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Post by Cerulean on Jul 19, 2016 7:03:00 GMT
vit+50% of lv. Try something else uhhh, thats flat vit bro, there is no such thing as vit+% if level 340 u get 170 vit from it. ots pretty simple, i havent teseted this tbh but vit from gears like myrica probably wont work, ill test later "vit up based on 50% of level with swords" how about trying to be less narrow minded and try a gear with vit+## they aren't that expensive e.e
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Post by nic123 on Jul 19, 2016 23:14:11 GMT
uhhh, thats flat vit bro, there is no such thing as vit+% if level 340 u get 170 vit from it. ots pretty simple, i havent teseted this tbh but vit from gears like myrica probably wont work, ill test later "vit up based on 50% of level with swords" how about trying to be less narrow minded and try a gear with vit+## they aren't that expensive e.e *facepalm* vit+50% of level means u get ##vit depending on ur level. if you are level 50 and u use this u get 25 vit. (must be with swords), vit is not hp, u can have hp+400 and even hp+20% no such thing as vit+50%, meaning myrica adds vit# depending on level, i cant make it much clearer
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Post by Cerulean on Jul 19, 2016 23:58:16 GMT
"vit up based on 50% of level with swords" how about trying to be less narrow minded and try a gear with vit+## they aren't that expensive e.e *facepalm* vit+50% of level means u get ##vit depending on ur level. if you are level 50 and u use this u get 25 vit. (must be with swords), vit is not hp, u can have hp+400 and even hp+20% no such thing as vit+50%, meaning myrica adds vit# depending on level, i cant make it much clearer Oh sweet Jesus. Is it beyond you to grasp the concept that it can be calculated differently because it's an invisible number that fluctuates based on your level or is that too hard for you? I know what myrica does, it isn't new. You're not the developer so you can't produce irrefutable evidence on how it's calculated. So let's try again shall we Mr narrow mind lol
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Post by nic123 on Jul 20, 2016 22:25:05 GMT
*facepalm* vit+50% of level means u get ##vit depending on ur level. if you are level 50 and u use this u get 25 vit. (must be with swords), vit is not hp, u can have hp+400 and even hp+20% no such thing as vit+50%, meaning myrica adds vit# depending on level, i cant make it much clearer Oh sweet Jesus. Is it beyond you to grasp the concept that it can be calculated differently because it's an invisible number that fluctuates based on your level or is that too hard for you? I know what myrica does, it isn't new. You're not the developer so you can't produce irrefutable evidence on how it's calculated. So let's try again shall we Mr narrow mind lol the problem here is simple. u think ur right, and u wont listen to what i have to say :/. how can it be invisible if u see the effects of gaining the additional vit. all i was saying was that there is no such thing as vit+% as u previously stated. i didnt say it couldnt be calculated differently. i was just stating vit+% is not a thing. because u said maybe try a different thing that doesent add vit+%. by this i assumed u mean something like blancheur which adds vit+6 or something. my one and only point was that vit+% is not a thing. and nothing else. now please dont reply because the thread is derailing. if u dont like what i said u could have ignored.
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Post by _ on Jul 20, 2016 23:30:58 GMT
both of y'all are saying the same darn thing in different formats 50% of level becomes vit or half of level + vit same bloody thing
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Post by isntjoaquim on Jul 20, 2016 23:40:25 GMT
He is confusing max hp% with vit%...
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Post by Cerulean on Jul 21, 2016 1:49:57 GMT
Oh sweet Jesus. Is it beyond you to grasp the concept that it can be calculated differently because it's an invisible number that fluctuates based on your level or is that too hard for you? I know what myrica does, it isn't new. You're not the developer so you can't produce irrefutable evidence on how it's calculated. So let's try again shall we Mr narrow mind lol the problem here is simple. u think ur right, and u wont listen to what i have to say :/. how can it be invisible if u see the effects of gaining the additional vit. all i was saying was that there is no such thing as vit+% as u previously stated. i didnt say it couldnt be calculated differently. i was just stating vit+% is not a thing. because u said maybe try a different thing that doesent add vit+%. by this i assumed u mean something like blancheur which adds vit+6 or something. my one and only point was that vit+% is not a thing. and nothing else. now please dont reply because the thread is derailing. if u dont like what i said u could have ignored. "Vit up based on 50% of level"That's an increase based on a % right? So its vit+50% of current level right? So its an increase based on a % right? That means its vit+% lol So as I said before, its a increases subject to change so they should try an equipment with a static number on it. "Try vit+## rather than vit+%%" simply for the testing reasons of since it fluctuates based on 50% level try one with a static increase.
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Post by ManaKhe on Jul 21, 2016 2:39:09 GMT
Myrica's VIT is neither a flat number anymore so than VIT+% would be nor is it actually VIT+%. It's just a dynamic number based on level just as VIT+% is a dynamic number based on VIT. Tadah problem solved lol. It may be worth checking a normal flat VIT bonus instead of Myrica though. I get the feeling Myrica might do weird stuff with Struggler haha.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2016 11:39:02 GMT
Lemme work out a formula here:
So Myrica is "VIT up by 50% of Lv with Swords."
Translating to math, it becomes:
VIT + (Lv * 50%)
As an example, let's say a Lv 200 uses Myrica with a sword:
= VIT + (200 * 50%) = VIT + 100
Just to put it out here, here's an example of a something+% item:
Auler: ASPD+10%
Now the formula here would be:
ASPD + (ASPD * 10%) or ASPD * (1 + 10%)
Let's say you have 100 ASPD:
= 100 + (100 * 10%) or = 100 * (1 + 10%) = 100 + 10 or = 100 * (1 + 0.1) = 110 or = 100 * 1.1 = 110
I don't want to brag, but I'm pretty good in math. Anyone can use my formulas here and I can assure them they'll get correct results. Out of topic, but I hope this issue is resolved. I don't want a fight on my thread ;-;
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Post by isntjoaquim on Jul 21, 2016 11:59:33 GMT
Lemme work out a formula here:
So Myrica is "VIT up by 50% of Lv with Swords."
Translating to math, it becomes:
VIT + (Lv * 50%)
As an example, let's say a Lv 200 uses Myrica with a sword:
= VIT + (200 * 50%) = VIT + 100
Just to put it out here, here's an example of a something+% item:
Auler: ASPD+10%
Now the formula here would be:
ASPD + (ASPD * 10%) or ASPD * (1 + 10%)
Let's say you have 100 ASPD:
= 100 + (100 * 10%) or = 100 * (1 + 10%) = 100 + 10 or = 100 * (1 + 0.1) = 110 or = 100 * 1.1 = 110
I don't want to brag, but I'm pretty good in math. Anyone can use my formulas here and I can assure them they'll get correct results. Out of topic, but I hope this issue is resolved. I don't want a fight on my thread ;-; simplifying, "vit up by 50% of lv" = vit + lv/2 Isnt a vit%, its a lv% turned into vit :]
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Eaysley
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"These violent delights have violent ends."
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Post by Eaysley on Jul 21, 2016 13:17:51 GMT
I think the confusion here is this:
1. Someone says there is no item currently that gives VIT+**% which is correct. 2. Confused with Myrica's effect, which is actually VIT+(Lvl*50%) which is also correct. It's not a VIT+ a certain percentage but rather VIT + a percentage of something, in this case 50% of current level.
It's more of a misunderstanding than an argument.
As for OP, Myrica's VIT does give MATK bonus from Struggler.
This is with my Gladiator with 125 VIT points, 1 INT,1 DEX Matk: 30 Equips: Air Strum Oritius Ultimi 3 Iniliba Sepa Raton Myrica Noid
Matk: 818 (lol Imma wizard) Equips: Air Strum Oritius Struggler Moldus Sepa Raton Myrica Noid
Maybe we can put the Myrica thing to rest. Keep in mind, Myrica wouldn't be too useful because it will only work with swords.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2016 13:37:26 GMT
I think the confusion here is this: 1. Someone says there is no item currently that gives VIT+**% which is correct. 2. Confused with Myrica's effect, which is actually VIT+(Lvl*50%) which is also correct. It's not a VIT+ a certain percentage but rather VIT + a percentage of something, in this case 50% of current level. It's more of a misunderstanding than an argument. As for OP, Myrica's VIT does give MATK bonus from Struggler. This is with my Gladiator with 125 VIT points, 1 INT,1 DEX Matk: 30 Equips: Air Strum Oritius Ultimi 3 Iniliba Sepa Raton Myrica Noid Matk: 818 (lol Imma wizard) Equips: Air Strum Oritius Struggler Moldus Sepa Raton Myrica Noid Maybe we can put the Myrica thing to rest. Keep in mind, Myrica wouldn't be too useful because it will only work with swords. May I know your Gladiator's level o.o? I have to try Struggler on my Magic Ninja again *^*
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Eaysley
Community Contributor
"These violent delights have violent ends."
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Post by Eaysley on Jul 21, 2016 14:18:43 GMT
I'm 313. The struggler's def is 16. You might ask that too.
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Post by nic123 on Jul 22, 2016 0:18:44 GMT
Lemme work out a formula here:
So Myrica is "VIT up by 50% of Lv with Swords."
Translating to math, it becomes:
VIT + (Lv * 50%)
As an example, let's say a Lv 200 uses Myrica with a sword:
= VIT + (200 * 50%) = VIT + 100
Just to put it out here, here's an example of a something+% item:
Auler: ASPD+10%
Now the formula here would be:
ASPD + (ASPD * 10%) or ASPD * (1 + 10%)
Let's say you have 100 ASPD:
= 100 + (100 * 10%) or = 100 * (1 + 10%) = 100 + 10 or = 100 * (1 + 0.1) = 110 or = 100 * 1.1 = 110
I don't want to brag, but I'm pretty good in math. Anyone can use my formulas here and I can assure them they'll get correct results. Out of topic, but I hope this issue is resolved. I don't want a fight on my thread ;-; @cerulean
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Post by nic123 on Jul 22, 2016 0:21:06 GMT
I wonder about this. Would struggler only add matk based on your stat vit or does job bonus, abi, and xtal vit also affect it? I tried dia espada up, struggler ns, and myrica on my ninja and nothing happened, so it's safe to assume vit from gears does not help raise matk. try something with vit+## not +% @cerulean
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