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Post by super n00b on Nov 6, 2016 4:09:02 GMT
I decided to make Glad a while back but just recently started really playing her.
As of right now, I am rocking:
- Red Tengu III+9 (Farmed and upgraded myself *-*)
- Lamia +7 (This sh!t would not even +8, went thru 1 stack so I stopped because I ran out of ori =3=)
- Vritra (Working on upgrading it all the way)
- Mio's Katana (Because I got it while helping kill Mio xD)
- Ira +6 (Will up whenever I get the chance to)
- Barbarotita
- Seahorse Bangle (Because I am still just running myself through MQ, will be switching later on)
These gears are just what I'm choosing to start with since I won't benefit from any high level equips right now. The Ira was just left over from my old assassin account. Anyways, my question is: "What should I put in my Ira and Red Tengu?"
I was thinking of putting either Cerberus, Oritius, or Plazuda on my weapon for now.
- Cerberus: CRT Rate -10, CRT DMG +12%
- Oritius: ATK +9% Auto HP recovery -20%
- Plazuda: ATK +5%, ATK +3% when equipped to a weapon
I like Cerberus' CRT DMG +12% but I'm unsure of the CRT Rate -10. The only downside I see with Oritius is the Auto HP recovery -20%. And Plazuda would be my last choice because it doesn't really give that much attack. Is there any other cheap ATK xtal that I could use? If so, please let me know. Also, I'm asking for you guys opinion because I don't know if it's better to go for plain ATK or to focus on doing a lot of CRT DMG.
As for my Ira, I think my two choices are either Minenaga or Magonza. I don't know if Minenaga is a good choice but I kind of like the CRT DMG it adds. If it isn't a good choice, I'll just stick with Magonza.
- Minenaga: CRT DMG +5%, CRT DMG +5% when equipped to an armor
- Magonza: Melee +200, Magic R -10%, Adds ATK +9% and Magic R +10% on Armors.
**I was thinking that if I were to focus on doing critical's it would be good to pair Cerberus with Minenaga but that is just my assumption.**
Also, please keep in mind that I will be going STR=CRT > 256 AGI > DEX. (I'll add a little VIT along the way but that build is my main focus...)
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Post by saren11 on Nov 6, 2016 6:30:12 GMT
Oritius is a really good one. since you aren't focusing on vit HP recovery wont be high anyways, and red tengu doubles the HP recovery after defeating the enemy^^ And red tengu already has CRT dmg+% so atk+% will just balance it to give overall higher dmg.
For armor Ira is great but since that-25% resistance hurts quite alot in boss fight keep a Bellow for all round balance of atk and resistance^^(Licht can be a great and very cheap alternative too for tank purposes) But Ira goes well with both xtals whichever gives you higher damage will be better. But personally I would choose magonza because it's just a little less strong than dorry.
Barbarotita is great again. but monty beret is better choice since both give nearly same atk+% and it has no -accuracy also monty beret will add atk for your each dex and it's +25% item recovery is better for no vit build^^
Seahorse bangle can be replaced by myrica after lvl 100 because it will give higher HP and also def because it adds vit unlike the s bangle which just gives hp. I highly suggest to keep catura talisman because that ratecut and resist comes quite handy during all total gameplay.
Have fun playing as a gladiator^_^
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Post by The_Mormegil on Nov 6, 2016 14:32:15 GMT
Xstals are:
Grapagos or Cerberus for weapon, you dont need to balance out your atk or crt with weapon xstals, your armour xstal will help with that. Plus crt just generally adds more dmg anyway.
Raton for add gear Iniliba for armour Noid for spec
Get yourself an ultimi reup, also why exactly are you even using a red tengu? Unless your vit build that sword isn't your go to sword.
Get yourself a legacy of will if you're agi.
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Post by Ryukengan on Nov 6, 2016 15:18:06 GMT
If you are planning to go for Daiginjo Up then Cerberus is not recommended but otherwise, if you have 315+ CRT or Tech abilities Cerberus will be the best and cheapest option, until you can afford a Grapagos. The real question is are you going to solo grind her up or are you going to rush MQ/get help leveling? Because upping the Ira would be a huge waste if you're not going for Daiginjo later on. You generally don't want the - physical resistance until 260 where you can sustain yourself very well while dishing out good damage. I can see the benefit of it in conjunction with the Lamia though. As for whether to go for ATK or Crit Damage: You need a healthy combination of ATK, Critical Damage, Elemental Damage and sometimes Physical Pierce if the enemy has high DEF. If you are planning to rush to higher levels then The_Mormegil is completely right, just get an Ultimi. Even the no up version will be more useful for skill spamming. Another cheaper alternative would be Bellow of Order. It will make you tankier but you will also deal less damage with it. Also Legacy of Will is very nice but since you don't have any AGI currently Red Tengu will do, just slap a Cerberus on it. If for now you really can't afford different gear then I'd also recommend Magonza, it has 1% less multiplier but in most instances ATK has a higher value because the monsters keep getting higher DEF and you need to bypass that first with your ATK.
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Post by super n00b on Nov 6, 2016 19:06:41 GMT
Oritius is a really good one. since you aren't focusing on vit HP recovery wont be high anyways, and red tengu doubles the HP recovery after defeating the enemy^^ And red tengu already has CRT dmg+% so atk+% will just balance it to give overall higher dmg. For armor Ira is great but since that-25% resistance hurts quite alot in boss fight keep a Bellow for all round balance of atk and resistance^^(Licht can be a great and very cheap alternative too for tank purposes) But Ira goes well with both xtals whichever gives you higher damage will be better. But personally I would choose magonza because it's just a little less strong than dorry. Barbarotita is great again. but monty beret is better choice since both give nearly same atk+% and it has no -accuracy also monty beret will add atk for your each dex and it's +25% item recovery is better for no vit build^^ Seahorse bangle can be replaced by myrica after lvl 100 because it will give higher HP and also def because it adds vit unlike the s bangle which just gives hp. I highly suggest to keep catura talisman because that ratecut and resist comes quite handy during all total gameplay. Have fun playing as a gladiator^_^ Thank you for the suggestions. I got a Myrica NS but I don't know if I'll keep using because according to this thread Myrica has a negative hidden. Until I counter counter that negative, I'll have to keep a different special on hand.. (Maybe..?)
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Post by super n00b on Nov 6, 2016 19:35:40 GMT
Xstals are: Grapagos or Cerberus for weapon, you dont need to balance out your atk or crt with weapon xstals, your armour xstal will help with that. Plus crt just generally adds more dmg anyway. Raton for add gear Iniliba for armour Noid for spec Get yourself an ultimi reup, also why exactly are you even using a red tengu? Unless your vit build that sword isn't your go to sword. Get yourself a legacy of will if you're agi. Yeah, I was planning on getting a Grapagos when I've saved enough since that seems to be the best for weapon at the moment. What is the price range of Garapagos btw?
I know I will be getting an Ultimi and gonna try to up it but wow, that's already like 690m-ish for 2 Raton (1 for add gear) and 1 Almas!! But it'll be worth it. I'll also be buying a Iniliba which brings my total way thru the roof. But I'm planning on sticking it out and keeping my glad unlike all the other charas I gave up on along the way. I can easily farm Beelzenoid with my nin or bishop so that saves me some spina.
As for the Red Tengu,it dropped for me when I kept doing MQ runs with people so I decided to keep it for now since I don't really have any stats yet. But yes, I will be trying to get a Legacy S soon.
Thank you!
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Post by super n00b on Nov 6, 2016 19:45:16 GMT
If you are planning to go for Daiginjo Up then Cerberus is not recommended but otherwise, if you have 315+ CRT or Tech abilities Cerberus will be the best and cheapest option, until you can afford a Grapagos. The real question is are you going to solo grind her up or are you going to rush MQ/get help leveling? Because upping the Ira would be a huge waste if you're not going for Daiginjo later on. You generally don't want the - physical resistance until 260 where you can sustain yourself very well while dishing out good damage. I can see the benefit of it in conjunction with the Lamia though. As for whether to go for ATK or Crit Damage: You need a healthy combination of ATK, Critical Damage, Elemental Damage and sometimes Physical Pierce if the enemy has high DEF. If you are planning to rush to higher levels then The_Mormegil is completely right, just get an Ultimi. Even the no up version will be more useful for skill spamming. Another cheaper alternative would be Bellow of Order. It will make you tankier but you will also deal less damage with it. Also Legacy of Will is very nice but since you don't have any AGI currently Red Tengu will do, just slap a Cerberus on it. If for now you really can't afford different gear then I'd also recommend Magonza, it has 1% less multiplier but in most instances ATK has a higher value because the monsters keep getting higher DEF and you need to bypass that first with your ATK. Currently, I am doing a mix of both. I level myself grinding a few hours a day then maybe the next day I'll do a couple MQ's. I'm trying not to rush through it.
I have a general idea of what I'm aiming for in terms of gear but nothing definite yet. I'll be getting elementals once I really rake in the spina; but for now I am just going for something I can use all around. And yeah, I thought the same with my Red Tengu. No agi means no benefit from Legacy so Red Tengu was fine. But now that I'm almost complete with STR = CRT, Legacy will be on my to get list because I'll start adding AGI soon.
And yes, for now I guess Magonza will do. I just won't be buying it; I'll make my bishop farm for it since it's a easy solo and faster because I don't have to wait and support ppl who are rude. o3o
Thank you for the advice! :3
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Post by saren11 on Nov 8, 2016 11:35:51 GMT
Oritius is a really good one. since you aren't focusing on vit HP recovery wont be high anyways, and red tengu doubles the HP recovery after defeating the enemy^^ And red tengu already has CRT dmg+% so atk+% will just balance it to give overall higher dmg. For armor Ira is great but since that-25% resistance hurts quite alot in boss fight keep a Bellow for all round balance of atk and resistance^^(Licht can be a great and very cheap alternative too for tank purposes) But Ira goes well with both xtals whichever gives you higher damage will be better. But personally I would choose magonza because it's just a little less strong than dorry. Barbarotita is great again. but monty beret is better choice since both give nearly same atk+% and it has no -accuracy also monty beret will add atk for your each dex and it's +25% item recovery is better for no vit build^^ Seahorse bangle can be replaced by myrica after lvl 100 because it will give higher HP and also def because it adds vit unlike the s bangle which just gives hp. I highly suggest to keep catura talisman because that ratecut and resist comes quite handy during all total gameplay. Have fun playing as a gladiator^_^ Thank you for the suggestions. I got a Myrica NS but I don't know if I'll keep using because according to this thread Myrica has a negative hidden. Until I counter counter that negative, I'll have to keep a different special on hand.. (Maybe..?)Yeah that -20%ratecut seems to be true. But it doesn't really effects much(90%of the times it wont) . Keep using it for all bosses till ouvel^^ . I used myrica to solo gatekeeper without any death, same with telon(was unable to do it without myrica) and anyways you can keep ratecut abi it's cheaper than most of abilities out there and comes handy for bosses like ouvel and minela who never show mercy at time of hitting youXD
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Post by The_Mormegil on Nov 8, 2016 19:06:33 GMT
Xstals are: Grapagos or Cerberus for weapon, you dont need to balance out your atk or crt with weapon xstals, your armour xstal will help with that. Plus crt just generally adds more dmg anyway. Raton for add gear Iniliba for armour Noid for spec Get yourself an ultimi reup, also why exactly are you even using a red tengu? Unless your vit build that sword isn't your go to sword. Get yourself a legacy of will if you're agi. Yeah, I was planning on getting a Grapagos when I've saved enough since that seems to be the best for weapon at the moment. What is the price range of Garapagos btw?
I know I will be getting an Ultimi and gonna try to up it but wow, that's already like 690m-ish for 2 Raton (1 for add gear) and 1 Almas!! But it'll be worth it. I'll also be buying a Iniliba which brings my total way thru the roof. But I'm planning on sticking it out and keeping my glad unlike all the other charas I gave up on along the way. I can easily farm Beelzenoid with my nin or bishop so that saves me some spina.
As for the Red Tengu,it dropped for me when I kept doing MQ runs with people so I decided to keep it for now since I don't really have any stats yet. But yes, I will be trying to get a Legacy S soon.
Thank you!Yeah keep at it bro. I find the key to success in this game is to just pick one goal, work towards that until you get it and move on to the next goal. This way you dont over burden yourself with too many tasks and also overwhelm yourself as well. If you sit there tallying up the total of everything you need it would just seem like a daunting task and may result in giving up later down the line. Look at it this way, first try for add gear, so just get the xstal you need which is just one raton... So your goal should really be that one raton, after you attain that go for almas for ultimi, ect ect... I find doing this at least for me makes it 10 times easier and a lot more faster, because i put my sole effort into that one item, after i got that i move onto the next. Gl and pm me if you ever need a hand or more advice
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Post by super n00b on Nov 15, 2016 4:34:53 GMT
Should I just stick Garapagos in my Legacy? Or is there a specific sword it should go in... I just want to make sure I put it in the right sword and don't end up having to buy a empty xtal and having it break...
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Post by Ardent Sakuro on Nov 15, 2016 19:05:34 GMT
Should I just stick Garapagos in my Legacy? Or is there a specific sword it should go in... I just want to make sure I put it in the right sword and don't end up having to buy a empty xtal and having it break... legacy is a pretty good sword. almost on par with elemental swords (kloff, sea breeze etc.) i think placing grapagos on tengu(as another upgrade will be implemented) would be good. If you want overall balance for a sword stick with legacy.
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Post by Ryukengan on Nov 15, 2016 19:23:16 GMT
Ardent Sakuro super n00b But so will Legacy of Will, the upgraded stats for both: Red Tengu IV: Weapon ATK+40, Evasion+16%, Critical Damage+19%, Melee up by 1.5 x STR, Melee Pierce up by Level (I think Hidden: Natural HP Recovery x 2 upon defeating an enemy chance) Legacy of Will II: Weapon ATK+25, DEF: 10 (10% Physical Damage Reduction!!), ATK+18%, MaxHP&MP+15%, Hit+15%, Evasion+20%!, Melee Pierce+18%, Item Recovery+15%, ATK up by AGI (~ 50% of AGI), Hidden DEF up by 50% of STR Personally I'd say don't even think about Red Tengu, if you go for AGI then Will of Legacy will stay better both damage, and survivability-wise 99% sure.
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Post by super n00b on Nov 15, 2016 20:04:19 GMT
Ardent Sakuro super n00b But so will Legacy of Will, the upgraded stats for both: Red Tengu IV: Weapon ATK+40, Evasion+16%, Critical Damage+19%, Melee up by 1.5 x STR, Melee Pierce up by Level (I think Hidden: Natural HP Recovery x 2 upon defeating an enemy chance) Legacy of Will II: Weapon ATK+25, DEF: 10 (10% Physical Damage Reduction!!), ATK+18%, MaxHP&MP+15%, Hit+15%, Evasion+20%!, Melee Pierce+18%, Item Recovery+15%, ATK up by AGI (~ 50% of AGI), Hidden DEF up by 50% of STR Personally I'd say don't even think about Red Tengu, if you go for AGI then Will of Legacy will stay better both damage, and survivability-wise 99% sure. Lol, I guess I'll put Garapagos in my Legacy II and just a regular Cerberus in my Red Tengu III.
I personally don't want to part with my Red Tengu because IMO, it is one of the most beautiful swords in Iruna. While Legacy could look better. =3=
As soon as I saw Legacy, I was like are you for real lmao. It kind of feel short on my expectations in the looks department but stats wise, it is one of the best.
On another note, for my main set, is Legacy II +9 Garapagos (haven't actually put it in yet..), Ultimi 2+9 Clean Slot, Passion Robe S (would it be okey to put Raton in this or should I put it in a different add?), & Myrica Wristlet NS okey for now? I still have to farm for a Magonza for my Ultimi...
I do still have my Ira +8 along with a Schwermer +9 in case I need to switch armors..
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Post by Ryukengan on Nov 15, 2016 21:47:02 GMT
super n00b You can do well with Red Tengu too, so if you want to you can use it as your main weapon but statistically speaking Legacy of Will is simply superior, though it is more on the defensive side. The handle of Legacy looks especially horrible. For the Ultimi definitely do get the next up, the materials are much easier than 2 of the most expensive xtals and I'm sure friends already have them lying around in storages (Ouvel rare and Enina 2 uncommon). Personally I really like Passion Robe, other good options are Seperation Arrow, Barbarotita up (since it will get reup), Pratzen up (currently better than Barb but will get overshadowed with the up), Daiginjo up (if you can even out the critical rate of course), Monty Beret (once you get your DEX this will be your go-to option, will also have an up in the future). Pratzen up, Purple Cat Ears from Halloween Event and Raid Spear up (will be out soon) are good options against high DEF monsters. It's always up to personal preference. What I highly recommend you is not to put Raton inside the additional for now if you only want to level/grind on a specific mob. It would be way cheaper and probably even more efficient to use the 15% elemental damage boost xtal for the respective monster. Libersona might also be of your interest as it gives you 10% elemental damage against the fire, water, earth and wind element. As you level up and test out different equip combinations you will find out what you want for yourself.
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Post by super n00b on Nov 15, 2016 22:12:10 GMT
super n00b You can do well with Red Tengu too, so if you want to you can use it as your main weapon but statistically speaking Legacy of Will is simply superior, though it is more on the defensive side. The handle of Legacy looks especially horrible. For the Ultimi definitely do get the next up, the materials are much easier than 2 of the most expensive xtals and I'm sure friends already have them lying around in storages (Ouvel rare and Enina 2 uncommon). Personally I really like Passion Robe, other good options are Seperation Arrow, Barbarotita up (since it will get reup), Pratzen up (currently better than Barb but will get overshadowed with the up), Daiginjo up (if you can even out the critical rate of course), Monty Beret (once you get your DEX this will be your go-to option, will also have an up in the future). Pratzen up, Purple Cat Ears from Halloween Event and Raid Spear up (will be out soon) are good options against high DEF monsters. It's always up to personal preference. What I highly recommend you is not to put Raton inside the additional for now if you only want to level/grind on a specific mob. It would be way cheaper and probably even more efficient to use the 15% elemental damage boost xtal for the respective monster. Libersona might also be of your interest as it gives you 10% elemental damage against the fire, water, earth and wind element. As you level up and test out different equip combinations you will find out what you want for yourself. I think I'll only use Red Tengu when I'm by myself but I'll stick to Legacy as my main. As for Ultimi, I just +9 it yesterday in Elban and then upgraded it all the way so as of right now, I have the final version.
I think Separation Arrow is X Trade and was from an event so I'll have to wait for that again. For Purple Cat Ears, I didn't do a run thru of this past Halloween Event because I was just starting my Gladi but next time I'll def do a run thru. =3=
As for all the other equips, I'll take a look through them and see what I think will work for me. Thanks again. :3
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