ive been hitting 6 out of 10 rapid fang as crt dmg - although i also have another set that got higher crt chance lower atk though izumi no up xelysis tech2( no choice this is the only other spec sword i got) dont wanna spend 10m on wound transer (yeah to hell with stall prices) ira no up minenaga tech3 arelta up hp20 tech1 acc tech 4 myrica tech 2 can hit 8/10 critical rapid
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Post by NightBreeze on Sept 14, 2017 9:45:31 GMT
Of course you can increase your crt rate, but your critical multiplier is low without crt. Special sword just isn't right for skills that can crit.
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♪Sumire
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Post by ♪Sumire on Sept 14, 2017 11:10:05 GMT
oh I reviewed it a bit and taking into consideration the negatives
yeah I noticed its not very ideal since ull be spamming mp pots after a few use of rapid , and the DMG isn't that impressive (we'll at least its higher than ur tyrant ...or in my case my tyrant , 70k tyrant , rapid 148k in max range)
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♪Sumire
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Post by ♪Sumire on Sept 14, 2017 11:22:23 GMT
oh I just thinked of a situation which will involve sacrificing statsneed to run a test though spec sword atk gain is very high since it gains atk from vit , dex, str ...and as a bonus u also gain atk from myrica then the issue is that CRT decreases by -1 atk/CRT , using my current atk value as an example ..stats lvl 280str 300 = 300 atkvit 330 140*= 520 x 2 = 1040 atkdex 300 x 1.5 = 150 atk total with no buffs and multipliers = 1490 atk (* 140 vit from myrica boost at lvl 280)since atk drops by 1 per CRT and at 256 CRT we get 90% CRT rate right? not sure on multiplier then 1490 - 256 = 1134 atk left not sure how much atk will be reduced once I put a total 256 crt on stat since no idea if the reduction is calculated with or without multipliers but anyways u won't lose too much but ull gain a greater boost on DMG with rapid fang and impact blow
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Post by 'AhSaN' on Sept 14, 2017 12:35:01 GMT
♪Sumire So, you have decided to stick with Beast Knight? (I didn't understand what you said before). And OMG, this much damage being a Spec Sword!? I'm really really jelous now e.e
Edit : If Rapid Fang can Stun, I think Geo Monk and Beast Knight will be a great combination, wouldn't it? Beast Knight would just spam Rapid Fang and stun the enemy and continue using it's skills, Geo Breaker will handle the Damage, And Beast Knight would tank, Geo has good heal, Reactive heal and Healing increasing HP and MP recovery and more.
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Post by addictux on Sept 14, 2017 14:17:43 GMT
♪Sumire So, you have decided to stick with Beast Knight? (I didn't understand what you said before). And OMG, this much damage being a Spec Sword!? I'm really really jelous now e.e
Edit : If Rapid Fang can Stun, I think Geo Monk and Beast Knight will be a great combination, wouldn't it? Beast Knight would just spam Rapid Fang and stun the enemy and continue using it's skills, Geo Breaker will handle the Damage, And Beast Knight would tank, Geo has good heal, Reactive heal and Healing increasing HP and MP recovery and more. I experience using rf for a day before I give up my tyrant spammer and leave it then make a samu instead haha. Well what I wanna say is it doesn't deal high and I don't feel like it stun if up close. Rf deal higher and possible to stun if afar. Bit bk combo seems interesting but in many vids I saw none use it up close. I recreate my bk to normal sword and wtf how do I get sauro blade l5 haha.
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Post by 'AhSaN' on Sept 14, 2017 16:10:24 GMT
addictux , If i just say about the stun rate. Can you give me just an sample example of the stun rate of Rapid Fang? (x/10) Maybe it might not deal that much damage, But we can definately use the tanking capability of the Beast Knight. Can't we? Just the stun rate should be good, Can't imagine *^* With a BK+Geo+Sin, the Party will be so awesome! (Vulnerable too).
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♪Sumire
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Summoner new skills pls *-*
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Post by ♪Sumire on Sept 14, 2017 21:08:26 GMT
hmm in a scale of 10 I'd say 6/10 for max distance and 3/10 for close up
ill do some test run on 3i after I finished mq
oh btw BKs vitalize + guard is a very big help on pt
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Post by 'AhSaN' on Sept 15, 2017 5:47:25 GMT
With my planned equipments, I'm expecting to have Magic R +92%. And Melee R +22%. I think it will be a good combo party if the Vitalize and Guard can be mixed up. I will also gain a lot amount of Melee R. And My Asura and Purity's DEF will help me receive less damage. I think it will be great having this setup :
Beast Knight = Buffs and Tanks Geo Monk (My setup) = Damage and Buffs Assassin = Stun, Buff and Damage Minstrel = Dream, Passion, Nostalgia, Life. Dragnewt will be more better.
That way, a Tank will exist, with good buffs to help the Party. Monk will be good at damaging and a Backup MP using Bless for everyone. Reactive heal to all users for Backup HP (INT users will be getting more heal). Assassin will be stunning the PT, allowing the Geo Monk to keep up with it's Geo Breaker. Minstrel will use the songs and maintain DPS + MP in the party. Since all of us are ATK type, the minstrel can also join the kill. (Geo can heal good if Minstrel has HP lower than 15k).
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Post by addictux on Sept 15, 2017 11:20:33 GMT
Lol idk what to say though I am str Dex vit type with no CRT and no CRT on gears and AI so I don't deal high dmg RF than those normal sword (using izu@max daja) for dtun rate from afar 5/10 for up close 2/10 for me since I think more CRT more chances of stunning cause I saw on many bk uses RF on bosses they have high CRT and about 80%-90% stun rate.
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Post by 'AhSaN' on Sept 16, 2017 11:44:53 GMT
So, addictux Do they have ability to tank good? Like taking away hate fast from DPS Squishy classes?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 6:44:56 GMT
♪Sumire So, you have decided to stick with Beast Knight? (I didn't understand what you said before). And OMG, this much damage being a Spec Sword!? I'm really really jelous now e.e
Edit : If Rapid Fang can Stun, I think Geo Monk and Beast Knight will be a great combination, wouldn't it? Beast Knight would just spam Rapid Fang and stun the enemy and continue using it's skills, Geo Breaker will handle the Damage, And Beast Knight would tank, Geo has good heal, Reactive heal and Healing increasing HP and MP recovery and more. The stunning idea isn't really something to rely with. Its more of last resort in PT. 1)Stun do not overwrite or stack with another stun However, its always 5 seconds if successfully stunned. 2)You have to run 2-3s to reach the max range you have to travel for next rapid fang. (If the target is stunned and its range attacker) 3)As distance travel plays as a factor for your stun rate, if a boss is quick runner like cordal then mostly you can execute short distance fangs only (but that doesnt mean you cannot stun anymore) 4)Must learn the positioning bug of RF's stun, especially when target is stunned and continued to run to approach you. The original position of your target will be the place where it got stunned. Once the stun has worn out, the original position of the target will be the place where it ends up running while it is stunned.
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Post by addictux on Sept 18, 2017 12:35:41 GMT
So, addictux Do they have ability to tank good? Like taking away hate fast from DPS Squishy classes? for high stun rate it could be safe for others, and bk can actually tank but it would take lv300+ to do a good ranking. Bit if lv260+ skill released maybe lv280 good enough to tank. And if taking away aggro bk have provoke too you know o.o (but bk can't heal).
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