Yazmat
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Pally Lv351 | Alchy Lv318
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Post by Yazmat on Jul 5, 2017 12:59:27 GMT
I am genuinely sorry if you were really legit but here are a few things: 1.) No one would ever accept a 4b trade and get the item in the last trade. That is extremely dodgy and everyone in that GC agreed. 2.) When you were given a reasonable offer (in this case, a reasonable way of trading - I told you I will trade you 1b+3b worth of items - in demand specs. I have ROR, MWS and WMR, specs that are really easy to sell. I told you I will buy back the items so you so you will still end up with 4b), you decided to kick me and everyone. You made yourself look like you are not legit. That's super dodgy, man. You never said in the GC to go to Pub1, you just kicked us all. 3.) You do not trust any midman or any of the other players. Of course, I am going to rub in that I cannot trust anyone fresh from MQ too. That's a Level280 character. LOL. Point is, if you do not trust others, others do not trust you too. In a trade that is not 2-way, you will really get suspected if you act dodgy. My apologies if you weren't a scammer but everyone else in that GC judged so because what we saw was dodgy. PS. If it really was legit, IDK why my offer was rejected and the GC was closed. That gave me my final conclusion. No. Everyone judged so because of STFU<3 and you. Don't try the "everyone was in on it too" bs when YOU could've came to check yourself. Not stand far away and just blast me with scammer tags. Lol. I'm done. Before this goes any further. I'M A SCAMMER EVERYONE, EAYSLEY MADE IT PUBLIC THAT I AM ONE. DON'T EVER BUY OR SELL TO ME BECAUSE HE AND EVERYONE ELSE APPARENTLY SAYS I AM FOR NOT TRUSTING THEIR PEOPLE. A GREAT WAY FOR SCAMMERS TO START USING THIS SYSTEM BECAUSE IT IS RELIABLE. It's not about selling it. I'm here to defend myself from being called a scammer because a max lvl everything gladiator says so so it must be true bs. This is literally posted on fb by this person and has come to my attention. I don't have a dàmn Facebook because my wife won't let me. Found out through the buyer that someone was posting slander on me for the gc bs show Eaysley and them pulled on me. Got a problem? Take a little bit of your maxed out self to come check. Or too good for that too? Btw Yaz, need to pm you about some info for your paladin tread. By all means, you are innocent then. Why so defensive? About the level - that was to emphasize to you that no one will accept a dodgy trade like that. Just to be clear - I did not post that on Facebook. Whoever posted that was someone else from that GC. You have to admit what you did back there was suspicious. LOL Anyway, good luck finding a buyer to trade you three empty 1b's. If that really was the case, then again, my apologies if I thought you were a scammer. It looked like one to me. There is no need to continue this discussion guys, everyone has a point, Eaysley has a point for you acting weird, and Random.Num.Generator has a point for just coming here and defending himself... No one got scammed right? so let's forget about this. |
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Eaysley
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"These violent delights have violent ends."
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Post by Eaysley on Jul 5, 2017 13:07:52 GMT
No. Everyone judged so because of STFU<3 and you. Don't try the "everyone was in on it too" bs when YOU could've came to check yourself. Not stand far away and just blast me with scammer tags. Lol. I'm done. Before this goes any further. I'M A SCAMMER EVERYONE, EAYSLEY MADE IT PUBLIC THAT I AM ONE. DON'T EVER BUY OR SELL TO ME BECAUSE HE AND EVERYONE ELSE APPARENTLY SAYS I AM FOR NOT TRUSTING THEIR PEOPLE. A GREAT WAY FOR SCAMMERS TO START USING THIS SYSTEM BECAUSE IT IS RELIABLE. By all means, you are innocent then. Why so defensive? About the level - that was to emphasize to you that no one will accept a dodgy trade like that. Just to be clear - I did not post that on Facebook. Whoever posted that was someone else from that GC. You have to admit what you did back there was suspicious. LOL Anyway, good luck finding a buyer to trade you three empty 1b's. If that really was the case, then again, my apologies if I thought you were a scammer. It looked like one to me. There is no need to continue this discussion guys, everyone has a point, Eaysley has a point for you acting weird, and Random.Num.Generator has a point for just coming here and defending himself... No one got scammed right? so let's forget about this. S) 2s Nio Sword 4b - I want three empty 1b trades first. You'll get the sword in the last trade. LOL Yeah, noone got scammed. I don't think anyone with 4b spina will do that unless you have a really trust the midman. I mean I believe Random.Num.Generator I farmed with the guy. Seems like a genuinely nice player. I wish him the best of luck selling. Just wanted to clear my name that I never posted anything about that on Facebook. LOL  Maybe the others from that GC will. |
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Post by Random.Num.Generator on Jul 5, 2017 13:09:54 GMT
And of any of you had the decency to scroll up. I got fed up with it when his supposed midman never showed. And yeah, I asked for it by saying to bring them way before you came on and started pouring more oil on what he started. I'm sorry, you're so innocent and I'm not. But to not show up to look after I said if anyone doesn't believe to come look for themselves. Obviously, you're too good to do so and only came on to spur it up. And also because of people like you, I've had to sell items for a lowered value to a kinder person who ignores you and your people's scammer tagging everyone because you don't want to put in the extra work of tping to town and coming to check it out. And lastly, I have a funny feeling like you're getting excited seems reply to your claims of me being one just by how you're saying things. "Like oh my gosh, he actually came on to defend himself." Yeah, get your high elsewhere instead of trying to push another beta player away. Want proof? Come and I'll spread my little Wings for you to see.
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Eaysley
Community Contributor
"These violent delights have violent ends."
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Post by Eaysley on Jul 5, 2017 13:11:54 GMT
And of any of you had the decency to scroll up. I got fed up with it when his supposed midman never showed. And yeah, I asked for it by saying to bring them way before you came on and started pouring more oil on what he started. I'm sorry, you're so innocent and I'm not. But to not show up to look after I said if anyone doesn't believe to come look for themselves. Obviously, you're too good to do so and only came on to spur it up. And also because of people like you, I've had to sell items for a lowered value to a kinder person who ignores you and your people's scammer tagging everyone because you don't want to put in the extra work of tping to town and coming to check it out. And lastly, I have a funny feeling like you're getting excited seems reply to your claims of me being one just by how you're saying things. "Like oh my gosh, he actually came on to defend himself." Yeah, get your high elsewhere instead of trying to push another beta player away. Want proof? Come and I'll spread my little Wings for you to see.  |
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Eaysley
Community Contributor
"These violent delights have violent ends."
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Post by Eaysley on Jul 5, 2017 13:16:36 GMT
lacs - Can you kindly lock this? I think things are starting to get heated and we don't really want that here. Also scamming seems like a touchy subject. I kinda regret making this thread. Maybe I'll make a more positive discussion. Thanks.
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Post by dontmindme on Jul 5, 2017 13:22:42 GMT
Ignoring the discussion about being a scammer and dodgy trades,
Scamming is very common in rokoko and I've seen some of the old and fresh ways of scamming in the older days of iruna.
P.S. I'm too careful when trading so I've never been scammed for items. I've been scammed in mq service so now I sell anti-scam mq service. (kill before pay) since killing something will only cost a walk and a few consumables while spina while buying mq is too easy to scam this way.
BACK TO SCAMZ:
1.) Dorry xtal and Dorry teleport - The classic simple scams. Too bad I'm too attentive to fall for it.
2.) 10m <cancel> -> 1m - Another simple scam of adding and subtracting zeros. Always check before accepting.
3.) Saltus -> Sablem - The name change similar trick. A very easy way of tricking.
4.) Muramasa+9 max slot - Check the attack, refinement and make sure it's not a masamune. Also, know your max attack before trying these. Seriously.
5.) Huge Cherry Blossom Up - Not sure if it's up or not? Better to know your stats before getting scammed with a no up.
6.) Bat Wings - Not a very creative scam that I saw way back when there were three servers. Collectibles don't really scam people.
7.) G.ring ganei -> G.ring vit+1 - Always check the xtals attached. Cancels are usually scam when it comes to these.
8.) Magic abi -> Mdef abi - Again, check before you accept.
9.) This costs 90m in stalls - STOP. If the item is in demand then usually all the reasonable prices and a little above it are bought quite quickly.
10.) Jet Black Liquid - Don't press accept after reading the first word. Make sure your Jet Black Feather is actually there.
11.) Pay first - Seriously? Do people even fall for this?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2017 14:15:44 GMT
Gonna put myself inside the arena qwq
From what I read, it seems that Random.Num.Generator was trying to make Eaysley come to Rokoko to confirm whether his Izumi 2s is legit.
Eaysley, on the other hand, didn't like how Random.Num.Generator wanted three 1b trades first before getting Izumi 2s because it's fishy, and apparently everyone in the gc agrees.
The misunderstanding then starts.
The fact is that Random.Num.Generator's Izumi 2s is legit, but his way of trading is fishy and could indeed be a scam (even though it's not). Eaysley then offers another form of trade, which is to give 1b and some slotted specs worth 3b total. This could be done in one trade if Random.Num.Generator decides to keep the specs, or 3-4 trades if things went as Eaysley planned, making it fair whichever way it went. I'm not sure what else happened, but apparently Random.Num.Generator kicked everyone in the gc.
Some bystander then put more oil to the fire by posting about the incident on fb, ruining Random.Num.Generator's credibility. He assumes that the person who posted is Eaysley, when in fact he has nothing to do with it. Random.Num.Generator had no choice but to sell the item for a lower price with someone who was willing to trade his way.
And now we're here in this thread. Did I miss anything o.o?
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Post by isntjoaquim on Jul 6, 2017 0:33:51 GMT
I was selling something in rkk a month ago, got a party inv from 2 guys, the leader was asking me to exchange universe for 3 knight soul fragments. I said yes, and the second dude on pt sent me trade, with 3 knight sword fragments. Declined, then he said "ele recusou que raiva"(in portuguese, it means "he refused, what anger", they didnt expected that i speak portuguese. I just cursed both and left their pt, but few minutes ago another person selling universe got scammed by them. Now i always join his gp looking for guild members, join his guild, tell everyone that hes a scammer and send a screnshoot where they wer trying to scam me, they never give me any answer, just kick x3 i know it doesnt solve anything, but i feel so satisfied
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EP Opheia
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Bishop / Dec. 2013-April 2018
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Post by EP Opheia on Jul 6, 2017 2:18:06 GMT
Locked upon request.
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