Krisu
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Post by Krisu on Jun 1, 2017 21:53:50 GMT
Lol I regret not putting 245 Dex first lol. It's easier to spam arrow rain that way. I got Int to 256 first then crt to 59 but my auto attack damage still sucks. So I started putting pts into Dex but it's only & so arrow rain is really slow. I have to use ultimi and evil dragon wings in order use arrow rain, but even then it's not spamable yet. I also was forced to use radiance, a magic now in order to do decent damage. I don't think it's gonna be easy to sell it back when I'm done with it. Your bs damage will be lower if you go 245 Dex then start on Int but it will be a lot smoother to level or do damage(at like raids and stuff). I would also recommend to go app sniper until 140. You can even go to 160 or 180 if you want. But I'm probably changing to assassin as soon as I can because I'm impatient, and I already have a bs build on my character.
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Krisu
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Post by Krisu on Jun 1, 2017 22:01:13 GMT
Lol I regret not putting 245 Dex first lol. It's easier to spam arrow rain that way. I got Int to 256 first then crt to 59 but my auto attack damage still sucks. So I started putting pts into Dex but it's only & so arrow rain is really slow. I have to use ultimi and evil dragon wings in order use arrow rain, but even then it's not spamable yet. I also was forced to use radiance, a magic now in order to do decent damage. I don't think it's gonna be easy to sell it back when I'm done with it. Your bs damage will be lower if you go 245 Dex then start on Int but it will be a lot smoother to level or do damage(at like raids and stuff). I would also recommend to go app sniper until 140. You can even go to 160 or 180 if you want. But I'm probably changing to assassin as soon as I can because I'm impatient, and I already have a bs build on my character. And also don't kill me because I was boosted to 100 You can't be much lazier
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Ravitox
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Editing the assassin gear sets...
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Post by Ravitox on Jun 27, 2017 16:26:20 GMT
Lol I regret not putting 245 Dex first lol. It's easier to spam arrow rain that way. I got Int to 256 first then crt to 59 but my auto attack damage still sucks. So I started putting pts into Dex but it's only & so arrow rain is really slow. I have to use ultimi and evil dragon wings in order use arrow rain, but even then it's not spamable yet. I also was forced to use radiance, a magic now in order to do decent damage. I don't think it's gonna be easy to sell it back when I'm done with it. Your bs damage will be lower if you go 245 Dex then start on Int but it will be a lot smoother to level or do damage(at like raids and stuff). I would also recommend to go app sniper until 140. You can even go to 160 or 180 if you want. But I'm probably changing to assassin as soon as I can because I'm impatient, and I already have a bs build on my character. And also don't kill me because I was boosted to 100 You can't be much lazier Doing that is honestly easier. I went AGI CRT STR until 140. I should have waited until 160 to reset, but I got impatient and too happy about being 140 for the first time back then. It definitely is faster to go arrow rain or a claw build until some decent back stab gear is gathered, but most people would rather spend extra time than money on stelfys (at least from what I heard) :>
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(0_0)
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Post by (0_0) on Jul 18, 2017 4:26:42 GMT
Hello, was actually looking for some info on assasins equips. But seeing the complaint about levelling a sin i thought i'd share my sin stat here.I build my sin with the idea on being able to spam at 1 sec interval as soon as I got backstab, and that means dex. (Btw before level 50 i went agi crit cuz we got no decent skill, plus free restat anyway)
My Assasin stat at level 140 is..
Dex-200 int-90 crt-140
and equipment is ...
Artemis III+9 <Cerberus> Heinrich no up <Magonza> Monty Beret <Vida> Mermaid Jewel ns
With this equipment and stat, I can spam at 1 sec interval. I was doing 25k-27k BS on yarde with around 56k double BS on full buff (16k BS/30K DBS no buff), which to me is decent damage (I'm 152 now with 29k BS/58K DBS full buff, adding int atm)
I first get my DEX to 200, which allow me to use a bow for levelling pre 140 (I use failnaught II ns and thimble ns cuz me is poor T^T), remaining equip is the same as above. 1 problem I noticed is with 200 dex and 2sec SD I still can't spam AR, need another 0.5 sec SD. I choose to add INT as second stat because having more mp is more useful that having more crit rate/crit damage when you are spamming AR.
P/S to be honest last week, I went and restat my char to max int rest crit build. It was the worst. I was using same equip but change my add to eye bandage Vida. I was doing 33-35k BS with around 60k DBS but now I had to wait 7 sec for each BS. My Yarde killing time goes from below 1 minute to almost 3 minutes, change my stat back in a heartbeat T_T
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Ravitox
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Editing the assassin gear sets...
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Post by Ravitox on Jul 20, 2017 4:26:07 GMT
Hello, was actually looking for some info on assasins equips. But seeing the complaint about levelling a sin i thought i'd share my sin stat here.I build my sin with the idea on being able to spam at 1 sec interval as soon as I got backstab, and that means dex. (Btw before level 50 i went agi crit cuz we got no decent skill, plus free restat anyway) My Assasin stat at level 140 is.. Dex-200 int-90 crt-140 and equipment is ... Artemis III+9 <Cerberus> Heinrich no up <Magonza> Monty Beret <Vida> Mermaid Jewel ns With this equipment and stat, I can spam at 1 sec interval. I was doing 25k-27k BS on yarde with around 56k double BS on full buff (16k BS/30K DBS no buff), which to me is decent damage (I'm 152 now with 29k BS/58K DBS full buff, adding int atm) I first get my DEX to 200, which allow me to use a bow for levelling pre 140 (I use failnaught II ns and thimble ns cuz me is poor T^T), remaining equip is the same as above. 1 problem I noticed is with 200 dex and 2sec SD I still can't spam AR, need another 0.5 sec SD. I choose to add INT as second stat because having more mp is more useful that having more crit rate/crit damage when you are spamming AR. P/S to be honest last week, I went and restat my char to max int rest crit build. It was the worst. I was using same equip but change my add to eye bandage Vida. I was doing 33-35k BS with around 60k DBS but now I had to wait 7 sec for each BS. My Yarde killing time goes from below 1 minute to almost 3 minutes, change my stat back in a heartbeat T_T Am I correct in assuming you have a backstab sin? xD Since you are willing to do the restat once or twice, I would 100% recommend staying dex if you want to grind mobs, until you find all your skill delay gear, then you can reset to minimum dex I wouldn't bother spamming AR if you can spam backstab. You have a throw mastery over a bow mastery, so use throws OvO~ If you would like to reset to damage once you level some more, I suggest a solid level 180+ with at least one piece of each type of gear, or level 240+ if you're very, very, very, very poor forever and only ever runs mq. There are other more in depth threads (probably) about sin gear around the site but I will leave some basics here without influencing your AL xtal or gear xtal choices. (And probably because this wasn't a thread about gear ovo) Weapons: (Because Elemental damage = lots of extra damage!) Dark - Prescience III Light - Stavros Dark/Light - Uroboros (Has SD : If you don't want separate throws because you're poor) Fire - Adler II Water - Freesia Caim II Wind - Whirlwind Earth - Mio Filio II Neutral - Eventail III (Probably get this first if you're poor) Armor: Some base atk and damage Ultimi Reup (has -SD) Ira reup Additional: This kind of depends on your stats. Have something that ups your critical damage by % or based on stats. Daiginjo up Eye Bandage up (If you don't want the -70% crt rate for some reason?) Special: Try to get it slotted, but we're all drowning in poverty, so whatever. Killer Seed Disaster Stone Ring of Rush And here is an outdated guide that has some good alternate elemental throws listed, as well as a good list of elemental xtals for your weapons ~ irunaonline.boards.net/thread/3132/assassin-guide
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(0_0)
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Post by (0_0) on Jul 20, 2017 6:13:43 GMT
Hi Ravitox thx for the info. I just got myself Ira and a Disaster Stone a couple of days ago, definitely see the increase in damage XD I was under the impression that BS spam will always go for 245 dex but was using SD items the way to go nowadays. I was planning to add 245 dex, but should I just get some SD AL crysta instead? I had another question, should I start collecting elemental throws or should I upgrade my Ira first? Not sure which one is more important, currently my plan is to get freesia caim (already have, need to +9) for Nommar and a fire element throw for High Ent before upgrading my Ira. But if elemental throw is more important maybe I should collect the full set first?
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Post by trafalgardlaw[HAD ENOUGH] on Jul 20, 2017 12:31:30 GMT
Hi Ravitox thx for the info. I just got myself Ira and a Disaster Stone a couple of days ago, definitely see the increase in damage XD I was under the impression that BS spam will always go for 245 dex but was using SD items the way to go nowadays. I was planning to add 245 dex, but should I just get some SD AL crysta instead? I had another question, should I start collecting elemental throws or should I upgrade my Ira first? Not sure which one is more important, currently my plan is to get freesia caim (already have, need to +9) for Nommar and a fire element throw for High Ent before upgrading my Ira. But if elemental throw is more important maybe I should collect the full set first? depends on what ur lvl at.. If u already have sicarius n at 260++ u should get these equips that can 1 hit nommars.heres the link irunaonline.boards.net/thread/26666/equips-1-hit-nommar
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Ravitox
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Editing the assassin gear sets...
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Post by Ravitox on Jul 21, 2017 16:50:56 GMT
Hi Ravitox thx for the info. I just got myself Ira and a Disaster Stone a couple of days ago, definitely see the increase in damage XD I was under the impression that BS spam will always go for 245 dex but was using SD items the way to go nowadays. I was planning to add 245 dex, but should I just get some SD AL crysta instead? I had another question, should I start collecting elemental throws or should I upgrade my Ira first? Not sure which one is more important, currently my plan is to get freesia caim (already have, need to +9) for Nommar and a fire element throw for High Ent before upgrading my Ira. But if elemental throw is more important maybe I should collect the full set first? I would suggest having a Cheltil in your AL crysta set. It is good skill delay, and it comes easily in green, which makes yellow lines with red colored Ouvels and Sauro IIs (woot woot more damage). I also suggest collecting your elemental throws first. Depending on which grind spot has a fast party, you'll need to be able to fit the situation The throws don't need to be maxed out immediately. The first version of each throw should only be a few million each (always get them slotted). Once you have all your base gear, then you can upgrade Ira, and then max out the throws.
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Post by arslan on Sept 14, 2017 13:07:53 GMT
heey I'm just a little confused here.. I don't know how many dex should I put
I plan on using: all ele throw ira reup daiginjo ds ns xD
for al
cheltil (-1sd) sauro II (-0.5sd)
with this I only have -1.5sd which is equal to 60dex right? so how many dex should I put? 185 or 145? cause in this guide it is stated that 20 dex = .5 sd and we need 245 dex (-6sd) to spam it withouth gears.... but we only need -5sd to spam bs right? so where should i subtract it?
Also what is this Hawkeye xD I looked for it but it's for sniper right? so why was it stated here? sorry Im just confused
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Post by NightBreeze on Sept 14, 2017 19:08:12 GMT
heey I'm just a little confused here.. I don't know how many dex should I put I plan on using: all ele throw ira reup daiginjo ds ns xD for al cheltil (-1sd) sauro II (-0.5sd) with this I only have -1.5sd which is equal to 60dex right? so how many dex should I put? 185 or 145? cause in this guide it is stated that 20 dex = .5 sd and we need 245 dex (-6sd) to spam it withouth gears.... but we only need -5sd to spam bs right? so where should i subtract it? Also what is this Hawkeye xD I looked for it but it's for sniper right? so why was it stated here? sorry Im just confused I think you need 185 Dex. I put 185 Dex on my sin and using cheltil and sauro II too. And Hawkeye is a skill which increases critical DMG which is learned when switching to Hunter, so logically assassin has it too.
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Post by arslan on Sept 14, 2017 20:46:43 GMT
Tysm ^^
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Fatima
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Post by Fatima on Sept 14, 2017 23:00:29 GMT
I read this thread out of curiosity yet I don't see the so-called guide. Looks either like the autor intended to focus on the 4 major backstab stats or make a walk-through about the assassin path and every detail included with.
First of all, our class has been revised, and the backstab[rear, lv2] (hereafter just backstab) now has a multiplier of 5.5x white damage and an increase of 18% per hit after first backstab due Assault. also if memory serves me well, Hawkeye DEX raise is not counted with the delay reduction, only real allocated DEX stat points do(limited to former cap 256).
Regarding Venom Fist, let's look at it as a mean to weaken foes, it duplicates its poison damage per use until reach 100k; pretty handy with high def mobs.
So anyways I'm feeling kinda disappointed by this, specially when someone says is his own experience and I come to think: " where have you been all this time? I'm prone to be touchy when someone attempts (inadvertiently perhaps) to render my class worthless. People tend to generalize, and if only a single member of your class displays bad traits(this particular case; lack of information, experience), you get dragged along.
Yet I acknowledge that this is a great Assassin User Manual allowing to see every aspect from stats to skills and their effects in one unified thread. No need to have several tabs open!
Good job making this, just be careful next time about the information posted. Small details can potentially make players get the wrong gear.
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Ravitox
Ravioli Ravioli, give me the formuoli
Editing the assassin gear sets...
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Post by Ravitox on Sept 15, 2017 0:18:59 GMT
I read this thread out of curiosity yet I don't see the so-called guide. Looks either like the autor intended to focus on the 4 major backstab stats or make a walk-through about the assassin path and every detail included with. First of all, our class has been revised, and the backstab[rear, lv2] (hereafter just backstab) now has a multiplier of 5.5x white damage and an increase of 18% per hit after first backstab due Assault. also if memory serves me well, Hawkeye DEX raise is not counted with the delay reduction, only real allocated DEX stat points do(limited to former cap 256). Regarding Venom Fist, let's look at it as a mean to weaken foes, it duplicates its poison damage per use until reach 100k; pretty handy with high def mobs. So anyways I'm feeling kinda disappointed by this, specially when someone says is his own experience and I come to think: " where have you been all this time? I'm prone to be touchy when someone attempts (inadvertiently perhaps) to render my class worthless. People tend to generalize, and if only a single member of your class displays bad traits(this particular case; lack of information, experience), you get dragged along. Yet I acknowledge that this is a great Assassin User Manual allowing to see every aspect from stats to skills and their effects in one unified thread. No need to have several tabs open! Good job making this, just be careful next time about the information posted. Small details can potentially make players get the wrong gear. I know this information is far from a real guide, which is why I noted that it was pretty much only about the stats. I intended to give super-stat-confused people a bit of clarity so they wouldn't be led astray by magic ninja, or sniper stats and end up needing to reset. The detail about Hawkeye's DEX has already been noted multiple times in previous thread replies, and I edited the post a while back so it no longer says that DEX changes delay reduction. As a side note, venom fist had been updated after I made the post, so I went back and edited the values as well. I did not address gear, because people can choose whatever gear they think they work best with, although some have more damage or delay than others (like in the choice between Ultimi and Ira). I'm sorry you're disappointed by this, but if you're an experienced assassin, you probably knew all this information anyway! xD I apologize if you didn't like that I made a small blurb about my own experience, but I really think that everyone experiences the assassin class differently. I did not mean to dictate how this class should be played, but merely compile most of the updated information fairly accurately so people can find it easily on the front page and use it to their own style and benefit. On a last note, I don't believe I'll be making any more assassin information posts, but thank you for the acknowledgement.
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Post by cerulain on Sept 15, 2017 0:37:46 GMT
I read this thread out of curiosity yet I don't see the so-called guide. Looks either like the autor intended to focus on the 4 major backstab stats or make a walk-through about the assassin path and every detail included with. First of all, our class has been revised, and the backstab[rear, lv2] (hereafter just backstab) now has a multiplier of 5.5x white damage and an increase of 18% per hit after first backstab due Assault. also if memory serves me well, Hawkeye DEX raise is not counted with the delay reduction, only real allocated DEX stat points do(limited to former cap 256). Regarding Venom Fist, let's look at it as a mean to weaken foes, it duplicates its poison damage per use until reach 100k; pretty handy with high def mobs. So anyways I'm feeling kinda disappointed by this, specially when someone says is his own experience and I come to think: " where have you been all this time? I'm prone to be touchy when someone attempts (inadvertiently perhaps) to render my class worthless. People tend to generalize, and if only a single member of your class displays bad traits(this particular case; lack of information, experience), you get dragged along. Yet I acknowledge that this is a great Assassin User Manual allowing to see every aspect from stats to skills and their effects in one unified thread. No need to have several tabs open! Good job making this, just be careful next time about the information posted. Small details can potentially make players get the wrong gear. Should probably take your rage out on Asobimo. With ninja having SK, or backstab for dummies, and clones, it renders Assassin pretty much dead, useless and buried forever. Even with the upcoming, apparent, change to backstab to teleport the assassin.
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Post by pingrek on Sept 15, 2017 1:00:20 GMT
I read this thread out of curiosity yet I don't see the so-called guide. Looks either like the autor intended to focus on the 4 major backstab stats or make a walk-through about the assassin path and every detail included with. First of all, our class has been revised, and the backstab[rear, lv2] (hereafter just backstab) now has a multiplier of 5.5x white damage and an increase of 18% per hit after first backstab due Assault. also if memory serves me well, Hawkeye DEX raise is not counted with the delay reduction, only real allocated DEX stat points do(limited to former cap 256). Regarding Venom Fist, let's look at it as a mean to weaken foes, it duplicates its poison damage per use until reach 100k; pretty handy with high def mobs. So anyways I'm feeling kinda disappointed by this, specially when someone says is his own experience and I come to think: " where have you been all this time? I'm prone to be touchy when someone attempts (inadvertiently perhaps) to render my class worthless. People tend to generalize, and if only a single member of your class displays bad traits(this particular case; lack of information, experience), you get dragged along. Yet I acknowledge that this is a great Assassin User Manual allowing to see every aspect from stats to skills and their effects in one unified thread. No need to have several tabs open! Good job making this, just be careful next time about the information posted. Small details can potentially make players get the wrong gear. Should probably take your rage out on Asobimo. With ninja having SK, or backstab for dummies, and clones, it renders Assassin pretty much dead, useless and buried forever. Even with the upcoming, apparent, change to backstab to teleport the assassin. Wrong, assassins are still very much alive and can continuously use backstab whereas sk ninja needs to constantly have clones to use sk and if they have none they are dead since they will have almost no evasion of any sort unless they use green lines and some other evasion boosting things whereas assassin is going to be evading almost every attack as long as it isn't critical while attacking, so while ninja may have clones they are also a weakness because without them they can't use sk or prevent death
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