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Post by lenka on Dec 9, 2015 18:52:08 GMT
Anyone have any advice on which one is better? I want to be able to solo decently and also be wanted in parties. I would appreciate any pointers on these two classes. Thank you.
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Post by мιкαღ on Dec 10, 2015 2:01:47 GMT
It all depends on preference... I'm not very experienced in Beask Knight but we do have a high lvl (235ish) in my Guild and hers is amazing! She has the DPS of a Gladiator but the HP of a Paladin! Now her equips are expensive and she needed ExeIII and I think it's spelled Barabosita..? to spam Tyrant Edge... Pally is relatively easy to gear but slow to level in my experience as one (lvl 189) It's possible to solo bosses but we bleed pots so prepare to either farm Special Revita Ale forever or you can get a bunch of Altadora Xtals to make your pots go further! Also our AoE (Guardian) actually eats hp to use it. Not much but that 1k per swing matters after a while >_> But in my opinion one isn't wanted more than the other... Beast Knight can't heal fallen party members if everything goes south but Pally can't double as a DPS while taking a punch... There are other pit falls in both classes and depending on your build/gear for either the other class could seem better...
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Post by bravebor on Dec 10, 2015 2:13:31 GMT
Depends what you want to do really... In terms of tanking and soloing I think pal is great as I've soloed all my mq so far(im about 3 or 4 mqs behind atm but just haven't been on much and have been focused on prod when I have been) and with the right pots and equip can tank pretty much anything friends need me to. I can't really say much on BK myself but I'm sure if asteg wants to put his 2 cents worth in he can give you the run down on pros and cons of BK
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Post by asteg on Dec 10, 2015 2:59:31 GMT
Bk: your (as mentioned) basically a gladi with alot of hp gears dont have to be expensive but if u want high dmg... If you build it like a pally it should be pretty cheap with decent dmg, if u go this build tho i recommended str/dex(but at least 100 vit first..) With max vit /dex build i soloed all selebain..and draf bosses, had to stop and get help on gerust BUT! As with all my chars they have the op beyond all imagination equips from anniversary event, i had tantacion for delay... I think gear was mercruis/tentacion/ideasol/orichal ring(like argent ring but more mp+ and no sd-) mp problems are a big deal so if you want a good set i suggest: Wound transer/ama no habakiri/izuminokami (any work) with hp+20% for hp and wizalon or schlingel for atk(i use wiza cuz ima poor mofo ) Litch/tentacion(if u have one) exe 2 or 3, or if thats to much (some ppl op litch) plate armour You need (more like want) at least 1 sec sd, so for add i suggest barb/barb up,or even the lovable wolf ears if u have a extra For spc you want argent ring. Get a myrica too for if u pt with mp healers (farming/grinding and such) Also a HUGEEE warning, you get a passive skill called doggy... Wait...no... Diel style (i mean...they have dog ears...) Wich makes ur aspd go up by vit, with max vit you cant cleanly spam skills without atking..meaning yourskill "spam" looks like *skill...skill..normal atk...skill...skill...normal atk..* So a way around that is to use bows, if you go dex/str(100 vit first) you can use bows for decent dmg, i used failnaught II ( ) but illu bow up would work perfect, as would symbiosis bow..but if u have failnaught II the delay (both item and skill) makes life easier on you in the long run. Congrants on not contrating ocular aids from all that sorry for the choppy explanation too, lmk if u has questions
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Dec 10, 2015 4:17:21 GMT
Anyone have any advice on which one is better? I want to be able to solo decently and also be wanted in parties. I would appreciate any pointers on these two classes. Thank you. I've enjoyed Paladin for being able to solo farm/grind/mq. The key to them is to get them to Lv160 for Guardian and have enough resources to feed them with pots if you plan to solo. They are wanted in parties because they can gather mobs via guardian, which is good for leveling in parties and they tank anything with relatively cheap gears (just HP20 xtals, and maybe a Douin). Next key is to get to Lv260 for Knigth's Oath. It takes good amount of gear and level but when you get it you'd practically 1hit bosses that have around 1M HP. Hopefully, you would have gathered enough spina on your guardian days to buy your gears by then. By this time, you will be grinding bosses at around 2kills per minute solo, which is probably as fast as doing it with a party. But as others has suggested, it all boils down to the gameplay you want and whichever class sparks your interest. You might find spamming guardian button per second, day-in-day-out for months as unappealing. The button spamming only stops when you get to Lv260.
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Post by UIRepth on Dec 10, 2015 5:24:00 GMT
Currently working on my knight to be str crt vit pally to abuse my hyde atk. bk has better damage cuz their atk ignore def and elemental debuff but at cost of % max hp,pt range aoe atk and cant crit with hyde atk while pally better at tanking, average dmg,part of atk ignore def,cost % current hp,AOE atk,counter parry(extra dmg) and work with hyde atk. TBH if solo i pick pally since u could spam skill w.o luring and no need to use -2sd gear to spam skill.
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Post by Sideward [Quit Iruna] on Dec 10, 2015 10:49:59 GMT
Bk: your (as mentioned) basically a gladi with alot of hp gears dont have to be expensive but if u want high dmg... If you build it like a pally it should be pretty cheap with decent dmg, if u go this build tho i recommended str/dex(but at least 100 vit first..) With max vit /dex build i soloed all selebain..and draf bosses, had to stop and get help on gerust BUT! As with all my chars they have the op beyond all imagination equips from anniversary event, i had tantacion for delay... I think gear was mercruis/tentacion/ideasol/orichal ring(like argent ring but more mp+ and no sd-) mp problems are a big deal so if you want a good set i suggest: Wound transer/ama no habakiri/izuminokami (any work) with hp+20% for hp and wizalon or schlingel for atk(i use wiza cuz ima poor mofo ) Litch/tentacion(if u have one) exe 2 or 3, or if thats to much (some ppl op litch) plate armour You need (more like want) at least 1 sec sd, so for add i suggest barb/barb up,or even the lovable wolf ears if u have a extra For spc you want argent ring. Get a myrica too for if u pt with mp healers (farming/grinding and such) Also a HUGEEE warning, you get a passive skill called doggy... Wait...no... Diel style (i mean...they have dog ears...) Wich makes ur aspd go up by vit, with max vit you cant cleanly spam skills without atking..meaning yourskill "spam" looks like *skill...skill..normal atk...skill...skill...normal atk..* So a way around that is to use bows, if you go dex/str(100 vit first) you can use bows for decent dmg, i used failnaught II ( ) but illu bow up would work perfect, as would symbiosis bow..but if u have failnaught II the delay (both item and skill) makes life easier on you in the long run. Congrants on not contrating ocular aids from all that sorry for the choppy explanation too, lmk if u has questions Oh oh whats a Symbiosis bow? And how many pots did you use to solo all mq bosses? :3
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Post by мιкαღ on Dec 10, 2015 14:15:01 GMT
Idk about other Pallys but when I solo bosses (mind you at 189 the bosses are well in the 200's that I'm killing) I farm about 2 stacks of Sp Revita Ale and I can get through 3-5 bosses depending on attacks before getting too low on HP Pots and not wanting to chance the next boss. Now farming the Ale isn't fun so bosses live longer on her that on my Ninja but that's only because I'm lazy farming and not many people are selling them now TnT Though to be fair my Pally gear is MUCH cheaper than the Beast Knight I'm gearing so it has to have a downfall somewhere lol Cheaper Gear for more Pot consumption... I'm currently using Licht/Present Bell (both HP+20%) Myrica Wristlet NS and for weapon I tend to favor Wound Transfer (working on the upgrade but JBF = x.x) but also have KatzbalgerII and Ama no Habikiri both with HP +20%. I have an upped Hoplon shield with HP+20% in it too for when I get the Sheild Skill because I'm more focused on gearing my BK and Hoplon will do. Pally are very forgiving with gear. Shoot to farm one of the best armors is Chainmail Upped! No other warrior class I know of can still use beginning armor!
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Post by asteg on Dec 10, 2015 17:38:57 GMT
Oh lets be clear aswell o.o at 180+ you do the gladi like dmg, anything under expect like 7-10k dmg depending on gear...
But if you use the 180 skill(which is mp heavy x.x) it costs 14%(im told) of hp and 94 mp
I soloed everything after gerust... I dont say solo as in "psh soloed supah easy B) " i say solo as in " DAYYYYYMMMM THAT WAS CLOSE" biggest problems are niapa-morebeezleshiz but (oddly enough) xeltysis(not imsetti...)and thoreass-raton was easy as buying a pie, ... Raton was actually a joke :3 just bring a masamune ns for 3m and auto atk
And as for pots i used... Onigiri o.o
And symbiosis bow is spelled wrong, but its the bow from tilla/pranzia, it has atk+15% and @ is high o.o it'll probably be super cheap after koda 3 releases so wait till then to buy one, i got one for 11m 3 months ago tho
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Post by mdb2011 on Dec 11, 2015 3:13:17 GMT
I soloed all the way to darjarte on my bk vit dex str build I was using Ira dorry izu oritus ideal sol/vida n mrycia s but yes as they say mp on bk is hell with tyrant edge it also eats df out of hp great thing tho it ignores mobs defense currently at 219 hitting 41-43 k on yarde warcry buff only
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Post by lenka on Dec 11, 2015 15:16:04 GMT
Out of the Paladin or Beast knight which one cost more potion and equipment wise?
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asteg
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Post by asteg on Dec 11, 2015 16:17:40 GMT
Paladin, i rely mostly on replica gauntlet and heal my normal set is
Ama no habakiri /currone
Litch s/botainga
Replica gauntlet currone
Myrica wristlet or fortitude ring
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Post by UIRepth on Dec 11, 2015 16:26:40 GMT
Out of the Paladin or Beast knight which one cost more potion and equipment wise? BK cost more potion if your TE have 1sd..hp/mp consumption like 2.8%max hp+90~mp/sec... Really really hard to manage hp n mp Lol(onigiri 10%hp/5sec salt 300mp/5sec w.o item delay).
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asteg
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Post by asteg on Dec 12, 2015 7:08:00 GMT
To long vid of gear/dmg o.o no sound cuz ima newb :3
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Post by mdb2011 on Dec 22, 2015 0:57:00 GMT
yea as a bk i warn u solo leveling is gone be ur downfall the mp and hp consumption if skills is ridicolous like literally is a handicap which makes me even angrier glads got bloodthirst skill from stats obviously shoudlve been for bk everything bout that skill spells bk but its asombimo and they genius and idiots im the same mind
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