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Post by addictux on Sept 4, 2016 8:01:02 GMT
Hi guys im here again. can someone give me a guide of nail beast knight? havent tried only heard but thinking of making one can anyone give a guide about its equips, stats, xtals, ai, and its pros and cons? also seen a video on youtube seems not complete. will vit agi dex work?
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Post by mokie on Sept 7, 2016 7:00:51 GMT
Try to ask this question on beast knight section. I think you will get the answer easier.
Actually, the pro is there are skills that support nail weapons, but the attack skill is not critical, so it is quite useless when you are playing nail.
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Post by addictux on Sept 16, 2016 11:16:27 GMT
Try to ask this question on beast knight section. I think you will get the answer easier. Actually, the pro is there are skills that support nail weapons, but the attack skill is not critical, so it is quite useless when you are playing nail. been there but couldn't find the answer i was looking for and common build is sword type so i doubt many can help on nail type.
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skeewi
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Post by skeewi on Sept 22, 2016 15:59:01 GMT
Simply put, Tyrant spamming as a claw BK just doesn't work. If you have at least 200 vit, you pretty much gain max aspd no matter what, because the interval between attack animation gets cut. You can also use Tyrant without pausing at all before continuing auto attacks. For a claw build, agi is important cuz of obvious reasons (evasion, attack). But str is pretty important because of bleed damage.
I guess this is how I'd structure a nail BK (in order of priority). AGI MAX STR MAX CRT Remaining points Vit = 200 (not a single point more)
Out of all the claws, I would recommend Maniji the most.
If you're building for damage, get Dragon mail re up and Passion Robe.
As someone who plays auto BK, I think people underestimate Bite a bit. I mean, the heal isnt much, but BK barely even need a heal at all tbh. They have high base hp and guard for damage reduction. With just a few pots, I managed to solo mq with my BK, and my BK had no agi, no eva, and only 200 vit.
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Post by addictux on Sept 23, 2016 8:41:07 GMT
Simply put, Tyrant spamming as a claw BK just doesn't work. If you have at least 200 vit, you pretty much gain max aspd no matter what, because the interval between attack animation gets cut. You can also use Tyrant without pausing at all before continuing auto attacks. For a claw build, agi is important cuz of obvious reasons (evasion, attack). But str is pretty important because of bleed damage. I guess this is how I'd structure a nail BK (in order of priority). AGI MAX STR MAX CRT Remaining points Vit = 200 (not a single point more) Out of all the claws, I would recommend Maniji the most. If you're building for damage, get Dragon mail re up and Passion Robe. As someone who plays auto BK, I think people underestimate Bite a bit. I mean, the heal isnt much, but BK barely even need a heal at all tbh. They have high base hp and guard for damage reduction. With just a few pots, I managed to solo mq with my BK, and my BK had no agi, no eva, and only 200 vit. but nail bk seems to have a lot more survival tnx the build seems right and not gonna have any regret doing it as of wep maniji is fine but what about ceduro? armor d.mail? would schwermer be bad? passion robe is add gear? would blancheur be bad? spec what spec e.e? d.stone or ror? ror might make it miss a lot but have higher dmg than normal maybe d.stone
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Post by addictux on Sept 23, 2016 8:44:06 GMT
on 2nd tought i take d.stone back -20% hp? how about showy bangle or stone figurine?
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skeewi
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Post by skeewi on Sept 23, 2016 10:38:59 GMT
Don't use any kind of autoskill on attack, so showy bangle wouldn't work. Schwermer works, but D.Mail re up is better in my opinion. Ceduro works great actually. Blancheur works too, but I prefer Passion Robe. Ror is good yeah, but you will expect a lot of misses unless you have a lot of tech abis and CRT.
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Post by addictux on Sept 24, 2016 7:09:41 GMT
Don't use any kind of autoskill on attack, so showy bangle wouldn't work. Schwermer works, but D.Mail re up is better in my opinion. Ceduro works great actually. Blancheur works too, but I prefer Passion Robe. Ror is good yeah, but you will expect a lot of misses unless you have a lot of tech abis and CRT. would d.claw and hcb be bad to use? and about the stats would it be ok not to put any crt but w/o crt or dex i know i'll miss all the time so how much would crt be fine to leave? like 150? um thinking of this max agi max str 150 crt 200 vit. ik ror makes me miss a lot so i wanna know what would be best spec to use? if having vit would knight gauntlet be good?.
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skeewi
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Post by skeewi on Sept 25, 2016 2:26:44 GMT
would d.claw and hcb be bad to use? and about the stats would it be ok not to put any crt but w/o crt or dex i know i'll miss all the time so how much would crt be fine to leave? like 150? um thinking of this max agi max str 150 crt 200 vit. ik ror makes me miss a lot so i wanna know what would be best spec to use? if having vit would knight gauntlet be good?. Do not use D.Claw and/or HCB. Like I said, autoskills on a BK just don't work because double attack will cancel it's proc. BK claws are basically Ninja claws, your choices come down to one of the three, Maniji, Kodachi or Ceduro. The amount of crt you need depends on the rest of your gear. You need around 285 crt to get 95% crt rate without any kind of equipment or abi that boosts crt rate. Of course, you don't need to get 95% crt rate, but the higher the better. Knight Gauntlet won't work because you need a sword to use it. You can still take something like Volk Shoes or good old Catura Talisman for survival, there's Mermaid Jewel or Atleta for a bit of damage, and ROR for a lot of damage. You're gonna need more than 300 crt to use ROR properly without crt boosting equipments.
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Post by addictux on Sept 25, 2016 6:47:05 GMT
would d.claw and hcb be bad to use? and about the stats would it be ok not to put any crt but w/o crt or dex i know i'll miss all the time so how much would crt be fine to leave? like 150? um thinking of this max agi max str 150 crt 200 vit. ik ror makes me miss a lot so i wanna know what would be best spec to use? if having vit would knight gauntlet be good?. Do not use D.Claw and/or HCB. Like I said, autoskills on a BK just don't work because double attack will cancel it's proc. BK claws are basically Ninja claws, your choices come down to one of the three, Maniji, Kodachi or Ceduro. The amount of crt you need depends on the rest of your gear. You need around 285 crt to get 95% crt rate without any kind of equipment or abi that boosts crt rate. Of course, you don't need to get 95% crt rate, but the higher the better. Knight Gauntlet won't work because you need a sword to use it. You can still take something like Volk Shoes or good old Catura Talisman for survival, there's Mermaid Jewel or Atleta for a bit of damage, and ROR for a lot of damage. You're gonna need more than 300 crt to use ROR properly without crt boosting equipments. if using koda ira eye bandage would ror be good? and ok i get it now sorry im kinda stupid i oftenly do 300 crt on stat and leave it at that then 330 agi and focus on 3rd stat. volk shoes ik its stats and its good. catura talisman idk its stats and it doesn't feel like its in web. mermaid jewel for crt dmg/rate. atleta doesn't seem to be good to use xD i'll be using either volk shoes or ror.
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Post by addictux on Sept 25, 2016 6:52:44 GMT
Simply put, Tyrant spamming as a claw BK just doesn't work. If you have at least 200 vit, you pretty much gain max aspd no matter what, because the interval between attack animation gets cut. You can also use Tyrant without pausing at all before continuing auto attacks. For a claw build, agi is important cuz of obvious reasons (evasion, attack). But str is pretty important because of bleed damage. I guess this is how I'd structure a nail BK (in order of priority). AGI MAX STR MAX CRT Remaining points Vit = 200 (not a single point more) Out of all the claws, I would recommend Maniji the most. If you're building for damage, get Dragon mail re up and Passion Robe. As someone who plays auto BK, I think people underestimate Bite a bit. I mean, the heal isnt much, but BK barely even need a heal at all tbh. They have high base hp and guard for damage reduction. With just a few pots, I managed to solo mq with my BK, and my BK had no agi, no eva, and only 200 vit. i forgot to ask as of a nail do i need 200 vit as well? or like other nail class get atleast 50 vit (except ninja)
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skeewi
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Post by skeewi on Sept 25, 2016 7:12:22 GMT
i forgot to ask as of a nail do i need 200 vit as well? or like other nail class get atleast 50 vit (except ninja) Only if you plan to clone. If you don't expect to maintain a single clone, you can ignore vit and just put the extra 200 stats anywhere you want.
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Post by addictux on Sept 25, 2016 7:23:06 GMT
i forgot to ask as of a nail do i need 200 vit as well? or like other nail class get atleast 50 vit (except ninja) Only if you plan to clone. If you don't expect to maintain a single clone, you can ignore vit and just put the extra 200 stats anywhere you want. having 1 clone requires vit 200+? having clone atleast 1 is beneficial in all class and having high eva makes you only get hit by magic attack most of the time but at this build yeah i'm not expecting to maintain a clone but it if having max agi crt and str i guess i can maintain the clone but to do that i need to be lvl 340 and max apos lvl.
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Post by skeewi on Sept 25, 2016 9:54:15 GMT
having 1 clone requires vit 200+? having clone atleast 1 is beneficial in all class and having high eva makes you only get hit by magic attack most of the time but at this build yeah i'm not expecting to maintain a clone but it if having max agi crt and str i guess i can maintain the clone but to do that i need to be lvl 340 and max apos lvl. 200 vit with diel style 3 removes the attack interval. You know how after you use an attack skill, there's a pause where you do absolutely nothing for 1 second? 200 vit removes that pause. Which lets you use Tyrant without losing a second to doing nothing.
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Post by addictux on Sept 26, 2016 6:37:25 GMT
having 1 clone requires vit 200+? having clone atleast 1 is beneficial in all class and having high eva makes you only get hit by magic attack most of the time but at this build yeah i'm not expecting to maintain a clone but it if having max agi crt and str i guess i can maintain the clone but to do that i need to be lvl 340 and max apos lvl. 200 vit with diel style 3 removes the attack interval. You know how after you use an attack skill, there's a pause where you do absolutely nothing for 1 second? 200 vit removes that pause. Which lets you use Tyrant without losing a second to doing nothing. so i guess i'll have minimum of 200 vit. so maybe i'll do 256 agi crt and 200 vit rest will be str. btw i saw a nail bk vid use d.claw n hcb.
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