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Post by Zensui_X on Jun 19, 2017 11:36:11 GMT
And the problem with resistance set is your damage is super low. Well, its a matter of choice after all.. its not about using only the capped resistance set lol you switch to matk set during assault and back if you even read everything and also your not losing much matk from forgoing matk al crystas for resistance al crystas anyways XD Then there's no problem at all, didn't you see the ss, the maxdef gears probably is his matk set, it is set to have a decent defense while on assault, its just saying that we should not just rely on assault's evasion boost, we should also consider defense in our matk set.
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Kamisama
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Post by Kamisama on Jun 19, 2017 11:41:34 GMT
its not about using only the capped resistance set lol you switch to matk set during assault and back if you even read everything and also your not losing much matk from forgoing matk al crystas for resistance al crystas anyways XD Then there's no problem at all, didn't you see the ss, the maxdef gears probably is his matk set, it is set to have a decent defense while on assault, its just saying that we should not just rely on assault's evasion boost, we should also consider defense in our matk set. i understand then so defense is good for when you have switched from capped resistance set to matk set during assault buff i see ^^
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Post by miiku on Jun 19, 2017 13:42:35 GMT
Nice *--* i should super refining my equipment too *^* the problems with super refine is compared to just a simple capped 95% magical and physical resistance set is that you will still be vulnerable to super powerful magic attacks and would be at the mercy of super powerful magic bosses that specializes in magic power capable of 1 shotting anyone who doesnt have capped or at least close to cap magical resistance here i have a guide that contains the capped magical and physical resistance set and teaches ultimate survival battle tactics and videos that demonstrates its ability to solo pretty much everything in the game ^^ irunaonline.boards.net/thread/27009/independent-combination-setup-wizard-concept?page=1Thanks for the guide link ^^
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Kamisama
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Post by Kamisama on Jun 19, 2017 14:11:46 GMT
the problems with super refine is compared to just a simple capped 95% magical and physical resistance set is that you will still be vulnerable to super powerful magic attacks and would be at the mercy of super powerful magic bosses that specializes in magic power capable of 1 shotting anyone who doesnt have capped or at least close to cap magical resistance here i have a guide that contains the capped magical and physical resistance set and teaches ultimate survival battle tactics and videos that demonstrates its ability to solo pretty much everything in the game ^^ irunaonline.boards.net/thread/27009/independent-combination-setup-wizard-concept?page=1Thanks for the guide link ^^ your welcome ^^
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Post by isntjoaquim on Jun 19, 2017 22:22:46 GMT
I was considering super refine+wizard xtals to keep my magic resistance good (wizard have 18% magic res and matk% as bonus) , but I gave up. High wizards already have a good tolerance to magic attacks, with full super refine+magic res on apostolia page 2 im already satisfied with my surv. 95% melee res, 45% magic res+2,5k mdef and matk 9,8k with this set
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Post by bikini on Jun 20, 2017 22:32:24 GMT
I Think spellboost is for 1 shoot bosses or party bosses.
Same for resist set, that made u slow kill, is faster in full pt with full matck xd.
Why hell u wanna kill ouvel or gk solo if full pt take 5-10time faster? (if there are bish&mins). spamming 5 zeros with spellboost. no need use lge/mp pots or hp lol.
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Kamisama
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Post by Kamisama on Jun 20, 2017 23:17:35 GMT
I Think spellboost is for 1 shoot bosses or party bosses. Same for resist set, that made u slow kill, is faster in full pt with full matck xd. Why hell u wanna kill ouvel or gk solo if full pt take 5-10time faster? (if there are bish&mins). spamming 5 zeros with spellboost. no need use lge/mp pots or hp lol. i understand your point but the ultimate survival tactics of capped resistance set with lge/hp pots are useful for in case lets say your in a situation where noone wants to party you say your hated by many people and your on a superpowerful bosses like the gk and ouvel type bosses noone wants to help you on wouldnt you want to have the ability to solo it using the capped resistance set with lge/hp pots without relying on people that say hate you and dont want to help you?thats my reason i made this guide so that any hw who cant get party for whatever reason could still do what they needed without relying on supposed virtually nonexistent help you see ^^
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Post by Zensui_X on Jun 20, 2017 23:33:50 GMT
I was considering super refine+wizard xtals to keep my magic resistance good (wizard have 18% magic res and matk% as bonus) , but I gave up. High wizards already have a good tolerance to magic attacks, with full super refine+magic res on apostolia page 2 im already satisfied with my surv. 95% melee res, 45% magic res+2,5k mdef and matk 9,8k with this set So, Max SR def from equipment does really raise Melee R? is it just Melee R? How bout Magic R? Well, anyway with this set of equipment how much Resistance do I have for both Melee and Magic R? Uber Rod Frederico Dragon Mail Reup Pole Sieger Plate Pole Orichal Ring Iniliba I think Dmail is at D39? And Sieger's at D44 when max. How much Resistance do I have if I have that set (excluded effect from Al and Abilities)?
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Post by isntjoaquim on Jun 21, 2017 1:12:33 GMT
I was considering super refine+wizard xtals to keep my magic resistance good (wizard have 18% magic res and matk% as bonus) , but I gave up. High wizards already have a good tolerance to magic attacks, with full super refine+magic res on apostolia page 2 im already satisfied with my surv. 95% melee res, 45% magic res+2,5k mdef and matk 9,8k with this set So, Max SR def from equipment does really raise Melee R? is it just Melee R? How bout Magic R? Well, anyway with this set of equipment how much Resistance do I have for both Melee and Magic R? Uber Rod Frederico Dragon Mail Reup Pole Sieger Plate Pole Orichal Ring Iniliba I think Dmail is at D39? And Sieger's at D44 when max. How much Resistance do I have if I have that set (excluded effect from Al and Abilities)? Melee R 26%, Magic R 26%, "Refine R" 95% (Melee resistance and "Refine resistance" do the same thing -cut dmg received by melee atks- but they do not stack).I've never tried the xtal wizard, but it gives magic r+18% and plus matk+8% / magic R up by int, I believe it would be of great help to your set, since with max super refine def/melee r% will not affect your received dmg o much
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Post by isntjoaquim on Jun 21, 2017 1:21:18 GMT
I think Dmail is at D39? And Sieger's at D44 when max. How much Resistance do I have if I have that set (excluded effect from Al and Abilities)? Considering that your d.mail is D38 (i think its the highest) and its +9, with sieger D39+9 your "Refine resistance" will be caped (Is there a name to resistance increased by equipment def? Refine resistance sounds weird Dx)
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Post by ♪Sumire on Jun 21, 2017 6:55:27 GMT
haha after reading 3 pages i just noticed just one post made the whole story diverge from the main topic xD from the spellboost-zero topic to resistance/matk etc
anyways i find it possible to at least spam 2 zeros while spellboost is on without having to go to any trouble with using multiple set--- just get 5 rossam xtals for -100percent mpc - a necklace of mortification slot so u wont need a mezza- and a consumable that 3i drops or was it the purple mob that reduces mpcost for a few seconds--and throw in everything that has -mpc in their stats --personally i havent reached that point of insanity...yet xD
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Post by Zensui_X on Jun 21, 2017 9:30:34 GMT
As per your set o²indeed it is possible to use spell boost and still make at least 3 shots of zero Anyway, here's my analysis; Pros -Deals Greater Damage (Boosted Matk) -Able to make 3 shots of Zero Cons -Too many buttons to tap (hahaha) -Mdef suffers greatly Another thing in comparison to Auto Bander Set, the good thing about Spell Boost is you have the control when to activate it unlike Auto that you have to rely on your Autoskill+, and take hits for it to trigger. Also, it's duration is way longer than Autoskill (but of course it is still depends on your Dex Stat). Note: Spell Boost effect; Roughly +40% Matk +100% MP Cost takes 20% of MP when activated Duration depends on Dex (10 Dex = 1Sec, I think) Totally cuts Mdef in half
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Post by NightBreeze on Jun 21, 2017 10:34:05 GMT
So, Max SR def from equipment does really raise Melee R? is it just Melee R? How bout Magic R? Well, anyway with this set of equipment how much Resistance do I have for both Melee and Magic R? Uber Rod Frederico Dragon Mail Reup Pole Sieger Plate Pole Orichal Ring Iniliba I think Dmail is at D39? And Sieger's at D44 when max. How much Resistance do I have if I have that set (excluded effect from Al and Abilities)? I want to explain how to calculate your resistance so you and others understand better. First, sum your equipment's def values and refine values. Assuming the only ones with def≠0 are your armor and additional, 39+44 +9+9 = 101. It can't go higher than 95, so let's say it's 95. Next, substract from 100 the result. In this case, 100-95 = 5. So you only receive 5% of the dmg so far. Next, physical resistance is applied. Your equips & xtals give you +26% physical and magical resistance. 5% * 26% = 0.013 = 1.3%. So, additionally 1.3% of the dmg is reduced. 5% - 1.3% = 3.7%. But you can't receive less than 5%, so let's say it's 5%. So you have 95% physical resistance. About magical resistance, it's not affected by def & refine, just by magical resistance+%. So, you have 26% magical resistance.
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Post by Zensui_X on Jun 21, 2017 10:49:14 GMT
I want to explain how to calculate your resistance so you and others understand better. First, sum your equipment's def values and refine values. Assuming the only ones with def≠0 are your armor and additional, 39+44 +9+9 = 101. It can't go higher than 95, so let's say it's 95. Next, substract from 100 the result. In this case, 100-95 = 5. So you only receive 5% of the dmg so far. Next, physical resistance is applied. Your equips & xtals give you +26% physical and magical resistance. 5% * 26% = 0.013 = 1.3%. So, additionally 1.3% of the dmg is reduced. 5% - 1.3% = 3.7%. But you can't receive less than 5%, so let's say it's 5%. So you have 95% physical resistance. About magical resistance, it's not affected by def & refine, just by magical resistance+%. So, you have 26% magical resistance. Great, that's the kind of answer I was looking for. Another off topic question, it was said that Iniliba's Auto Reduces Damage how much Damage it reduces when its Auto triggers?
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Post by NightBreeze on Jun 21, 2017 11:35:03 GMT
[Great, that's the kind of answer I was looking for. Another off topic question, it was said that Iniliba's Auto Reduces Damage how much Damage it reduces when its Auto triggers? Iniliba's auto reduces dmg by 25%. Example of battle log: And your hp bar will be reduced by 7500.
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