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Post by Faylyne on Mar 16, 2016 3:11:38 GMT
Well, maybe it's a lag or it's a bug. Actually you can see if it's right double spellburst or no by seeing ur normal earthshaker damage. Example : your normal earthshaker damage is 10k. If it spellbursted it became 15k. If it double spellbursted it must be 22.5k And i think ninja doc spammer is the best, take a look here xD Raton : Ouvel : 'Bout "better", it all depends on your favorite gameplay x) And yes it really is double sb, my normal dmgs were around 85k, sb 105k and double sb 125k without any buffs... huh? Spellburst is 1.5x ur normal damage. How 85k normal damage became 105k when spellbursted lol. It should be around 127.5k if ur normal damage is 85k. And it should be around 191.25k if ur spellbursted damage spellbursted again. Ahahahaha
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Post by Dragsbro on Mar 16, 2016 7:39:33 GMT
'Bout "better", it all depends on your favorite gameplay x) And yes it really is double sb, my normal dmgs were around 85k, sb 105k and double sb 125k without any buffs... huh? Spellburst is 1.5x ur normal damage. How 85k normal damage became 105k when spellbursted lol. It should be around 127.5k if ur normal damage is 85k. And it should be around 191.25k if ur spellbursted damage spellbursted again. Ahahahaha Wanna see proofs? Idk why but sb seems to add 20k to me >.< I can show u a normal es, sb es and double sb es if u want but be sure i would have said it made 190k if it really made >.< Also spell boost adds 20k too x.x I do 105k 125k 145k with it >.<
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Post by Dragsbro on Sept 30, 2016 6:32:57 GMT
OMFG caporal, @ewpeople, rayyas, Umaru-chan, CeruleanDo you guys ever recall double spellbursting a Domination? Because i'm not sure about it... Just tthought that if it isn't the case for any of you, then double spellburst may be caused by the double element of Earthshaker
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Post by Dragsbro on Sept 30, 2016 8:00:08 GMT
Ooooook SO
I told this to EwPeople and he just pointed out that "normal" sb is not as effective as an hw's one. Indeed that's what i didn't get with Faylyne when she said it should be 1.5x dmg, and i was gaining way less dmg. Ewpeople made a quick calculus and told that normal ES spellburst is 1.25x normal es dmg, and double ES spellburst is another 1.25x. So i went to check about other skills and found out domi was a 1.5x just as Hw's spellburst. So here we think that ES "double" spellburst is in fact "full" spellburst, when each element happens to spellburst ._.)/
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2016 8:08:34 GMT
Ooooook SO I told this to EwPeople and he just pointed out that "normal" sb is not as effective as an hw's one. Indeed that's what i didn't get with Faylyne when she said it should be 1.5x dmg, and i was gaining way less dmg. Ewpeople made a quick calculus and told that normal ES spellburst is 1.25x normal es dmg, and double ES spellburst is another 1.25x. So i went to check about other skills and found out domi was a 1.5x just as Hw's spellburst. So here we think that ES "double" spellburst is in fact "full" spellburst, when each element happens to spellburst ._.)/ To put it simply, first I didn't use calculus to compute the difference XD. Second, it's that a single spell burst of es means that one of its elements spell bursted. A double es spell burst means that both elements spell bursted, which I think is pretty dumb considering both are magic damage anyway @-@. Reminds me of enchy's Magic Blade in a way
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Post by Dragsbro on Sept 30, 2016 8:15:19 GMT
Ooooook SO I told this to EwPeople and he just pointed out that "normal" sb is not as effective as an hw's one. Indeed that's what i didn't get with Faylyne when she said it should be 1.5x dmg, and i was gaining way less dmg. Ewpeople made a quick calculus and told that normal ES spellburst is 1.25x normal es dmg, and double ES spellburst is another 1.25x. So i went to check about other skills and found out domi was a 1.5x just as Hw's spellburst. So here we think that ES "double" spellburst is in fact "full" spellburst, when each element happens to spellburst ._.)/ To put it simply, first I didn't use calculus to compute the difference XD. Second, it's that a single spell burst of es means that one of its elements spell bursted. A double es spell burst means that both elements spell bursted, which I think is pretty dumb considering both are magic damage anyway @-@. Reminds me of enchy's Magic Blade in a waySo you said it randomly? XD i mean you've calculated it, that wasn't said out of nowhere, was it? X.x And then yes, considering that the sb power has been divided by 2 for every magic element. So yep, 1.25x dmg for each ele make a "real" spellburst if both happens at the same time. If it was 1.5x boost for each ele, that would be like doing from 100k normal to 200k dmg e.e and 200 to 400...there's a logic of being fair to other classes, especially hws i think x) since we already ignore mdef...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2016 8:26:36 GMT
To put it simply, first I didn't use calculus to compute the difference XD. Second, it's that a single spell burst of es means that one of its elements spell bursted. A double es spell burst means that both elements spell bursted, which I think is pretty dumb considering both are magic damage anyway @-@. Reminds me of enchy's Magic Blade in a way So you said it randomly? XD i mean you've calculated it, that wasn't said out of nowhere, was it? X.x And then yes, considering that the sb power has been divided by 2 for every magic element. So yep, 1.25x dmg for each ele make a "real" spellburst if both happens at the same time. If it was 1.5x boost for each ele, that would be like doing from 100k normal to 200k dmg e.e and 200 to 400...there's a logic of being fair to other classes, especially hws i think x) since we already ignore mdef... Let's just say I used a lower-than-calculus form of math XD. Fairness huh? We're supposed to be a high DPS class but my enchy friend who had just a fraction of my equipment cost dealt more DPS than me T^T. Also my poor enchy's DPS is almost on par with mine (and he has no good xtals @-@). We deserve more love Asobimo XD (well sk is coming anyway. That's love too, right?)
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Post by Dragsbro on Sept 30, 2016 9:14:02 GMT
Let's just say I used a lower-than-calculus form of math XD. Fairness huh? We're supposed to be a high DPS class but my enchy friend who had just a fraction of my equipment cost dealt more DPS than me T^T. Also my poor enchy's DPS is almost on par with mine (and he has no good xtals @-@). We deserve more love Asobimo XD (well sk is coming anyway. That's love too, right?) We're not supposed that much to be a high high dps x.x ninja has their best advantage in terms of survivability qwq Although we indeed have a good dps compared to some other class...in early lvls >.> not every class can deal 20k around lv110...and that's without good epqs. Then we pretty much got nerfed until 220, which increases greatly the survivability but when you get to think about it, it also is a cast, and moreover only usabe after ES which don't up much the dps in the end ._. And i think that's why sk is here, to re-balance us with other classes doing hella tons of dmg qwq P.S. I wish the double spellburst was indeed 100%, dun get me wrong owo
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Post by Umaru-chan on Sept 30, 2016 11:39:17 GMT
Let's just say I used a lower-than-calculus form of math XD. Fairness huh? We're supposed to be a high DPS class but my enchy friend who had just a fraction of my equipment cost dealt more DPS than me T^T. Also my poor enchy's DPS is almost on par with mine (and he has no good xtals @-@). We deserve more love Asobimo XD (well sk is coming anyway. That's love too, right?) We're not supposed that much to be a high high dps x.x ninja has their best advantage in terms of survivability qwq Although we indeed have a good dps compared to some other class...in early lvls >.> not every class can deal 20k around lv110...and that's without good epqs. Then we pretty much got nerfed until 220, which increases greatly the survivability but when you get to think about it, it also is a cast, and moreover only usabe after ES which don't up much the dps in the end ._. And i think that's why sk is here, to re-balance us with other classes doing hella tons of dmg qwq P.S. I wish the double spellburst was indeed 100%, dun get me wrong owo No we still need more love XD but im 100% sure now that ES is dual element tho doube spb did not happen to me yet haha my derpie 183 magic nin can only do 75-96k ES
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Post by Dragsbro on Sept 30, 2016 11:46:12 GMT
We're not supposed that much to be a high high dps x.x ninja has their best advantage in terms of survivability qwq Although we indeed have a good dps compared to some other class...in early lvls >.> not every class can deal 20k around lv110...and that's without good epqs. Then we pretty much got nerfed until 220, which increases greatly the survivability but when you get to think about it, it also is a cast, and moreover only usabe after ES which don't up much the dps in the end ._. And i think that's why sk is here, to re-balance us with other classes doing hella tons of dmg qwq P.S. I wish the double spellburst was indeed 100%, dun get me wrong owo No we still need more love XD but im 100% sure now that ES is dual element tho doube spb did not happen to me yet haha my derpie 183 magic nin can only do 75-96k ES It will o3o or maybe they removed it, idk, been a long time i didn't test x.x And lol at lv180ish i was dealing 45k XD apo wasn't released tho -3- I wonder about stroz rod's dmg haha
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2016 11:54:34 GMT
We're not supposed that much to be a high high dps x.x ninja has their best advantage in terms of survivability qwq Although we indeed have a good dps compared to some other class...in early lvls >.> not every class can deal 20k around lv110...and that's without good epqs. Then we pretty much got nerfed until 220, which increases greatly the survivability but when you get to think about it, it also is a cast, and moreover only usabe after ES which don't up much the dps in the end ._. And i think that's why sk is here, to re-balance us with other classes doing hella tons of dmg qwq P.S. I wish the double spellburst was indeed 100%, dun get me wrong owo No we still need more love XD but im 100% sure now that ES is dual element tho doube spb did not happen to me yet haha my derpie 183 magic nin can only do 75-96k ES Well my magic ninja deals 72-75k es. Spell burst/boost I dun even remember. I'm sorry for having derpy damage T^T.
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Post by Umaru-chan on Sept 30, 2016 14:29:15 GMT
No we still need more love XD but im 100% sure now that ES is dual element tho doube spb did not happen to me yet haha my derpie 183 magic nin can only do 75-96k ES Well my magic ninja deals 72-75k es. Spell burst/boost I dun even remember. I'm sorry for having derpy damage T^T.Thats spellburst btw haha normally i do around 55-60k hahaha youre not derpy asobimo just need to love us XD i also dont bother with spellboost haha im not that rich to spam mp pots and buy mp cost gears i wish tho my ardour was slotted XD
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Post by Umaru-chan on Sept 30, 2016 14:36:02 GMT
No we still need more love XD but im 100% sure now that ES is dual element tho doube spb did not happen to me yet haha my derpie 183 magic nin can only do 75-96k ES It will o3o or maybe they removed it, idk, been a long time i didn't test x.x And lol at lv180ish i was dealing 45k XD apo wasn't released tho -3- I wonder about stroz rod's dmg haha Btw I have to apologize sensei haha Kagura♯(umaru's magic ninja) chose the struggler route im not able to compare damages yet but at 93 vit my matk is abit on par with emido moldus need strugg slot badly q.q
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Post by Dragsbro on Sept 30, 2016 15:54:12 GMT
It will o3o or maybe they removed it, idk, been a long time i didn't test x.x And lol at lv180ish i was dealing 45k XD apo wasn't released tho -3- I wonder about stroz rod's dmg haha Btw I have to apologize sensei haha Kagura♯(umaru's magic ninja) chose the struggler route im not able to compare damages yet but at 93 vit my matk is abit on par with emido moldus need strugg slot badly q.q Well i guess that's the best option for pure matk haha I need sk so badly q.q stalking it since a year XD even if i didn't bother much cuz i didn't think echo would be abolished T.T
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Post by Cerulean on Sept 30, 2016 16:00:17 GMT
OMFG caporal, @ewpeople, rayyas, Umaru-chan, CeruleanDo you guys ever recall double spellbursting a Domination? Because i'm not sure about it... Just tthought that if it isn't the case for any of you, then double spellburst may be caused by the double element of Earthshaker I only ever recall doing it with ES and the damage was the same for normal and double on yardes being 150k No spellburst and 200k being spellburst/double
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