Yazmat
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Pally Lv351 | Alchy Lv318
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Post by Yazmat on Feb 4, 2016 9:48:23 GMT
I need hyde attack, but I don't think I'll spend for a not guaranteed spell. I'd rather jump between isles all day and collect points worth a week of try. it's name is Hide Attack in en :3
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Tamagu
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Post by Tamagu on Feb 4, 2016 13:25:44 GMT
I've bought a couple (actually maybe a lot) of pet eggs after I heard Roxzen got DB. but as usual iruna gives me every skill but the one I want............. *goes into a corner and cries over the fact I fed boss pets to normal pets and they got bad skills*
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Post by laundrying bear on Jul 27, 2016 0:48:49 GMT
can my hatched pet eggs be used again? like synthesize and used as egg offering to skill?
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Yazmat
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Pally Lv351 | Alchy Lv318
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Post by Yazmat on Jul 27, 2016 9:11:42 GMT
can my hatched pet eggs be used again? like synthesize and used as egg offering to skill? pet synthesize will give you a pet not an egg.. so no you can't use them for learning skills one they are hatched
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Post by airboyx1 on Aug 4, 2016 6:04:30 GMT
Wait, let me get this straight... I got a pet Azimov (looks like miniature Gundam >. <).
1.) A pet can only have 1 skill, no?
2.) Since the eggs bought from shop allows my pet to learn a random skill, there is no specific reason to consider one egg from another right (meaning it don't matter what egg since the skill will be random)
3.) So, if my pet learned a skill which I may not be too keen on having, I must unlearn the skill and use another egg until I get a skill that I like (assuming a pet cam only have 1 skill)
4.)Is there a point on buying a pet house if I plan to just buy egg? Or is a pet house worth getting anyway?
-This is my first time messing with a pet in Iruna. Does anyone have any opinions on the pet, 'Azimov'? Not sure if it's worth keeping or if I should just try getting a rare god pet.
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Post by lacs on Aug 4, 2016 7:06:28 GMT
Wait, let me get this straight... I got a pet Azimov (looks like miniature Gundam >. <). 1.) A pet can only have 1 skill, no? 2.) Since the eggs bought from shop allows my pet to learn a random skill, there is no specific reason to consider one egg from another right (meaning it don't matter what egg since the skill will be random) 3.) So, if my pet learned a skill which I may not be too keen on having, I must unlearn the skill and use another egg until I get a skill that I like (assuming a pet cam only have 1 skill) 4.)Is there a point on buying a pet house if I plan to just buy egg? Or is a pet house worth getting anyway? -This is my first time messing with a pet in Iruna. Does anyone have any opinions on the pet, 'Azimov'? Not sure if it's worth keeping or if I should just try getting a rare god pet. 1- yup 2- couldn't understand the question, any boss/god egg can make any pet learn any casteable or passive skill (stat skills excluded) 3- you can, i suggest you only do that with repeated eggs 4- pet houses are a great thing to consider buying, they increase the exp gained of any pet inside the house by 50% which is a lot (i do this, put someone inside house, feed it, exchange the pet for another one outside the house, feed that one too, repeat until all of em are feed)
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Post by Almas on Aug 4, 2016 9:39:21 GMT
2.) Since the eggs bought from shop allows my pet to learn a random skill, there is no specific reason to consider one egg from another right (meaning it don't matter what egg since the skill will be random) 3.) So, if my pet learned a skill which I may not be too keen on having, I must unlearn the skill and use another egg until I get a skill that I like (assuming a pet cam only have 1 skill)[l 2. God pet gains higher stat cap so there's that to consider too. VIT an important factor especially if you wanna solo with pet—they revive faster and can take couple of hits (protect mode). As what I've seen so far, only non-boss/god pet gains Dual Blow, so there's that to consider. 3. If it's a good skill, I'd keep it and get another pet. You never know when you want/need certain skill to be honest. Considering how bad the RNG can be at times. Anyway, my advice is that if you wanna only get 1 pet I don't suggest you go to egg feeding. Instead of feeding eggs, I would just train pets to 50 and try get skills. Skills, while helpful, isn't really that crucial to rush getting in my opinion. Except maybe for Dual Blow. My friend got all good skills she needed via normal feeding and resetting skills. It's the same thing anyway—not guaranteed.
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Post by airboyx1 on Aug 5, 2016 2:03:47 GMT
First of all, thank you to both of ya for the great info reaponse~.
1.) Could my pets bought from giftshop via coins make a break (off my island) if I neglect them (i.e. not feeding them everyday etc.)? Or do only pets who were strays do this? So the pet house is not necessarily needed, other than for the purpose of added exp. It's not like I need to house my pets in a pet house or pet hotel in order to keep then from running off my island (assuming that I have multiple pets roaming freely in my island)
3.) Azimov (one of my pet) is supposedly a boss pet. I taught it double atk by feeding him the Bossheieit pet egg I guess I lucked out because the skill you get is supposedly random draw. But I think double atk is more preferred with pets that melee? My Azimov seems to be a Int. based pet that likes magic. (response to previous responders comment)
4.) This might seem bit obvious but I want to clarify this if possible: The pets come with pre-existing starter ability traits. Is it wise to follow their existing ability traits? (For example, the Azimov came with point in Int. so naturally I kept training him with muse. But if I started to train him I strength (which has negative.red.bonus point), would that be pointless? So I should just follow the pets natural ability trait stregnth right? I been following their strengths in their presence existing abilities. I was just curious. I know it's rather pointless to train a pet that favors strength and train it Int. (Basically, I can't cap all the pets ability trait stats?) [
6.) Last question: Would my pet get the extra points of I were to put that pet in the house and feed it and put them back out right away? Or do they need to be kept inside the house over night to fully rake in the exp. bonus? I read that you can't train the pet while it's I it's house.
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Post by Almas on Aug 5, 2016 2:50:12 GMT
airboyx1 , 1. Once a pet is tamed, it stays there even if you quit iruna. 3. Your pet doesn't utilize the skills they learn. The skills they learned are applied to you if they are passive. Active skills are under your 'Extra SKill' for you to use. Extra skill will not show skills of pet inside hotel. 4. As for my personal opinion, there's no need to follow their highest attribute. I always train my pet to gain more vit. After they cap, I usually feed them food that lowers other stats while raising vit. Vit so that I can have fast reviver--the higher the vit, the higher pet's respawn time--whenever I solo. And when I put them in protect mode they do not die easily. There are others though who try to raise their pet to gain high int but meh. Still crappy anyway. LOL.
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Post by lacs on Aug 5, 2016 16:42:38 GMT
airboyx1 , 4. As for my personal opinion, there's no need to follow their highest attribute. I always train my pet to gain more vit. After they cap, I usually feed them food that lowers other stats while raising vit. Vit so that I can have fast reviver--the higher the vit, the higher pet's respawn time--whenever I solo. And when I put them in protect mode they do not die easily. There are others though who try to raise their pet to gain high int but meh. Still crappy anyway. LOL. but IF you decide to follow their their stats to the highest, you get pets that are specialists on something, my santa piton has 256 int and dex, is the fastest healing pet on all iruna, and my vasaria is going to follow a similar training, int dex vit maxed, she'll be a powerful healing tank, she can absorb ridiculously high amounts of damage (user defense and mdef is added to the pet) with the capacity to heal herself, some other pets have high atk and agi, they might be low leveled, but they are really good supporting us, at least better than leechers...
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Post by Almas on Aug 5, 2016 18:12:36 GMT
lacs, I do not understand what you mean by specialist cause as I see it 60 points of INT gave my pet +300 more heal which is still crap. I would never, for the life of me, rely on my pet's heal skill when push comes to shove. But that's me. And 100 dex difference only gave my pet a 5 seconds advantage when it comes to healing. It's 20 seconds verus 15 seconds. Times given are not exact but they're around there. I could make a video for proof but it's pointless. Made tests on 2 pets, they do not have 256 stats but yeah, can easily make judgment from there. Plus I believe, without vit, your specialists won't live long enough to see the end of battle. But with high vit, they might be able to come back before you kill boss. And I didn't know user's defense and mdef is applied but I noticed my pets survive more on ninja which has basically 0 defenses at all compared to my bishop which has high mdef and decent defense. I believe it's ridiculous to say a Piton with 256 INT and DEX is the fastest healing pet on all Iruna. You never know how people train their pets, because as I've said, you can lower some of their stats to gain stats you want. Takes time but eventually a god pet will be more of a specialist. xD Or were you only talking about pets you have? If that is the case, then I'll take your word for it. The difference I've noticed is that their stat affinity grows higher compared to other stats. Both my Kaiser and Gankaku are 'Bathe Trained' from the start and both ate FPF, but there is a huge gap in their stats. That's not a problem when they eventually get 100 as I'll have to change their diet and just get more VIT and ignore everything else.
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Post by lacs on Aug 5, 2016 19:52:10 GMT
Well of course 60 int makes low difference, but capping both int and dex increases the spamming of that heal, my santa piton heals 2k hp every 6.5 seconds, yes, of course i can't rely on him to heal me like a bishop, but it does help
They survive with your ninja of course, they don't only share defense, but evasion too
And yes i meant about my pets, i just have my piton and will make my vasaria cap the max of int vit dex she can, I've used my pets on defensive mode (increases defense of user and pet, pet absorbs 50% of any damage, if the pet has high evasion, the attacks will miss as well) on some of my nub new alts, i soloed with my bishop everything until irai
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Post by Almas on Aug 5, 2016 20:31:44 GMT
Well of course 60 int makes low difference, but capping both int and dex increases the spamming of that heal, my santa piton heals 2k hp every 6.5 seconds, yes, of course i can't rely on him to heal me like a bishop, but it does help They survive with your ninja of course, they don't only share defense, but evasion too And yes i meant about my pets, i just have my piton and will make my vasaria cap the max of int vit dex she can, I've used my pets on defensive mode (increases defense of user and pet, pet absorbs 50% of any damage, if the pet has high evasion, the attacks will miss as well) on some of my nub new alts, i soloed with my bishop everything until irai That's surprising cause at 151 dex there's 15ish+ delay in between heals. That's a lot. Oh well, to each his own. If I want heals, I'd take pots and utilize phrase system and get heal gears. Or maybe they rarely die cause they're always on relax mode when I'm on ninja. Lol. They get hit and they survive. I know about the damage reduction when they're in protect mode but this is the first time I'm hearing of them adding defense to user, and hits getting evaded in protect mode. As per my understanding of this pets do not evade damage they'll receive from protect mode. Curious, where you got this info? This is useful if indeed true and proven. Haven't seen it being said in up wiki either. http://iruna-online.wikiwiki.jp/?%A5%DA%A5%C3%A5%C8%A4%CE%A5%B9%A5%C6%A1%BC%A5%BF%A5%B9 And if that's the case there's more reason to focus on VIT and INT then. And I've soloed some ep4 bosses with my bishop and pet.
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Post by lacs on Aug 7, 2016 11:07:03 GMT
The info i got by pure partying my pets, you know that paladin have no evasion, they just keep receiving hits over and over, when I tried to use my pet mani (has around 200 agi) on defense mode, i was surprised that i was avoiding a big amount of hits, you can try this with any high agility pet and a low agi job on defense mode, the defense increase i noticed on my enchanter, somehow i tried to ose my vasaria in high ents (you know that they sometimes hit with aoe) so, with pets on same order (attack order) on my pally they get 1 damage from that aoe, but on my enchanter they get 400-1k depending on the hit, when on defense mode, on my pally i still get 1 hit (still got hit because was a low agi pet) but on my enchanter, received 200-500 ish damage on each, so my conclusion was that pets defense depends on the user's and pet's defense, so is evasion, you can see the link between pet and user while looking at its hp, the max hp depends on the pets vit and like 5% of the base hp of the character (don't remember if it was 5 or 10%) This is all by years of experience (like, 1 year x3 ) these are some things that aren't yet on guides, also:
on relax mode the self healing capacity of pets increase a lot, so is the reviving times
On attack mode, the healing speed is normal, they also attack and heal at a normal rate, reviving times are normal too
On defense mode, they absorb 50% of the user's damage, healing casting speed and attack decrease, self healing speed is normal, they can also evade hits (the distance between user and pet also reduces)
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Post by Almas on Aug 7, 2016 11:41:38 GMT
lacsThat's a poor basis IMHO, no offense meant. I have pet with fairly quite high agility and lol hit avoidance doesn't really change. BUT sometimes I happen to avoid multiple hits at a time at high hitting bosses. But that also happens without pet. Evasion is so random. Even with 1.5K evasion, you sometimes get hit a lot. Heck, my sniper without decent gear sometimes evades more hits than my fully equipped ninja. Does that mean I switch their gears cause that happens? Evasion is one big random factor. My experiences were based on partying with my pet as a 300+ Samurai, 300+ Ninja, 300+ Bishop and 200 Sniper—years of experience as well. Of course, they received halved damage. That is given. And no, as per experience, pet modes doesn't change revive times of pet assuming you meant how long they live again after death. I'll try make video next time. :'v
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