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May 11, 2014 12:36:40 GMT
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Post by MadMoon on May 11, 2014 12:36:40 GMT
i hav a gladiator lvl 143, stats: max vit rest str, so im using katzbalger atm~ I noticed that my cross counter only deals 1 dmg! Hmmm, so on wat stat is cross counter based at?
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May 12, 2014 0:04:48 GMT
Post by MiLiGRiTo on May 12, 2014 0:04:48 GMT
i hav a gladiator lvl 143, stats: max vit rest str, so im using katzbalger atm~ I noticed that my cross counter only deals 1 dmg! Hmmm, so on wat stat is cross counter based at? You get 1 additional attack for cross counter (but cannot proc double attack), you might be getting 1dmg due to hit rate (you miss). Thats my best guess.
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aroxis
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May 12, 2014 5:12:22 GMT
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Post by aroxis on May 12, 2014 5:12:22 GMT
i hav a gladiator lvl 143, stats: max vit rest str, so im using katzbalger atm~ I noticed that my cross counter only deals 1 dmg! Hmmm, so on wat stat is cross counter based at? You get 1 additional attack for cross counter (but cannot proc double attack), you might be getting 1dmg due to hit rate (you miss). Thats my best guess. Its probably based on crit. The proper glad build you should be going for is Vit/crit/dex
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May 12, 2014 10:58:28 GMT
Post by MadMoon on May 12, 2014 10:58:28 GMT
oh!! damm!! x3 thanks 4 answers sires btw, im planning on making my build VIT/STR/DEX because i from the beggining was thinking of changing to samurai at lvl 160 or so :·3
oh n another thing...ive been testing my cross counter at both high n low lvl, n it seems lik at higher lvl mobs, my cross dealt 1 dmg TT, but at lower lvls it was quite random, i dealt around 1-1k, but no more than 2k..lawl
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May 13, 2014 1:26:14 GMT
Post by MiLiGRiTo on May 13, 2014 1:26:14 GMT
oh!! damm!! x3 thanks 4 answers sires btw, im planning on making my build VIT/STR/DEX because i from the beggining was thinking of changing to samurai at lvl 160 or so :·3 oh n another thing...ive been testing my cross counter at both high n low lvl, n it seems lik at higher lvl mobs, my cross dealt 1 dmg TT, but at lower lvls it was quite random, i dealt around 1-1k, but no more than 2k..lawl Well, yeah, lower level mobs are easier to hit than higher levels. I would have recommended you to go Paladin if you had posted earlier before you made the change. I'd imagine it can be quite difficult to level with a Gladiator without CRT. Anyways, you would just have to suck it up until you get to 160 and become a Samurai, you'd do so much better then.
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May 13, 2014 6:07:47 GMT
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Post by MadMoon on May 13, 2014 6:07:47 GMT
Jaja true!
If i had postes b4 i brcame a glad i wouldnt knw my cross was so weak n i wouldnt even think of makin this thread XD
Oh n, my only use right now zzzzz tanking >_< oh n 1 question... im planning to buy "crt equips" Dunkelheit Voluntas Hellshaft and 3 himmels~ sounds gud?xp
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May 13, 2014 9:36:06 GMT
Post by MiLiGRiTo on May 13, 2014 9:36:06 GMT
Jaja true! If i had postes b4 i brcame a glad i wouldnt knw my cross was so weak n i wouldnt even think of makin this thread XD Oh n, my only use right now zzzzz tanking >_< oh n 1 question... im planning to buy "crt equips" Dunkelheit Voluntas Hellshaft and 3 himmels~ sounds gud?xp You can definitely work out to improve your crit rate via equipment and live with 1 CRT stat. You start with 5 crit rate base. Hellshaft will give you +30 crit rate more. I reckon you would have 182 STR by now (if you are only VIT/STR) so it would give you ample ATK bonus since it is a normal sword. You can use schwartz since you have lots of HP anyway. Increase your damage by a bit as well as +10 crit rate. Shiorito is +12 crit rate if upgraded, +10 if normal. aside from crit rate xtals, you can take advantage of ability: ☆ Technology (actually called Technique in ENG) Brunos - Bow Magonza - Claw Hailos, Jabek - Armor Hydra, Cerebus, Mater, Minotaur - Additional Effect Lv1: Critical rate +5 Lv2: Critical rate +10 Lv3: Critical rate +15 Lv4: Critical rate +20 Lv5: Critical rate +25 You can use ability for armor, additional and accessory (yes, abilities work in accessories). Fairly easy to make the max 95 crit rate without the heavy investments (like Lost Knight xtal, which is very costly I assume). The only drawback is, without CRT, your dmg multiplier would be very low, so if you deal 1 to 2k normal you'd probably hit around 1.7k to 3.4k single CRT. Which is why you need to make use of ATK or CRT DMG up gears alongside with the crt rate. +9 your weapon to boost your damage too.
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May 13, 2014 9:59:33 GMT
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Post by MadMoon on May 13, 2014 9:59:33 GMT
well, i also though of shiroito up, but that would mean ill need a new additional equip...(im not sure, but i think the crt rate voluntas gives only works wit dunkelheit) I also though of using scwartz but -20% jst seem too much for me, i hav about 16k hp...n wit schwartz about 13k TT
*imagine* do u think berserker would b useless wit 1crt but wit 10000000 crt rate? x)
oh well... i think ill farm the technique ability wit my ninja atm xP
thanks soooo much!!!
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May 13, 2014 23:54:21 GMT
Post by MiLiGRiTo on May 13, 2014 23:54:21 GMT
You can use knight gauntlet (hp15%) to minimize the schwartz penalty and also gain +30 atk and +64 atk from your 256 vit which is a serious atk bonus. From my assumption of your atk values which lands about 1k+ to 1.5k+ using hellshaft+9 you would hit around 2k+ single with 1crt. If you gear it right you might get it to 3k to 4k and over, single which is not so bad since you only have 1crt.
When you pair it with cross counter you should see 3 to 4 dmg numbers pop in your screen every second provided that you are tanking the mob/boss. So thats around 9 to 12k dps if you have 3k crt single.
You can take advantage of your vit on physical mobs like tigris by wearing a simple onigawara. They will hit you with 1dmg (100 at best, and that's occassionally). You tank 4 of them and they'll have a hard time taking down your 16k hp with 1dmg. You will see around 4 to 6 dmg numbers per second when you tank 4 of them and they will mostly die from your counter rather than your attack, unless you hit the berserk button, but that's really not necessary.
You see, hit rate is more important than your dmg. Why try to hit 6k dmg when you miss most of the time when you can hit 3k all the time. (Well of course a good glad build will hit 9k and over all the time, but they have full str and crt)
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May 22, 2014 11:24:35 GMT
Post by roll right, roll hard! on May 22, 2014 11:24:35 GMT
Hallo ur conception is great, u dont tell "no change that now!" u trying really help, thats nice.
If u can please take a look on my build:
Vit 43 Agi 227 Cri 214
Koda2 +9 + bossheit d.mail +9 +kaiser h.helm +9 +20%hp ( soon h.helm up / here i want change xtail ) mermaid Jawel
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May 23, 2014 7:11:53 GMT
Post by MiLiGRiTo on May 23, 2014 7:11:53 GMT
Hallo ur conception is great, u dont tell "no change that now!" u trying really help, thats nice. If u can please take a look on my build: Vit 43 Agi 227 Cri 214 Koda2 +9 + bossheit d.mail +9 +kaiser h.helm +9 +20%hp ( soon h.helm up / here i want change xtail ) mermaid Jawel I'm guessing you will have around 900-1000ATK and prolly around 1.1k to 1.2kATKwith buffs and prolly around 8k hp with your gear, which lands you at about 3k-4k single and 5k to 6k double crit. What you might want to do is to increase your DPS by using standard Attack or CRT damage xtals like, Plazuda, Magonza, Cerberus, Boss Colon, etc. and Ganei for your special equip. You might want to use a seahorse bangle to increase your survivability. The downside of your build is your counter attack will not proc when you evade because you have to be hit in order to counter attack. This lowers your potential DPS. And your damage is significantly smaller than a STR/CRT/VIT berserk build with a sword since they will have higher ATK values (1 STR = 3 ATK versus your 1AGI = 2ATK). Plus swords normally have higher ATK than Claws. Your advantage is you use less MP pots since you don't need to berserk. This build is good for solo mob grind. You might have problems getting boss party grinds as you can't really tank well and your DPS isn't really that good.
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May 23, 2014 8:49:25 GMT
Post by roll right, roll hard! on May 23, 2014 8:49:25 GMT
thx, that's all true, my build works perfect for grinding on mobs like dw, rokers, opis and other. there are some bosses i can solo like halios, sauro, wiza, burnos, hydra, bossheit.... My dayly workplan is always farm some pots to farm some mobs... using potions all the time ;] so i think i may try make all gear have item use reduction time... or just put everywhere Kasier xtail ( i pref this bsc it dont have any "-" to status". Mabe at 180 i change my build to swords dps ( i tryied before on 140 lvl it wasnt for me - im grinding all time..)One more thing u write about counter, its so strong? I pref build agi bcs i dont often get hited and i like that way..i read about koda 3 ... so im confused ;]
sory for my eng i wont use it for years and it may by unanderstandable;]
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May 26, 2014 1:48:00 GMT
Post by MiLiGRiTo on May 26, 2014 1:48:00 GMT
thx, that's all true, my build works perfect for grinding on mobs like dw, rokers, opis and other. there are some bosses i can solo like halios, sauro, wiza, burnos, hydra, bossheit.... My dayly workplan is always farm some pots to farm some mobs... using potions all the time ;] so i think i may try make all gear have item use reduction time... or just put everywhere Kasier xtail ( i pref this bsc it dont have any "-" to status". Mabe at 180 i change my build to swords dps ( i tryied before on 140 lvl it wasnt for me - im grinding all time..)One more thing u write about counter, its so strong? I pref build agi bcs i dont often get hited and i like that way..i read about koda 3 ... so im confused ;] sory for my eng i wont use it for years and it may by unanderstandable;] Yes, AGI can tank low level bosses too, so it really is excellent at lower levels, which is why old warrior class were mostly AGI builds. "-" status gears are usually penalized because they are stronger. You just have to know how to minimize the impact or understand how it affects you. E.g. Boss colon has -4% def penalty. This 4% of your def is insignificant (you maybe have around what >100def? If mobs deal 500dmg to you because of -4% def, you would reduce it to 496dmg by avoiding boss colon xtal. You wouldn't even feel it. And most attacks you evade anyway). The trade off is +12ATK and +6%ATK which lets you kill mobs faster (in turn, take less hits because you killed it earlier than you would with low ATK gear) 180 is a good reset point because you get regen skill which is also awesome and makes you solo boss grind faster (you don't have to sit down to rest). Counter is like having an extra attack each time you get hit. If you fight a fast attack mob and click berserk, it would look like you are on interfike xtal but without the penalty. So yeah, it IS strong. Plus, it works even if you are stunned, so you don't even need to hit a mob to kill it.
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Jun 9, 2014 6:15:36 GMT
Post by jennis on Jun 9, 2014 6:15:36 GMT
just wanna share,
i got max crit and when cross counter is activated usually it deals 6k to 6.5k on tigris
current eq is. r tengu hp20% schwartz up bc h helm bc k gunt/atleta ns
it really kills mobs even without hitting them.
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