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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2017 3:09:09 GMT
Maybe it is my fault for suggesting 100 VITs in the guide for support build ._. but having 100 VITs in your build as support actually benefits one of infamous minstrel skills that is Improvisation at lvl 280 My minstrel build on 100 VITs and I not adding any more that that due to the fact that I gain 56 free VITs from 4 songs bonuses at level 350, more max hp from Life Songs, and Red line Apostalia. So here are my HP without any buff under variety of set to fits different party farming as well as for solo purposes. 1st Buff Set HP on Autoskill Page (6 purple 2 Red). I using this normally when I auto atk since my build based on pseudo monk build 2nd Buff Set HP on Attack Page (6 Yellow 2 Green) This set I usually use it during party on any boss that deal less effect. Overall survival are nice and usually the last to get killed in party despite Aggro 3nd Buff Set on 1 HP This set useful in emergency situation or boss that continuously delete HP such as Larkas or Wizard party farming 4th Buff Set on very low HP This set where I manipulate my HP according to bishop healing. Since some of the heal very low despite high level. Also where I can "cheat" some party that don't want Minstrels with high HP in party 5th Buff Set on very high HP This set is for me to use with improvisation when DUO party with High HP class such as Pally, Gladiator, Beast Knight or Samurai. Basically I can Heal them up to 20k to 25k HP with Full 4 songs Improvisation after battle.
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EP Opheia
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Bishop / Dec. 2013-April 2018
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Post by EP Opheia on Oct 30, 2017 20:47:29 GMT
It would be nice to add Irogeos Bow for AGI/CRT/DEX build. I use that as well as Gerifalte.
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Post by 『Acedia』 on Nov 1, 2017 12:44:02 GMT
It would be nice to add Irogeos Bow for AGI/CRT/DEX build. I use that as well as Gerifalte. uhmmm stardust still op over all specbow n i still used gerifalte for neutral mobs or for auto xD idk i will try compare gerifalte vs irogeos for auto atk vs random boss
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EP Opheia
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Post by EP Opheia on Nov 1, 2017 23:53:14 GMT
It would be nice to add Irogeos Bow for AGI/CRT/DEX build. I use that as well as Gerifalte. uhmmm stardust still op over all specbow n i still used gerifalte for neutral mobs or for auto xD idk i will try compare gerifalte vs irogeos for auto atk vs random boss Was trying to give another option for Minstrels who use that build. You can disregard it otherwise.
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Post by 『Acedia』 on Nov 2, 2017 14:39:09 GMT
uhmmm stardust still op over all specbow n i still used gerifalte for neutral mobs or for auto xD idk i will try compare gerifalte vs irogeos for auto atk vs random boss Was trying to give another option for Minstrels who use that build. You can disregard it otherwise. hmmm okay ill add it but still not recommend for dnewt vs stardust
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2017 17:50:39 GMT
I forgot to announce update here as Nightingals account since I off my laptop after done update ultimately forgot the password.
Done adding some missing latest equipment in table format for neat look both in desktop mode or mobile mode.
Reducing spoiler as it is too cluttered to be edit in future
Added Dream skill delay table for dummies.
That all o.o)/
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NightinGals
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Post by NightinGals on Nov 22, 2017 5:55:11 GMT
Done adding few update. Nothing new just missing piece of info since we aim to make complete guide hopefully.
- Added detail on each skills acquisition such as Location, NPC, Item, Quest Detail and level requirement.
updated by AizuRin XD
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Post by 'AhSaN' on Dec 1, 2017 3:33:19 GMT
Hello! Actually Geo Monks are heavily dependent on Critical Damage. So, In my opinion, you should erase the "Claw" word from Claw Monk.
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NightinGals
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Post by NightinGals on Dec 1, 2017 16:56:45 GMT
Hello! Actually Geo Monks are heavily dependent on Critical Damage. So, In my opinion, you should erase the "Claw" word from Claw Monk. We weren't really specifically talking about Geo Monks. Claw Monks is relevant to this because of their build itself... Since they have CRT & STR which is probably the most damage from party dragonewt damage potential. Also they have AGI with Claw which further strengthen their Dragonewt damage. But of course Geo Monk aren't listed because of their build type and we tested with a Geo Monk and their damage outcome wasn't as good as Claw Monk's. So therefore there is our clarification about Dragonewt.
(Also making more things to add to this thread to it's utmost perfection, Tips for Minstrel is coming soon. It's still under construction)
- MagicChi
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Post by 'AhSaN' on Dec 1, 2017 17:17:55 GMT
Hello! Actually Geo Monks are heavily dependent on Critical Damage. So, In my opinion, you should erase the "Claw" word from Claw Monk. We weren't really specifically talking about Geo Monks. Claw Monks is relevant to this because of their build itself... Since they have CRT & STR which is probably the most damage from party dragonewt damage potential. Also they have AGI with Claw which further strengthen their Dragonewt damage. But of course Geo Monk aren't listed because of their build type and we tested with a Geo Monk and their damage outcome wasn't as good as Claw Monk's. So therefore there is our clarification about Dragonewt.
(Also making more things to add to this thread to it's utmost perfection, Tips for Minstrel is coming soon. It's still under construction)
- MagicChiDoes the Dragnewt damage depend on user's ATK and Critical damage? or is it just the ATK upgrading stat (Depending on Weapon?)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2017 2:13:09 GMT
O.O I was too late to reply.
Eventually it was me who specifying claw monk because during editing time I still confuse with Geo type monk either their matk&crit% just like Ninja SK or atk&crit% Claw Monk. So I been enlightened with info that geo damage based on atk&crit% too so yeah...
I will fix it since both type of monk either geobreaker type or pure/hybrid claw auto atk type benefits from Dragonewt Damage. Shellbreak eventually further increase Dragonewt damage if proc in the right time. So yeah I will fix it. XD
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Post by 'AhSaN' on Dec 2, 2017 3:03:25 GMT
O.O I was too late to reply. Eventually it was me who specifying claw monk because during editing time I still confuse with Geo type monk either their matk&crit% just like Ninja SK or atk&crit% Claw Monk. So I been enlightened with info that geo damage based on atk&crit% too so yeah... I will fix it since both type of monk either geobreaker type or pure/hybrid claw auto atk type benefits from Dragonewt Damage. Shellbreak eventually further increase Dragonewt damage if proc in the right time. So yeah I will fix it. XD I was gonna prepare my minstrel to test this xD. Imo, if Dragonewt song relies on ATK and CRTDMG then I think Geo will win. Claws use Autoskill. It is clearly told that Claw Monks will benefit the most with Autoskills. In this case, Claw monks will be having less ATK and CRTDMG increasing stats. But Geo will be having more since they also rely on ATK and CRTDMG and not Autoskills!
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Post by pingrek on Dec 2, 2017 3:20:28 GMT
O.O I was too late to reply. Eventually it was me who specifying claw monk because during editing time I still confuse with Geo type monk either their matk&crit% just like Ninja SK or atk&crit% Claw Monk. So I been enlightened with info that geo damage based on atk&crit% too so yeah... I will fix it since both type of monk either geobreaker type or pure/hybrid claw auto atk type benefits from Dragonewt Damage. Shellbreak eventually further increase Dragonewt damage if proc in the right time. So yeah I will fix it. XD I was gonna prepare my minstrel to test this xD. Imo, if Dragonewt song relies on ATK and CRTDMG then I think Geo will win. Claws use Autoskill. It is clearly told that Claw Monks will benefit the most with Autoskills. In this case, Claw monks will be having less ATK and CRTDMG increasing stats. But Geo will be having more since they also rely on ATK and CRTDMG and not Autoskills! Actually claw monks rely on crt dmg% and atk% to increase autoskill damage so if anything they will be close in terms of damage because both rely on the same things just for different purpose, geo for a single skill to do high damage, while claw for high regular crit damage and auto damage, now if a geo monk uses spec claw then it should win
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Post by 'AhSaN' on Dec 2, 2017 4:17:41 GMT
I was gonna prepare my minstrel to test this xD. Imo, if Dragonewt song relies on ATK and CRTDMG then I think Geo will win. Claws use Autoskill. It is clearly told that Claw Monks will benefit the most with Autoskills. In this case, Claw monks will be having less ATK and CRTDMG increasing stats. But Geo will be having more since they also rely on ATK and CRTDMG and not Autoskills! Actually claw monks rely on crt dmg% and atk% to increase autoskill damage so if anything they will be close in terms of damage because both rely on the same things just for different purpose, geo for a single skill to do high damage, while claw for high regular crit damage and auto damage, now if a geo monk uses spec claw then it should win Autoskill > ATK+CRTDMG. No matter how much CRTDMG up equip you use for Monks, it will never beat Full Autoskill build in terms of DPS. It goes for Wyn and Veleno. In this case, Geo will win.
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NightinGals
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Post by NightinGals on Dec 18, 2017 4:46:51 GMT
Thread has been updated and added a new section of Early & Late Game Tips for Minstrel.
- MagicChi
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