AianLacruzel
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Post by AianLacruzel on Jun 22, 2017 22:19:19 GMT
During some back and forth with Kamisama about LGE's effect, I decided to ask Asobimo directly about this. My question was: "Is the Death Revival/Prevention effect of the consumable item Light Green Egg an intended hidden effect or a bug?"Rejoice, Kamisama! I have just received a reply that the hidden effect is indeed a LEGITIMATE game mechanic. For those curious, my stance was that it was a possible bug. Needless to say, I 180ed now. I understand that me saying this is not proof of anything, I would like to post a screenshot here, however, Asobimo disallows it. I am also not willing to share my email address with anyone so forwarding is not an option. Next time, I'll ask them why they still allow rooted phones knowing there's a proliferation of hackers in Asobimo games. https://www.instagram.com/p/BVqLQbLHZag
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Kamisama
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Post by Kamisama on Jun 22, 2017 22:27:15 GMT
During some back and forth with @kamisamatomegamineesama about LGE's effect, I decided to ask Asobimo directly about this. My question was: "Is the Death Revival/Prevention effect of the consumable item Light Green Egg an intended hidden effect or a bug?"Rejoice, @kamisamatomegamineesama! I have just received a reply that the hidden effect is indeed a LEGITIMATE game mechanic. For those curious, my stance was that it was a possible bug. Needless to say, I 180ed now. I understand that me saying this is not proof of anything, I would like to post a screenshot here, however, Asobimo disallows it. I am also not willing to share my email address with anyone so forwarding is not an option. Next time, I'll ask them why they still allow rooted phones knowing there's a proliferation of hackers in Asobimo games. thank you so much aian i am so glad i dont have to change to sk magic ninja and make a guide about it called smartmage sk magic ninja using ausfea al crysta during ignition as alternative cancel defeat method XD and this is already enough proof as we know you are skeptic until confirmed and the asking asobimo yourself and confirming is proof on to itself thank you very much ^^
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2017 2:23:48 GMT
Nice to know it is legit. as everytime there are someone who denied the use of LGE another pot for solo. I been using this on all my agi character to pass mq very smoothly without paying single spina for mq. e.e
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Post by Kamisama on Jun 23, 2017 3:46:04 GMT
Nice to know it is legit. as everytime there are someone who denied the use of LGE another pot for solo. I been using this on all my agi character to pass mq very smoothly without paying single spina for mq. e.e i agree XD i am also glad its legit i also used them for mq solo and solo farming and even made a guide that teaches its usage it is an awsome pot for many situations that calls for it such as soloing a boss you were stuck on that noone wants to help or has time to or solo farming said boss that has stuff you need but noone wants to farm with you on and many more situations this pots can be useful and awsome in and it could be further supplemented with quickuses and delay al crystas,resistance set,item delay equips,and high evasion depending on your class and setups and stats ^^
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2017 5:30:54 GMT
I gotta say, for 4 years I've avoided using LGE cuz I thought Asobimo wouldn't make an item like that. A door to a whole collection of strategies just opened up for me
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AianLacruzel
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Post by AianLacruzel on Jun 23, 2017 9:45:16 GMT
I still believe it's OP. Glass Cannons just became legitimate soloers. But there are worse things to complain about - such as hackers and botters.
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Post by Kamisama on Jun 23, 2017 11:58:05 GMT
I still believe it's OP. Glass Cannons just became legitimate soloers. But there are worse things to complain about - such as hackers and botters. i dont see anything to complain about its better than them quitting or complaining and annoying many other people just because they cant get through certain battles and noone seems to cares enough about them(in the persons perspectives and in most realities true as we know the hard way people arent usually polite or kind as it seems on forums there are 10000s people ingame afterall so just what seems like alot of those other people to those persons for example 30 or more can be cruel enough to lead to those persons perspective) to help the persons in question out or otherwise those persons might complain around about oh how people dont want to help them with this or that and it often leads to them being kicked out of guilds or just blacklisted or just outright further hated by more people they annoyed the heck out of you agree? and besides asobimo gave us pets which is the first sign they support solos as well as party so this doesnt seem much difference other than make the solo twice as fast and you gotta remember party is 4 to 5 times faster than even spamming lges throughout battle and 8 to 9 times faster than purely pet solo so even hardcore lge users like myself and some others just solo bosses for one or few time things like just mq or skill quests but if farming i party with other people when i want to get something high value from the same really high hp bosses for spina making such as say struggler from leviam ouvel al crystal bellow of order from gatekeeper and more you see and for those other 2 yep hacking and botting is very bad and should be the 2 focus of complaints XD
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AianLacruzel
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Post by AianLacruzel on Jun 23, 2017 12:36:12 GMT
I still believe it's OP. Glass Cannons just became legitimate soloers. But there are worse things to complain about - such as hackers and botters. i dont see anything to complain about its better than them quitting because they cant get through certain battles and noone seems to cares enough about them(in their perspectives and in most realities true as we know the hard way people arent often polite or kind as it seems on forums there are 10000s people afterall so alot can be cruel enough to lead to this perspective) to help them out or complain around about oh how people dont want to help them with this or that(often leads to being kicked out of guilds or just blacklisted)you agree? and besides asobimo gave us pets supporting solos so this doesnt seem much difference other than make the solo twice as fast and you gotta remember party is 4 times faster than even spamming lges throughout battle so even hardcore LGE users like myself just solo boss for things like just mq but if i farm i party with other people when i want to get something high value from the same high hp bosses for spina making such as say struggler from leviam ouvel al crystal bellow of order from gatekeeper and more you see and for those other 2 yep hacking and botting is very bad and should be the 2 topics of complaints XD I don't want Iruna to be dumbed down even more (in reference to our new dumbed down maps) just to accomodate quitters who will quit no matter what. AGI and VIT exist for a reason. LGE don't have much difference with pets? 1. Every second you remain dead is zero DPS. Remain dead for 2s out of 5 and your DPS for 5s will only be 60%. In other words -40% DPS. Now think of how much you spend on Al/Crysta just to get that additional 3~6% MATK. 2. If timed perfectly, a pet can revive you up to 6 times in a row, immediately one after another. You need to pay Coins to do so. In comparison, a stk of LGE does 99 "revives" a in a row. When I think about bosses, I think beyond existing bosses. In the most difficult boss fight imaginable, where killing it once is enough (quest req), LGE immortality will be a big factor.
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Post by Kamisama on Jun 23, 2017 12:39:45 GMT
i dont see anything to complain about its better than them quitting because they cant get through certain battles and noone seems to cares enough about them(in their perspectives and in most realities true as we know the hard way people arent often polite or kind as it seems on forums there are 10000s people afterall so alot can be cruel enough to lead to this perspective) to help them out or complain around about oh how people dont want to help them with this or that(often leads to being kicked out of guilds or just blacklisted)you agree? and besides asobimo gave us pets supporting solos so this doesnt seem much difference other than make the solo twice as fast and you gotta remember party is 4 times faster than even spamming lges throughout battle so even hardcore LGE users like myself just solo boss for things like just mq but if i farm i party with other people when i want to get something high value from the same high hp bosses for spina making such as say struggler from leviam ouvel al crystal bellow of order from gatekeeper and more you see and for those other 2 yep hacking and botting is very bad and should be the 2 topics of complaints XD I don't want Iruna to be dumbed down even more (in reference to our new dumbed down maps) just to accomodate quitters who will quit no matter what. AGI and VIT exist for a reason. LGE don't have much difference with pets? 1. Every second you remain dead is zero DPS. Remain dead for 2s out of 5 and your DPS for 5s will only be 60%. In other words -40% DPS. Now think of how much you spend on Al/Crysta just to get that additional 3~6% MATK. 2. If timed perfectly, a pet can revive you up to 6 times in a row, immediately one after another. You need to pay Coins to do so. In comparison, a stk of LGE does 99 "revives" a in a row. When I think about bosses, I think beyond existing bosses. In the most difficult boss fight imaginable, where killing it once is enough (quest req), LGE immortality will be a big factor. aian i just editted this in earlier while you may have been numbering your explanations XD (((gotta remember party is 4 to 5 times faster than even spamming lges throughout battle and 8 to 9 times faster than purely pet solo so even hardcore lge users like myself and some others just solo bosses for one or few time things like just mq or skill quests but if farming i party with other people when i want to get something high value from the same really high hp bosses for spina making such as say struggler from leviam ouvel al crystal bellow of order from gatekeeper and more you see and for those other 2 yep hacking and botting is very bad and should be the 2 focus of complaints XD))) and this concerns really high hp bosses like some high tier episode 3+ to 4+ and beyond you see ^^
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Post by Kamisama on Jun 23, 2017 12:48:06 GMT
I don't want Iruna to be dumbed down even more (in reference to our new dumbed down maps) just to accomodate quitters who will quit no matter what. AGI and VIT exist for a reason. LGE don't have much difference with pets? 1. Every second you remain dead is zero DPS. Remain dead for 2s out of 5 and your DPS for 5s will only be 60%. In other words -40% DPS. Now think of how much you spend on Al/Crysta just to get that additional 3~6% MATK. 2. If timed perfectly, a pet can revive you up to 6 times in a row, immediately one after another. You need to pay Coins to do so. In comparison, a stk of LGE does 99 "revives" a in a row. When I think about bosses, I think beyond existing bosses. In the most difficult boss fight imaginable, where killing it once is enough (quest req), LGE immortality will be a big factor. aian i just editted this in earlier while you may have been numbering your reasons XD (((gotta remember party is 4 to 5 times faster than even spamming lges throughout battle and 8 to 9 times faster than purely pet solo so even hardcore lge users like myself and some others just solo bosses for one or few time things like just mq or skill quests but if farming i party with other people when i want to get something high value from the same really high hp bosses for spina making such as say struggler from leviam ouvel al crystal bellow of order from gatekeeper and more you see and for those other 2 yep hacking and botting is very bad and should be the 2 focus of complaints XD))) and this concerns really high hp bosses like some high tier episode 3+ to 4+ and beyond you see ^^ and i cant even imagine solo farming super high hp bosses(say 6m to 12m and possibley much higher in future like 25m or more hp) for 500+ times that would take like 25+ to 40+ or even a whole lot more stacks of lges like say 120 or more stacks(2500 to 4000 or even alot more about 12000 or more lges)not to mention the time per kill(3 or more minutes and in future maybe 6 or alot more minutes)especially with all those nasty boss induced effects and by the time i get to 100 kills solo i could have got 500 or 2000 or more kills in a party(about 1 in half to 2 to 3 or even more hours) or if 500 in solo it would be about 2000 to 20000 in party x.x(5hours to 8 or more hours) that would explain why i say LGES WOULD ONLY BE USED FOR A ONE TO FEW TIME OCCASIONS THINGS LIKE MQS OR TO BE TAUGHT IN GUIDES AND BOSS UNCOMMONS COLLECTING SOLO AND (((IMPORTANTLY THAT FARMING WITH A PARTY ON THOSE SAME BOSSES FOR RARE DROPS AFTER YOU HAVE PASSED THEM AS MQ IS A FAR FAR BETTER CHOICE)))and its much easier on your thumbs and also your not having to farm or buy 2500 or astronomically much higher amounts of the lge pots like 12000+ and not to mention PARTY KILLING THOSE SUPER HIGH HP BOSSES ARE MUCH MUCH QUICKER AND FAR FAR EASIER you see we gotta THINK OF EVERYTHING ON A GRAND AND UNBIASED SCALE AND NOT JUST A FEW BIASED THINGS TO SEE THE BIG PICTURE and the feasability convenience worth to effort of the stuff action time things take to do etc and sorry for caps just highlighting the most important points you see ^^
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Post by bikini on Jun 23, 2017 14:51:14 GMT
6m-12m hp with 2hw/ninja mins and bish is 10-12 secs farm.
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Post by Kamisama on Jun 23, 2017 15:37:02 GMT
6m-12m hp with 2hw/ninja mins and bish is 10-12 secs farm. thank you for proving my point that lge usage while it is confirmed legitimate it is best used for certain occasions such as mq solos or helping others in mq and that after you passed the mqs and intend to farm the bosses a full well prepared party is much easier and faster and more efficient like this earlier post explained ^^ ((((and i cant even imagine solo farming super high hp bosses(say 6m to 12m and possibley much higher in future like 25m or more hp) for 500+ times that would take like 25+ to 40+ or even a whole lot more stacks of lges like say 120 or more stacks(2500 to 4000 or even alot more about 12000 or more lges)not to mention the time per kill(3 or more minutes and in future maybe 6 or alot more minutes)especially with all those nasty boss induced effects and by the time i get to 100 kills solo i could have got 500 or 2000 or more kills in a party(about 1 in half to 2 to 3 or even more hours) or if 500 in solo it would be about 2000 to 20000 in party x.x(5hours to 8 or more hours) that would explain why i say LGES WOULD ONLY BE USED FOR A ONE TO FEW TIME OCCASIONS THINGS LIKE MQS OR TO BE TAUGHT IN GUIDES AND BOSS UNCOMMONS COLLECTING SOLO AND (((IMPORTANTLY THAT FARMING WITH A PARTY ON THOSE SAME BOSSES FOR RARE DROPS AFTER YOU HAVE PASSED THEM AS MQ IS A FAR FAR BETTER CHOICE)))and its much easier on your thumbs and also your not having to farm or buy 2500 or astronomically much higher amounts of the lge pots like 12000+ and not to mention PARTY KILLING THOSE SUPER HIGH HP BOSSES ARE MUCH MUCH QUICKER AND FAR FAR EASIER you see we gotta THINK OF EVERYTHING ON A GRAND AND UNBIASED SCALE AND NOT JUST A FEW BIASED THINGS TO SEE THE BIG PICTURE and the feasability convenience worth to effort of the stuff action time things take to do etc and sorry for caps just highlighting the most important points you see ^^))))
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AianLacruzel
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Post by AianLacruzel on Jun 24, 2017 7:40:43 GMT
6m-12m hp with 2hw/ninja mins and bish is 10-12 secs farm. thank you for proving my point that lge usage while it is confirmed legitimate it is best used for certain occasions such as mq solos or helping others in mq and that after you passed the mqs and intend to farm the bosses a full well prepared party is much easier and faster and more efficient like this earlier post explained ^^ ((((and i cant even imagine solo farming super high hp bosses(say 6m to 12m and possibley much higher in future like 25m or more hp) for 500+ times that would take like 25+ to 40+ or even a whole lot more stacks of lges like say 120 or more stacks(2500 to 4000 or even alot more about 12000 or more lges)not to mention the time per kill(3 or more minutes and in future maybe 6 or alot more minutes)especially with all those nasty boss induced effects and by the time i get to 100 kills solo i could have got 500 or 2000 or more kills in a party(about 1 in half to 2 to 3 or even more hours) or if 500 in solo it would be about 2000 to 20000 in party x.x(5hours to 8 or more hours) that would explain why i say LGES WOULD ONLY BE USED FOR A ONE TO FEW TIME OCCASIONS THINGS LIKE MQS OR TO BE TAUGHT IN GUIDES AND BOSS UNCOMMONS COLLECTING SOLO AND (((IMPORTANTLY THAT FARMING WITH A PARTY ON THOSE SAME BOSSES FOR RARE DROPS AFTER YOU HAVE PASSED THEM AS MQ IS A FAR FAR BETTER CHOICE)))and its much easier on your thumbs and also your not having to farm or buy 2500 or astronomically much higher amounts of the lge pots like 12000+ and not to mention PARTY KILLING THOSE SUPER HIGH HP BOSSES ARE MUCH MUCH QUICKER AND FAR FAR EASIER you see we gotta THINK OF EVERYTHING ON A GRAND AND UNBIASED SCALE AND NOT JUST A FEW BIASED THINGS TO SEE THE BIG PICTURE and the feasability convenience worth to effort of the stuff action time things take to do etc and sorry for caps just highlighting the most important points you see ^^)))) I dunno if you guys were replying to me, if yes, I'll just quote myself coz I don't think we're on the same page. When I think about bosses, I think beyond existing bosses. In the most difficult boss fight imaginable, where killing it ONCE is enough (quest req), LGE immortality will be a big factor. I am referring to Omega Weapon-level (remember Proof of Omega?) kinds of Boss Fights which currently does not exist in Iruna. The closest we have is probably Sauro. Omega isn't even the worst thing out there. Long story short, Immortality is OP. More than just OP, It breaks the game. Especially Immortality from something so simple as an item spam.
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Post by Kamisama on Jun 24, 2017 11:03:07 GMT
thank you for proving my point that lge usage while it is confirmed legitimate it is best used for certain occasions such as mq solos or helping others in mq and that after you passed the mqs and intend to farm the bosses a full well prepared party is much easier and faster and more efficient like this earlier post explained ^^ ((((and i cant even imagine solo farming super high hp bosses(say 6m to 12m and possibley much higher in future like 25m or more hp) for 500+ times that would take like 25+ to 40+ or even a whole lot more stacks of lges like say 120 or more stacks(2500 to 4000 or even alot more about 12000 or more lges)not to mention the time per kill(3 or more minutes and in future maybe 6 or alot more minutes)especially with all those nasty boss induced effects and by the time i get to 100 kills solo i could have got 500 or 2000 or more kills in a party(about 1 in half to 2 to 3 or even more hours) or if 500 in solo it would be about 2000 to 20000 in party x.x(5hours to 8 or more hours) that would explain why i say LGES WOULD ONLY BE USED FOR A ONE TO FEW TIME OCCASIONS THINGS LIKE MQS OR TO BE TAUGHT IN GUIDES AND BOSS UNCOMMONS COLLECTING SOLO AND (((IMPORTANTLY THAT FARMING WITH A PARTY ON THOSE SAME BOSSES FOR RARE DROPS AFTER YOU HAVE PASSED THEM AS MQ IS A FAR FAR BETTER CHOICE)))and its much easier on your thumbs and also your not having to farm or buy 2500 or astronomically much higher amounts of the lge pots like 12000+ and not to mention PARTY KILLING THOSE SUPER HIGH HP BOSSES ARE MUCH MUCH QUICKER AND FAR FAR EASIER you see we gotta THINK OF EVERYTHING ON A GRAND AND UNBIASED SCALE AND NOT JUST A FEW BIASED THINGS TO SEE THE BIG PICTURE and the feasability convenience worth to effort of the stuff action time things take to do etc and sorry for caps just highlighting the most important points you see ^^)))) I dunno if you guys were replying to me, if yes, I'll just quote myself coz I don't think we're on the same page. When I think about bosses, I think beyond existing bosses. In the most difficult boss fight imaginable, where killing it ONCE is enough (quest req), LGE immortality will be a big factor. I am referring to Omega Weapon-level (remember Proof of Omega?) kinds of Boss Fights which currently does not exist in Iruna. The closest we have is probably Sauro. Omega isn't even the worst thing out there. Long story short, Immortality is OP. More than just OP, It breaks the game. Especially Immortality from something so simple as an item spam. actually bosses can still kill lge users just as easily as ninja if they canceled all effects at the same time as stun or if they went sh attacking you (((referring to gatekeepers sh attack when i was an mq rushing lge spamming high wizard soloing it at level 248 with a pet took 12 freaking minutes could have tooken 8 minutes when out of nowhere she double casted 3 nemesis type attacks simultaneously and kills me before i had pet revive me in middle of fight... )))lol lge isnt fully immortal if your stunned canceled all effects dont have godly evasion resistance or boss decides to speedhack level cast their spells provided no resistance your dead no matter how you slice it on the next hit i had experienced this many times before i added resistance set to reduce all damage but rate damage by 95% so i wouldnt worry about stun+ cancel all buffs and also about omega level weapon THIS IS IRUNA ONLINE NOT FINAL FANTASY WHATEVER ROMAN NUMERALS AS BOTH GAMES ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT IDEAS AND CONCEPTS
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Post by Kamisama on Jun 24, 2017 11:17:48 GMT
I dunno if you guys were replying to me, if yes, I'll just quote myself coz I don't think we're on the same page. I am referring to Omega Weapon-level (remember Proof of Omega?) kinds of Boss Fights which currently does not exist in Iruna. The closest we have is probably Sauro. Omega isn't even the worst thing out there. Long story short, Immortality is OP. More than just OP, It breaks the game. Especially Immortality from something so simple as an item spam. actually bosses can still kill lge users just as easily as ninja if they canceled all effects at the same time as stun or if they went sh attacking you(((referring to gatekeepers sh attack when i was an mq rushing lge spamming high wizard soloing it at level 248 with a pet took 12 freaking minutes could have tooken 8 minutes when out of nowhere she double casted 3 nemesis type attacks simultaneously and kills me before i had pet revive me in middle of fight... )))lol lge isnt fully immortal if your stunned canceled all effects dont have godly evasion resistance or boss decides to speedhack level cast their spells provided no resistance your dead no matter how you slice it on the next hit i had experienced this many times before i added resistance set to reduce all damage but rate damage by 95% so i wouldnt worry about stun+ cancel all buffs and also about omega level weapon THIS IS IRUNA ONLINE NOT FINAL FANTASY WHATEVER ROMAN NUMERALS AS BOTH GAMES ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT IDEAS AND CONCEPTS also they would never consider a 1 quest only superboss lmao they always make it farmable and thats where partying coop counts after people passed their mq by any means even by lge usage if they must because buying or farming 12000+ lges(((bag space,time to accumulate would be horrendous,not to mention freaking expensive which is why i stop at 1 to 2 stacks and dont use unless mqs,plus why would i freaking bother to farm bosses with the pots i worked hard to get even for a stack and added that superbosses would eat through it really quickly making all that work to accumulate meaningless???)))is not feasable by any means and i dont know anyone in their right minds who would rather spend 3 to 12 minutes per kill every run for 1000+ times just to get a average farm run taking them about a whole freaking day or 2 to complete that many runs(making them no lives pretty much if they spend all day many days ingame XD) when they can get in just as many kills or much more in a really short time of 2 or 3 hours you see ^^
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