Eaysley
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"These violent delights have violent ends."
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Post by Eaysley on Jul 11, 2016 14:50:28 GMT
Ok tested Strug Up ns d16 int1 abi vs Strug Up s d17 no abi no xtal On my bishop (242) Int 317 (apo over capped to 70 Vit 227 (apo only overcapped to 50) The D16 got her matk to 4.1k The D17 got her matk to 4.2k (A lil' over 100 matk) (So yes I say def does matter with strug) Can you screencap?
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Pixie
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Post by Pixie on Jul 14, 2016 20:44:11 GMT
Refinement values may also play a part....
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Post by nic123 on Jul 14, 2016 22:04:16 GMT
Struggler will be irrelevant as soon as that armor that gives 1 MATK per INT and -1 SD comes out. Anyway it stopped giving me MATK after 180 VIT. Bishop here. 1 matk per int wud cap at 400+ ish while strug adds 700 base matk at strug cap unless im mistaken sumhow?
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Post by ●Kittkat on Jul 15, 2016 0:12:53 GMT
Just to update my findings my bishop is at Lvl 220 now, I was still receiving matk from vit @214 vit. Stopped getting at 215 but after leveling a few more times I'll retest. I'm 98% sure last time I restatted my enchanter from aa to magic blade I stopped getting at around 184-187 vit. I'd love to know the actual formula but for now I'm loving the extra matk on my bishop because my apostolia level is caught up lol.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2016 9:39:11 GMT
Can we finally set in stone that Struggler's DEF value does not relate to the MATK boost in any way at all?
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Post by nic123 on Jul 18, 2016 14:22:29 GMT
how was the def even a theory??? obviously armour defense wouldnt affect matk, unless armour says matk up by defense or something of the sort. anyway stuggler vit cap is probably determined by level/matk xtals, as you level up ur stats go up a bit, like as you level ur hp will rise a little, maybe thats it. or maybe it depends on your matk xtals and other matk equips. either way the cap is usually 170-180ish
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Post by Cerulean on Jul 18, 2016 17:05:53 GMT
I believe it also take into consideration some classes have a passive vit+# from job mastery
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2016 19:25:13 GMT
how was the def even a theory??? obviously armour defense wouldnt affect matk, unless armour says matk up by defense or something of the sort. anyway stuggler vit cap is probably determined by level/matk xtals, as you level up ur stats go up a bit, like as you level ur hp will rise a little, maybe thats it. or maybe it depends on your matk xtals and other matk equips. either way the cap is usually 170-180ish <-- does not believe in the theory, but I don't wanna be rude so XD. But I don't believe that 180 is cap, because like some of us here experienced, including me, adding more than 180 vit still gives matk (mine stopped at 209, bishop Lv200+)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2016 19:28:59 GMT
I believe it also take into consideration some classes have a passive vit+# from job mastery I wonder about this. Would struggler only add matk based on your stat vit or does job bonus, abi, and xtal vit also affect it? I tried dia espada up, struggler ns, and myrica on my ninja and nothing happened, so it's safe to assume vit from gears does not help raise matk.
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Post by Cerulean on Jul 18, 2016 19:36:53 GMT
I believe it also take into consideration some classes have a passive vit+# from job mastery I wonder about this. Would struggler only add matk based on your stat vit or does job bonus, abi, and xtal vit also affect it? I tried dia espada up, struggler ns, and myrica on my ninja and nothing happened, so it's safe to assume vit from gears does not help raise matk. try something with vit+## not +%
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2016 19:42:22 GMT
I wonder about this. Would struggler only add matk based on your stat vit or does job bonus, abi, and xtal vit also affect it? I tried dia espada up, struggler ns, and myrica on my ninja and nothing happened, so it's safe to assume vit from gears does not help raise matk. try something with vit+## not +% I'm sorry, what did you mean by this o.o? Afaik, Myrica adds a flat vit value, that depends on 50% or 1/2 of your Lv.
Edit: Please correct me if I'm wrong. I do not use Myrica often XD
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Post by Cerulean on Jul 18, 2016 19:52:53 GMT
try something with vit+## not +% I'm sorry, what did you mean by this o.o? Afaik, Myrica adds a flat vit value, that depends on 50% or 1/2 of your Lv.
Edit: Please correct me if I'm wrong. I do not use Myrica often XD vit+50% of lv. Try something else
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Eaysley
Community Contributor
"These violent delights have violent ends."
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Post by Eaysley on Jul 19, 2016 1:01:58 GMT
try something with vit+## not +% I'm sorry, what did you mean by this o.o? Afaik, Myrica adds a flat vit value, that depends on 50% or 1/2 of your Lv.
Edit: Please correct me if I'm wrong. I do not use Myrica often XDcorrect but only if you use it with a sword.
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Post by nic123 on Jul 19, 2016 4:15:01 GMT
I'm sorry, what did you mean by this o.o? Afaik, Myrica adds a flat vit value, that depends on 50% or 1/2 of your Lv.
Edit: Please correct me if I'm wrong. I do not use Myrica often XD vit+50% of lv. Try something else uhhh, thats flat vit bro, there is no such thing as vit+% if level 340 u get 170 vit from it. ots pretty simple, i havent teseted this tbh but vit from gears like myrica probably wont work, ill test later
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Post by nic123 on Jul 19, 2016 4:16:40 GMT
how was the def even a theory??? obviously armour defense wouldnt affect matk, unless armour says matk up by defense or something of the sort. anyway stuggler vit cap is probably determined by level/matk xtals, as you level up ur stats go up a bit, like as you level ur hp will rise a little, maybe thats it. or maybe it depends on your matk xtals and other matk equips. either way the cap is usually 170-180ish <-- does not believe in the theory, but I don't wanna be rude so XD. But I don't believe that 180 is cap, because like some of us here experienced, including me, adding more than 180 vit still gives matk (mine stopped at 209, bishop Lv200+)
sorry i meant at level cap, struggler wasnt out when i was -280 so i cant really say for sure about being low level with it
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