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Post by Owe on Aug 14, 2017 2:45:18 GMT
So I had this wild idea of a special claw paladin last night and I've been trying to think how to work out the rough edges of the build lol I haven't really ever played pally so I wanted to know what others thought. How do you think the first hit damage would do with this?? o.o/ Option #1 balance it Stats - Str=Crt=Vit>100 red line Equips Purity Grapagos Schwermer Muscle Tomato (rip ;-  Lud Raton Chief God stone Telon Als - Merario Vatendeth Octocur Vulschem And either halios or malti Guardian is broke into two parts an atk part and an hp part and I'm assuming that the atk part is the one that receives the critical. That being said this build is focused on being tanky as well. Figured the set is built for two things, a big first hit and a decent oath hit but again I'm a pally nub  Option #2 full powah 9*^*)9 Str=Crt>Dex=Vit>green line Equips Stake knuckle 2 (same stats as no up but has atk+10%) grapagos Ultimi re/boo iniliba Monty raton Chief God stone/heavy dmg spec noid Al crysta Teo Gk Merario Vatendeth Malti?? Idk Pretty much the idea behind this one is to go for the attack portion for much higher damage. The problems with this one is #1 adding Dex means lowering another stat, this time vit had to take the a hit #2 doesn't use a shield like option one #1 I decided to use evasion from green lines to make up for less vit. It's not really a problem except for reliability (if I evade 2/10 hits vs being able to take 2 more hits I'm not really loosing anything at least that's my logic). Of course theoretically this build would hit harder than option #1 Anyway that's my thoughts, can I get an expert pally to help out?? Lol |
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Post by blazer on Aug 14, 2017 4:40:54 GMT
what!!! guardian do critical damage???mine never done critical damage owo
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Post by (0_0) on Aug 14, 2017 5:14:51 GMT
I'm pretty sure that Guardian don't crit. Remember not all attack skill can crit (AR don't crit, magic blade atk part too if I'm not wrong). On the other hand Stun Parry damage is based on crit damage so the build can still work.
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Post by MITS:Servant on Aug 14, 2017 5:41:14 GMT
I'm pretty sure that Guardian don't crit. Remember not all attack skill can crit (AR don't crit, magic blade atk part too if I'm not wrong). On the other hand Stun Parry damage is based on crit damage so the build can still work. guardian do crt when u have HIDE attack. Thats why the op thread title is spec.claw+HIDE+guardian. Owe your build is doable, but spec.sword is still the best imo. Im no expert pally but i do have a good amount of knowledge with stat building and equip. Good day. |
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Post by maximo24 on Aug 14, 2017 5:47:14 GMT
I alredy did that build before bro and to be honest the dmg is similar to using regular sword the dif is u have more options using regular swords so u can deal more damg ussing the oath
2nd the survivability it get way lower then sword so you going to ended up like bow paladin great atk but low defence and paladin is mento to tank
3 oath or guardian doesnt critical so you dont need xtails that bost crt you need only boost raw atk to deal more dmg assault skill from pets will help guardian just the 1st hit i have rhat skill and the next skills will be regular hits
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Yazmat
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Post by Yazmat on Aug 14, 2017 9:18:14 GMT
what!!! guardian do critical damage???mine never done critical damage owo The ATK based part of Guardian is affected by Hide Attack pet skill |
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Post by blazer on Aug 14, 2017 9:35:32 GMT
what!!! guardian do critical damage???mine never done critical damage owo The ATK based part of Guardian is affected by Hide Attack pet skill so how does it work? guardian attack will be critical? |
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Post by Yazmat on Aug 14, 2017 9:46:02 GMT
The ATK based part of Guardian is affected by Hide Attack pet skill so how does it work? guardian attack will be critical? Instead of doing 30k you do 40k damage first hit only. But if your attack is high you might do better than that |
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Post by blazer on Aug 14, 2017 10:21:34 GMT
so how does it work? guardian attack will be critical? Instead of doing 30k you do 40k damage first hit only. But if your attack is high you might do better than that white damage or orange?it has to be orange for critical damage or hide attack only increase white damage? |
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Post by Yazmat on Aug 14, 2017 10:56:32 GMT
Instead of doing 30k you do 40k damage first hit only. But if your attack is high you might do better than that white damage or orange?it has to be orange for critical damage or hide attack only increase white damage? Hide attack doesn't increase critical hit, hide attack is much more complicated than that... just don't take it as a skill that only guarantees the first hit to be a critical hit and it will all make sense... And no it's not orange it's white damage guardian even with increased damage from Hide |
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Post by Owe on Aug 14, 2017 16:27:35 GMT
Ok so makes sense, probably wouldn't go with a spec claw anymore considering that it wouldn't have much affect on damage but it'd lower survivability. So what about: Ele swords Bellow telon Monty ele xtals Slot spec telon I'm kinda iffy on the ele xtals but I already have a set soooo... was wondering has anyone ever tried ele xtals in comparison to like vida or telon and how much damage difference was it |
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Post by NightBreeze on Aug 14, 2017 18:45:27 GMT
3 oath or guardian doesnt critical so you dont need xtails that bost crt you need only boost raw atk to deal more dmg assault skill from pets will help guardian just the 1st hit i have rhat skill and the next skills will be regular hits It's not Assault, it's Hide Attack. Assault is an active skill that penetrates enemy def and does little dmg. You made the same mistake in a video of yours: |
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Post by Yazmat on Aug 14, 2017 20:44:38 GMT
Ok so makes sense, probably wouldn't go with a spec claw anymore considering that it wouldn't have much affect on damage but it'd lower survivability. So what about: Ele swords Bellow telon Monty ele xtals Slot spec telon I'm kinda iffy on the ele xtals but I already have a set soooo... was wondering has anyone ever tried ele xtals in comparison to like vida or telon and how much damage difference was it This is basically what is used for Oath, but for Guardian Telon will hurt your spaming |
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Post by Owe on Aug 15, 2017 2:29:56 GMT
This is basically what is used for Oath, but for Guardian Telon will hurt your spaming ah I see so iniliba is probably the best choice then. Next question if you don't mind xD. Crt probably adds quite a bit of damage to this build, however I can't use special swords if I use crt. So what swords would you recommend for a tank/hp set. Was thinking a sauro l5 but I'm not sure xD |
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Post by Yazmat on Aug 15, 2017 4:59:00 GMT
This is basically what is used for Oath, but for Guardian Telon will hurt your spaming ah I see so iniliba is probably the best choice then. Next question if you don't mind xD. Crt probably adds quite a bit of damage to this build, however I can't use special swords if I use crt. So what swords would you recommend for a tank/hp set. Was thinking a sauro l5 but I'm not sure xD CRT doesn't affect guardian nor it affects oath and neither does critical damage + gear. Both skills doesn't critical. You should only use normal swords for their elemental adventage (if you have overcaped str and dex) or for some special build or stat (like legacy of will for his atk by agi if you are agi build... or like me I use vermilion III for rate cut set) |
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