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Post by tadashi on Jul 23, 2016 4:09:17 GMT
I've tried all classes except gladiator and at first I was gonna make a berserker build but come to find out it would be basically useless after tempest. So I wanna how to distribute my stats. Mainly how to go about adding STR and CRT. I know there's probably forums already about this so if you know some please let me know, Mmk thanks :3
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Post by Ardent Sakuro on Jul 23, 2016 22:32:01 GMT
go agi crt using claws. then start adding a few vit (around 50 will do).
max agi and crt (256, pre apostolia)
then start adding str, continue adding crt and stop adding agi.
compare outputs when equiping a sword vs equiping a claw. when swords starts to beat claws, drop the claws.
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Eaysley
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"These violent delights have violent ends."
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Post by Eaysley on Jul 23, 2016 23:50:03 GMT
How do you intend to level up? By MQ? I suggest you prioritize VIT and STR as you'll reply a lot on Hard Hit and Solid Skin (Hard Hit attack is based on ATK, barrier from Solid Skin based on STR) . You'll need lots of those + HP percent + Myrica Wristlet (you'll only get HP from this if you use swords). I suggest you DO NOT go for claw build as you pretty much wont be able to solo anything.
Plan how much VIT you want for your gladiator. I personally only have 125. You can get as much VIT as that first (prioritize it) then max STR (pre-apostolia) then CRT next. You'll have ample STR and CRT by the time you reach 200's Pillar Blade skill (your damage will be lower than average if you have put 256 agi by this time since AGI doesn't add to Pillar Blade damage, it will also have no benefit but mediocre EVA, which will not evade most attacks so you'll still rely on Solid Skin). If you wish to have high critical rate in earlier levels, you can put Technique abilities on your equipment. You can get those from raids.
LEAVE AGI FOR LAST since you'll only get damage and significant EVA and ASPD buff from it at Level220.
Good luck ^_^ hope you enjoy gladiator. Don't get too discouraged if the damage you have isn't very high. Gladiators are late bloomers and tend to be very powerful only at high levels. If you wait for it, it'll be worth it.
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Post by tadashi on Jul 24, 2016 4:35:47 GMT
How do you intend to level up? By MQ? I suggest you prioritize VIT and STR as you'll reply a lot on Hard Hit and Solid Skin (Hard Hit attack is based on ATK, barrier from Solid Skin based on STR) . You'll need lots of those + HP percent + Myrica Wristlet (you'll only get HP from this if you use swords). I suggest you DO NOT go for claw build as you pretty much wont be able to solo anything. Plan how much VIT you want for your gladiator. I personally only have 125. You can get as much VIT as that first (prioritize it) then max STR (pre-apostolia) then CRT next. You'll have ample STR and CRT by the time you reach 200's Pillar Blade skill (your damage will be lower than average if you have put 256 agi by this time since AGI doesn't add to Pillar Blade damage, it will also have no benefit but mediocre EVA, which will not evade most attacks so you'll still rely on Solid Skin). If you wish to have high critical rate in earlier levels, you can put Technique abilities on your equipment. You can get those from raids. LEAVE AGI FOR LAST since you'll only get damage and significant EVA and ASPD buff from it at Level220. Good luck ^_^ hope you enjoy gladiator. Don't get too discouraged if the damage you have isn't very high. Gladiators are late bloomers and tend to be very powerful only at high levels. If you wait for it, it'll be worth it. so how should I start off my build? I was thinking Like 50 vit then CRT using claw and chignon and str using stake knuckles. Idk how well that would go but something to off with since I have absolutely no exp in gladiator. With that claw I could still sorta dps while focusing on CRT and STR... Idk x.x
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Eaysley
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Post by Eaysley on Jul 24, 2016 7:54:42 GMT
I already told you my recommendation. Quite long actually. Perhaps it is hard for you to understand? I'll repost in bullets.
1. Prioritize VIT and HP in your early levels. Plan ahead of time how much VIT you want for your character's end stats. 2. Max STR to 256 as you'll rely on Attack/Berserk/Hard Hit before you get Astute and Pillar Blade. Barrier from Solid Skin is also based on STR. 3. Max your CRT next. By the time you get Astute and Pillar Blade, you'll have plenty of stats already. If you wish to hit crit at earlier levels, you may get Technique abilities from raids. 4. Overcap STR and CRT. 5. Add AGI. You'll only benefit from this at Level 220+.
These are merely my suggestions. I suggest you stick to using swords as you'll get a huge HP boost from Myrica Wristlet as compared to using a claw. Another thing is that the 2 main attacks of Gladiators are sword exclusive. (Pillar Blade and Sword Tempest)
Don't worry too much about "DPS". It'll be mediocre at early levels. You woundn't want to have your character have mediocre survivability while having mediocre damage as well.
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Post by raven on Jul 25, 2016 1:17:26 GMT
How much skill delay is required for pillar blade and S.Tempest... ?
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Post by Kazu on Jul 26, 2016 8:57:32 GMT
How much skill delay is required for pillar blade and S.Tempest... ? -2s for pillar N -5s for tempest
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Post by raven on Jul 26, 2016 9:04:27 GMT
How much skill delay is required for pillar blade and S.Tempest... ? -2s for pillar N -5s for tempest That's without any dex?
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Post by Kazu on Jul 26, 2016 9:06:45 GMT
-2s for pillar N -5s for tempest That's without any dex? Yep. 115 DEX is a reduction by -1s for pillar
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Post by raven on Jul 26, 2016 10:20:27 GMT
Thanks a lot!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2016 11:55:44 GMT
Yep. 115 DEX is a reduction by -1s for pillar And approximately 93~95 dex per 0.5s reduction of tempest. (I tested it personally). So 280 dex makes it -1.5s
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Post by raven on Jul 26, 2016 13:29:57 GMT
Then...we have to max dex as third stat??? I only have -1.5 s delay with 1 dex at lvl 160. Will i be alright? 0.0
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2016 14:22:26 GMT
If your concern is to spam tempest with vit I think thats not a problem you just have to allocate your points wisely. As you know its give and take.
Lets assume your main armor is Ultimi re upg and additional gear is Monty Beret
Your Possible options are (which I can think of ok? XD) Maelriel+Cheltil+Monty+Ultimi3+3 QCs
Mael+Cheltil+Monty+Ultimi3+280 Dex (my current)
Or (My actual plan)
Monty+Ultimi3+3QC+280 Dex
Those options have same output of -5s
Also I only change into better add when there is a Bishop whos 240+
But like I said, refer that tempest cooldown reduction is 93~94 dex per 0.5s (which I personally tested). So I'm not saying you need the 280 dex, you can experiment it if youre just putting X amount of dex and put on vit something like that.
Btw, my post has nothing to do with your question regarding on stat distribution while you lvl its just a reference for your possible options with that build in regards of spamming tempest since that build is a tempedt build as well. XD
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Post by raven on Jul 30, 2016 1:07:49 GMT
Thanks for the post. I'm not sure if i got it with my slow brain but hm.. I could use evil dragon wing,right? It has -2s delay. So i could use some atk xtal there... Atleast until i start putting enough dex ,it should help me right?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2016 2:39:39 GMT
Thanks for the post. I'm not sure if i got it with my slow brain but hm.. I could use evil dragon wing,right? It has -2s delay. So i could use some atk xtal there... Atleast until i start putting enough dex ,it should help me right? That shouldn't be a problem unless you want to use tempest spam in grind. But I suggest that you make 300 crt 300 str atleast before putting additional dex. However, that wing wont help that much because you will lack potential damage compare with other additional gears so I suggest just stick to monty around 260 you can spam it with bloodthirst temporarily before you achieve your desired amount of dex for spamming. For the meantime I suggest str and crt and make use of pillar blade. Though you can use tempest for grind (even not as a spammer yet) its ideal if you have dual blow along with tempest.
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