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Post by Owe on Jan 1, 2016 15:51:36 GMT
Just wondering has anyone used either of these. Seems like it could be helpful, if you for instance ran with 4 green lines, 4 yellow lines and put 100 into GR because you'd gain damage as well as evasion or the same thing with 4 red 4 yellow just more hp. Of course this means you have less stats to work with, but what do you think?
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Post by quitted on Jan 1, 2016 17:37:42 GMT
GR raise only evasion, not raising any AGI. since no AGI boost, i dont think any type of weapon can gain damage from GR stat. and red line raise DEF and HP auto recovery too , not just MaxHP. HP auto recovery is the HP regen amount that you get from bless buff and also when you not moving/attacking. your HP regen from lv180 regenerate skill will be boosted too because of higher MaxHP. of course yellow+green is not worthless for gladiator. green lines boost evasion/absolute evasion(% chance able to avoid only physical attack for sure)/ magic evasion (% chance able to avoid only magic attack for sure). it makes you able to avoid a bit of attacks no matter how high accuracy that mob/boss have. . by the way 4 red+4 yellow is not best result if you want damage gain. it should be 6yellow+2green/all line are yellow except line 5 and 6 are red like picture bellow. you also can try 6yellow+2green, just swap between red and green AI cryta position
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Eaysley
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Post by Eaysley on Jan 3, 2016 0:18:58 GMT
I'd prefer 6 yellows than just 4. But I guess 4 yellow - 4 green works too.
Are you going for an Agi build? Evasion has a REALLY low chance vs magic attacks but it works really well vs meelee attacks. But Agi boosts your tempest damage at a certain rate.
I personally use 6 yellow - 2 red. I really don't want evasion. IMO'd prefer cross counter damage over evasion but whatever works for you!
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Post by quitted on Jan 3, 2016 9:09:10 GMT
I'd prefer 6 yellows than just 4. But I guess 4 yellow - 4 green works too. Are you going for an Agi build? Evasion has a REALLY low chance vs magic attacks but it works really well vs meelee attacks. But Agi boosts your tempest damage at a certain rate. I personally use 6 yellow - 2 red. I really don't want evasion. IMO'd prefer cross counter damage over evasion but whatever works for you! in my opinion, AGI good to raise only if you already have lv220 sword tempest skill because that boost our evasion to almost 200% and boosts your tempest damage like Easyley said. but of course high MaxHP/VIT is important too for survival, dont just rely on evasion. Just to remind to remind you Bastan one more time, special stat Gr doesnt boost any damage because it only boost evasion. better just raise AGI instead. my stat is 256STR 256VIT 256DEX 256CRT and the rest goes to AGI (about 90 AGI by time i wrote this). my lv is 299, my MaxHP is around 40k and my evasion is reached 900. 900 is high enough. believe me better just raise AGI instead of special stat if you want evasion.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2016 13:03:27 GMT
▼New System 5: "Special Stats" ■Question What are "Special Stats"? ◆Answer - Special Stats - You can allocate stat points into special stats after the release of "Apostolia". Please refer to the following for the effects of Special Stats. EXP: Increases EXP gain. IgR: Increases the duration recovery speed of Ignition. IgT: Increases the duration of Ignition. RD: Boosts the effects of Red, Yellow and Purple lines between Al Crystas. GR: Boosts the effects of Green, Aqua and Yellow lines between Al Crystas. BL: Boosts the effects of Blue, Purple and Aqua lines between Al Crystas. You can allocate up to 100 stat points into each Special Stat SourceIf the table above which Rantau demonstrates is exactly the same of your al crysta setup definitely you wont gain any evasion from it as there are no connecting green lines which is for "evasion" thus, you will gain HP,def, atk/melee only by raising GR OR RD on special stats.
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Post by quitted on Jan 3, 2016 15:02:50 GMT
▼New System 5: "Special Stats" ■Question What are "Special Stats"? ◆Answer - Special Stats - You can allocate stat points into special stats after the release of "Apostolia". Please refer to the following for the effects of Special Stats. EXP: Increases EXP gain. IgR: Increases the duration recovery speed of Ignition. IgT: Increases the duration of Ignition. RD: Boosts the effects of Red, Yellow and Purple lines between Al Crystas. GR: Boosts the effects of Green, Aqua and Yellow lines between Al Crystas. BL: Boosts the effects of Blue, Purple and Aqua lines between Al Crystas. You can allocate up to 100 stat points into each Special Stat SourceIf the table above which Rantau demonstrates is exactly the same of your al crysta setup definitely you wont gain any evasion from it as there are no connecting green lines which is for "evasion" thus, you will gain HP,def, atk/melee only by raising GR OR RD on special stats. yup, you want evasion+damage boost, you should make grid like in picture below. one more thing i want to say is, according to my guildmate said you can gain damage boost from special stat but only if you raise RD together with GR stat and have at least 1 yellow line.
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Post by UIRepth on Jan 3, 2016 17:50:29 GMT
▼New System 5: "Special Stats" ■Question What are "Special Stats"? ◆Answer - Special Stats - You can allocate stat points into special stats after the release of "Apostolia". Please refer to the following for the effects of Special Stats. EXP: Increases EXP gain. IgR: Increases the duration recovery speed of Ignition. IgT: Increases the duration of Ignition. RD: Boosts the effects of Red, Yellow and Purple lines between Al Crystas. GR: Boosts the effects of Green, Aqua and Yellow lines between Al Crystas. BL: Boosts the effects of Blue, Purple and Aqua lines between Al Crystas. You can allocate up to 100 stat points into each Special Stat SourceIf the table above which Rantau demonstrates is exactly the same of your al crysta setup definitely you wont gain any evasion from it as there are no connecting green lines which is for "evasion" thus, you will gain HP,def, atk/melee only by raising GR OR RD on special stats. yup, you want evasion+damage boost, you should make grid like in picture below. one more thing i want to say is, according to my guildmate said you can gain damage boost from special stat but only if you raise RD together with GR stat and have at least 1 yellow line. u still get atk boost if u raise any gr or rd ,raise both together double the effect
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2016 19:23:42 GMT
RD: Boosts the effects of Red, Yellow and Purple lines between Al Crystas.
GR: Boosts the effects of Green, Aqua and Yellow lines between Al Crystas.
You can add either of these 2 it will still raise your atk (I dont know by how much) putting 100 on both GR, RD improves further atk boost.
Put on GR = Melee Evasion/Absolute Evasion/etc. ATK/Melee/Melee pierce
Put on RD = Def/HP ATK/Melee/Melee pierce
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Post by quitted on Jan 3, 2016 20:32:41 GMT
RD: Boosts the effects of Red, Yellow and Purple lines between Al Crystas. GR: Boosts the effects of Green, Aqua and Yellow lines between Al Crystas. You can add either of these 2 it will still raise your atk (I dont know by how much) putting 100 on both GR, RD improves further atk boost. Put on GR = Melee Evasion/Absolute Evasion/etc. ATK/Melee/Melee pierce Put on RD = Def/HP ATK/Melee/Melee pierce im myself not sure about this actually, because i never try myself raise any RD GR or BL. this only what my guildmate said to mewhen i have a conversation with my guildmate. it was when i said to him i might consider add special stat to raise autoskill rate if lv260 bloodthist autoskill affected by autoskill stat. he said to me i actually must raise both RD and BL equally if want autoskill rate boost from purple line, and same thing thing to ATK boost from yellow line, i need to raise both RD and GR equally. i suggest you guys read other thread to confirm about this. even if GR alone can boost damage, i think its wiser to to raise AGI first until 256 AGI because it boost sword tempest damage dratically. after your AGI is 256, you can start taising GR if you want.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2016 3:59:44 GMT
Well despite of this, I still consider raising AGI because I am tempest type and I switch on claw occassionally.
As for my post above I didn't test them myself as I have multiple color lines, its only base on my understanding coming from Iruna site itself.
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Post by Owe on Jan 4, 2016 4:34:20 GMT
Ok I was just spit-balling an idea around, my idea was that if you have 600+ Eva your survivablity would be higher than if you used 100 points towards Vit. As for the damage drop off from using only 4 lines of yellow instead of 6, you lose 30 ATK and 31 physical power at 0 GR according to this: irunaonline.boards.net/thread/7089/al-christa?page=1 I figured that with 100 GR and 4 of both yellow and green, you would get more ATK than normal from the lines as well as Eva, I've never tried this so I can't say for sure but that was my idea.
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