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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Jan 15, 2016 1:10:51 GMT
BTW is your DMG pure? No strong kid, nothing fancy? Some vids are very confusing because they add 3rd party buffs and pots. I'm trying to assess if it indeed can be done this early or if we need to grow more levels / gears like the japs. If you mean pure as in only pally buffs, then no i used dark drink and red candy bag. However, the video i guess answers the question can it be done. Obviously if we was to use mins, books and other items/buffs then it would be much much easier. Im sure if i had a 2s d paler, and red/green lines on ai at max then yes it would be possible with just war cry. So i would say yes it could be done 'Pure' at this stage of the game I don't think I can 1hit almas at this stage. My current pure DMG is 1.1m DMG. If I upgrade my dpaler to 2s and my thimble s to aas plus grow a few levels I still doubt that would provide extra 500k DMG which is a lot. I feel like a key item is still needed to make the cut.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2016 3:39:07 GMT
LeviDane is it good to add elemental xtals for Elemental weapons in terms of oath or Atk+xx% are much better? I use darjarte in my weapons which is atk+11%. Elemental xtals add 10%. I know it's only 1% but every little helps in my opinion. Before someone mentions the - magic resistance, i don't notice this and it's never been a problem to me. I don't think the difference is that noticable though. Two of my bows I use elemental xtals. They are the much cheaper alternative I got it, thanks for your reply long way for me but its good to ask people in advance to have a scope how it works
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Jan 15, 2016 6:12:05 GMT
LeviDane is it good to add elemental xtals for Elemental weapons in terms of oath or Atk+xx% are much better? I use darjarte in my weapons which is atk+11%. Elemental xtals add 10%. I know it's only 1% but every little helps in my opinion. Before someone mentions the - magic resistance, i don't notice this and it's never been a problem to me. I don't think the difference is that noticable though. Two of my bows I use elemental xtals. They are the much cheaper alternative The thimble I bought came with a wol. After dying from Almas a number of times I replaced it with ganei and had a more stable grind (myrica and sword is still more stable though) During guardian days, I never really paid any attention to resistances because I was full HP most of the time. With oath I became more particular with crit damages and resistances. For example, ushilths crit can send you home if you don't pay attention whereas it should never be able to kill you and you don't have to have full HP to avoid it (saves me onigiris). If you party a lot then you can afford to wear more minus resistance of course. But for solo grind it becomes a case to case basis. I know crits can be rare but why die if you can avoid it. Especially if coming back involves long walk. XD
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Post by UIRepth on Jan 15, 2016 7:21:39 GMT
LeviDane is it good to add elemental xtals for Elemental weapons in terms of oath or Atk+xx% are much better? elemental xtal better when u have high enuogh %atk since it calculate after atk multiplier(total dmg x (1+(1 x element correction)).
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Post by LeviDane on Jan 15, 2016 8:42:01 GMT
I use darjarte in my weapons which is atk+11%. Elemental xtals add 10%. I know it's only 1% but every little helps in my opinion. Before someone mentions the - magic resistance, i don't notice this and it's never been a problem to me. I don't think the difference is that noticable though. Two of my bows I use elemental xtals. They are the much cheaper alternative The thimble I bought came with a wol. After dying from Almas a number of times I replaced it with ganei and had a more stable grind (myrica and sword is still more stable though) During guardian days, I never really paid any attention to resistances because I was full HP most of the time. With oath I became more particular with crit damages and resistances. For example, ushilths crit can send you home if you don't pay attention whereas it should never be able to kill you and you don't have to have full HP to avoid it (saves me onigiris). If you party a lot then you can afford to wear more minus resistance of course. But for solo grind it becomes a case to case basis. I know crits can be rare but why die if you can avoid it. Especially if coming back involves long walk. XD I think for oath because your hp is low anyway, a move that is going to kill you will do so regardless of the minus magic resistance. However, I never farm solo. Even when i'm by myself I use my bish to cast ressu on me exactly for the reason you mention above. That odd critical that kills you. That is annoying lol I can understand if you do truly play solo why you would be more concerned with the minus defenses.
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Yazmat
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Post by Yazmat on Jan 15, 2016 10:00:27 GMT
A new video I thought people would be interested in. Finally 1 shot almas! good timing for the poison mushroom
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Jan 15, 2016 11:47:13 GMT
The thimble I bought came with a wol. After dying from Almas a number of times I replaced it with ganei and had a more stable grind (myrica and sword is still more stable though) During guardian days, I never really paid any attention to resistances because I was full HP most of the time. With oath I became more particular with crit damages and resistances. For example, ushilths crit can send you home if you don't pay attention whereas it should never be able to kill you and you don't have to have full HP to avoid it (saves me onigiris). If you party a lot then you can afford to wear more minus resistance of course. But for solo grind it becomes a case to case basis. I know crits can be rare but why die if you can avoid it. Especially if coming back involves long walk. XD I think for oath because your hp is low anyway, a move that is going to kill you will do so regardless of the minus magic resistance. However, I never farm solo. Even when i'm by myself I use my bish to cast ressu on me exactly for the reason you mention above. That odd critical that kills you. That is annoying lol I can understand if you do truly play solo why you would be more concerned with the minus defenses. Well yeah crits that can kill you will still kill you but the real problem is wheb what isn't supposed to kill you, does kill you. Heinrich does a terrific job in terms of survivability. I seriously think it is OP once you get to learn how to use it. I'm still old school solo grinder (pots and all). I use my altadoras more often now (so that I just use 1 or 2 pots per round). I do not have the luxury of grinding via multidevice. It would be terrific in making spina tho. Just imagine having 3 drop slaves in a party. One would probably make 4b spina in a week if they play hard enough.
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Yazmat
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Post by Yazmat on Jan 15, 2016 15:02:58 GMT
I think for oath because your hp is low anyway, a move that is going to kill you will do so regardless of the minus magic resistance. However, I never farm solo. Even when i'm by myself I use my bish to cast ressu on me exactly for the reason you mention above. That odd critical that kills you. That is annoying lol I can understand if you do truly play solo why you would be more concerned with the minus defenses. Well yeah crits that can kill you will still kill you but the real problem is wheb what isn't supposed to kill you, does kill you. Heinrich does a terrific job in terms of survivability. I seriously think it is OP once you get to learn how to use it. I'm still old school solo grinder (pots and all). I use my altadoras more often now (so that I just use 1 or 2 pots per round). I do not have the luxury of grinding via multidevice. It would be terrific in making spina tho. Just imagine having 3 drop slaves in a party. One would probably make 4b spina in a week if they play hard enough. Thought I was the only poor guy with one device around here... (If I hard 3 more devices ... prod would been a piece of cake...) Anyways as a matter of fact, Heinrich is awesome... really awesome... and we will get another upgrade for it... but it is very far away x.x
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Jan 16, 2016 3:24:22 GMT
Well yeah crits that can kill you will still kill you but the real problem is wheb what isn't supposed to kill you, does kill you. Heinrich does a terrific job in terms of survivability. I seriously think it is OP once you get to learn how to use it. I'm still old school solo grinder (pots and all). I use my altadoras more often now (so that I just use 1 or 2 pots per round). I do not have the luxury of grinding via multidevice. It would be terrific in making spina tho. Just imagine having 3 drop slaves in a party. One would probably make 4b spina in a week if they play hard enough. Thought I was the only poor guy with one device around here... (If I hard 3 more devices ... prod would been a piece of cake...) Anyways as a matter of fact, Heinrich is awesome... really awesome... and we will get another upgrade for it... but it is very far away x.x I did try using tablet as extra device long time ago. Just too lazy to do it and why bother.
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Post by simprince on Feb 2, 2016 17:28:06 GMT
I follow all you guys said here but my atk and oath damage still seem low.
Izum+9 - dajarte Ira - Magonza Granvias Shield - Vida Myrica ns
Zazel, Valtia (can't afford muscle and Ouvel yet)
Since my STR and DEX is not high enough, switching to Symbios(dejarte) + AAns/Thimble ns lowers my damage than Izum
My atk is only 36xx with own buff and I am lvl 262 now. VIT/DEX/STR build not overcap 3 to max yet. I see video where ppl has about 5k atk. Do I need 2s weapon or myrica s to reach that?
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Yazmat
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Post by Yazmat on Feb 2, 2016 17:35:19 GMT
I follow all you guys said here but my atk and oath damage still seem low. Izum+9 - dajarte Ira - Magonza Granvias Shield - Vida Myrica ns Zazel, Valtia (can't afford muscle and Ouvel yet) Since my STR and DEX is not high enough, switching to Symbios(dejarte) + AAns/Thimble ns lowers my damage than Izum My atk is only 36xx with own buff and I am lvl 262 now. VIT/DEX/STR build not overcap 3 to max yet. I see video where ppl has about 5k atk. Do I need 2s weapon or myrica s to reach that? it is all from your stats ... overcapping vit/dex/str should give you 5k atk... but don't put average points on each one since you don't have enough points, overcap vit first (since it gives you 2 atk each), then do dex (1.5 atk each) then str (1 atk each) and don't forget about al xta: valtia, zazel, muscle & ouvel
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Feb 2, 2016 18:03:38 GMT
I follow all you guys said here but my atk and oath damage still seem low. Izum+9 - dajarte Ira - Magonza Granvias Shield - Vida Myrica ns Zazel, Valtia (can't afford muscle and Ouvel yet) Since my STR and DEX is not high enough, switching to Symbios(dejarte) + AAns/Thimble ns lowers my damage than Izum My atk is only 36xx with own buff and I am lvl 262 now. VIT/DEX/STR build not overcap 3 to max yet. I see video where ppl has about 5k atk. Do I need 2s weapon or myrica s to reach that? it is all from your stats ... overcapping vit/dex/str should give you 5k atk... but don't put average points on each one since you don't have enough points, overcap vit first (since it gives you 2 atk each), then do dex (1.5 atk each) then str (1 atk each) and don't forget about al xta: valtia, zazel, muscle & ouvel Aww. No love for Enina? She'd smoke those Al's. Well maybe except for ouvel.
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Feb 2, 2016 18:16:25 GMT
I follow all you guys said here but my atk and oath damage still seem low. Izum+9 - dajarte Ira - Magonza Granvias Shield - Vida Myrica ns Zazel, Valtia (can't afford muscle and Ouvel yet) Since my STR and DEX is not high enough, switching to Symbios(dejarte) + AAns/Thimble ns lowers my damage than Izum My atk is only 36xx with own buff and I am lvl 262 now. VIT/DEX/STR build not overcap 3 to max yet. I see video where ppl has about 5k atk. Do I need 2s weapon or myrica s to reach that? You need more stats to reach 5k. 1s weapon + ns spec might not make it to 5k at this point in the game (well maybe unless you Dex str + bow, but it still requires you to be near max cap/overcap stats) Use dorry. Heinrich if you plan to solo. And passion robe might give you more attack bonus. Knight oath gears, Al's and xtals aren't cheap so you might want to start saving up/farming alot.
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Post by simprince on Feb 2, 2016 19:32:50 GMT
I follow all you guys said here but my atk and oath damage still seem low. Izum+9 - dajarte Ira - Magonza Granvias Shield - Vida Myrica ns Zazel, Valtia (can't afford muscle and Ouvel yet) Since my STR and DEX is not high enough, switching to Symbios(dejarte) + AAns/Thimble ns lowers my damage than Izum My atk is only 36xx with own buff and I am lvl 262 now. VIT/DEX/STR build not overcap 3 to max yet. I see video where ppl has about 5k atk. Do I need 2s weapon or myrica s to reach that? You need more stats to reach 5k. 1s weapon + ns spec might not make it to 5k at this point in the game (well maybe unless you Dex str + bow, but it still requires you to be near max cap/overcap stats) Use dorry. Heinrich if you plan to solo. And passion robe might give you more attack bonus. Knight oath gears, Al's and xtals aren't cheap so you might want to start saving up/farming alot. Thank you so much for the suggestion. I notice Granvia shield already gives me about 25% of damage back to me by chance. Can it stack with Heinrich? Or do they conflict with each other like autoskill. Also, can Heinrich+Dorry outdo Ira+Magonza in terms of damage? I understand Heinrich is much greater for survive then Ira. The only reason I don't use Heinrich is because there is no seller of it. Even when I offer 30m+ for a clean one, still no seller at all. Last time a seller asked for 28m for a ns one. Errrrr I have about 300m to spend now.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2016 19:53:56 GMT
I follow all you guys said here but my atk and oath damage still seem low. Izum+9 - dajarte Ira - Magonza Granvias Shield - Vida Myrica ns Zazel, Valtia (can't afford muscle and Ouvel yet) Since my STR and DEX is not high enough, switching to Symbios(dejarte) + AAns/Thimble ns lowers my damage than Izum My atk is only 36xx with own buff and I am lvl 262 now. VIT/DEX/STR build not overcap 3 to max yet. I see video where ppl has about 5k atk. Do I need 2s weapon or myrica s to reach that? Well, if your path is the Vit Dex STR, the pattern will be Spec Sword to Bow, its normal to have low atk on Bow during that stage because Vit is more likely allocated with points than Dex(secondary) and Str(tertiary) while base atk is being raise by the mentioned stats using a spec sword. Thats as Same order as MWS/TS/AAS. Unless Dex and Str are overcapped and max allocated thats the point you'll have more base atk on bow compare with spec sword (If ever full geared with the bow type)
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