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Post by Ryukengan on Oct 2, 2015 12:05:18 GMT
The title and poll pretty much says it all, I have been thinking about this time and time again. While I have reported many hacking tools, checking if they have been added on the filter and proposing the idea of the filter in the first place people have found another way around it that is pretty much unavoidable. People have suggested me to create a list of people using SH that have been witnessed and screenshotted by me, whether you would like to believe the evidence or not is up to you but I want to hear the community's opinion first! The poll ends in 2 weeks so form your opinion and vote.
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Post by Jeancarlo on Oct 2, 2015 15:37:36 GMT
1. Wouldn't this violate the Forum rules of no personal attacks? There is nothing in there saying "unless you have proof"...
2. A list of SH users is 100% useless. This is the UNofficial forum, and unless you're expecting Asobimo to act on those list (assuming they even look at it)... What exactly do those people who suggested you make the list expect from it?
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Post by Ryukengan on Oct 2, 2015 15:55:09 GMT
1. Wouldn't this violate the Forum rules of no personal attacks? There is nothing in there saying "unless you have proof"... 2. A list of SH users is 100% useless. This is the UNofficial forum, and unless you're expecting Asobimo to act on those list (assuming they even look at it)... What exactly do those people who suggested you make the list expect from it? 1. First of all it is not a personal attack, I would simply make a list laying down the facts, some people approve of sh and want to party with them, others would judge them but that would be none of my business. Please prove to me how it is considered a personal attack because I would not add any comment to it, just IGN - Picture, IGN - Picture. 2. I highly doubt that, some part of their staff actually does watch the site and like I said, while they don't implement gameplay suggestions they do implement security suggestions often (like the filter, which was a simple part of code). I don't know, like I mentioned before some people would probably avoid those players while others would seek them out, trying to party with them or whatever. TLDR: It's not fingerpointing like all the previous threads with no proof, it's just presenting facts with no comment involved and the topic is locked, any complaints would have to be communicated privately.
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Post by Jeancarlo on Oct 2, 2015 16:33:26 GMT
1. Wouldn't this violate the Forum rules of no personal attacks? There is nothing in there saying "unless you have proof"... 2. A list of SH users is 100% useless. This is the UNofficial forum, and unless you're expecting Asobimo to act on those list (assuming they even look at it)... What exactly do those people who suggested you make the list expect from it? 1. First of all it is not a personal attack, I would simply make a list laying down the facts, some people approve of sh and want to party with them, others would judge them but that would be none of my business. Please prove to me how it is considered a personal attack because I would not add any comment to it, just IGN - Picture, IGN - Picture. 2. I highly doubt that, some part of their staff actually does watch the site and like I said, while they don't implement gameplay suggestions they do implement security suggestions often (like the filter, which was a simple part of code). I don't know, like I mentioned before some people would probably avoid those players while others would seek them out, trying to party with them or whatever. TLDR: It's not fingerpointing like all the previous threads with no proof, it's just presenting facts with no comment involved and the topic is locked, any complaints would have to be communicated privately. LOL That's... an interesting case, to say the least. I think you may want to step back and ask for people's opinion of whether the simple fact of posting said picture would be considered an attack or not. SH carries it's own stigma, regardless of our agreement or not with using them, and IMO posting names of people using them Is an attack to those persons. I am against SH and any other actions that is prohibited by Asobimo, including and up to RMTs. That doesn't make it ok to break our Own rules just to name people who breaks the game's rules. Anyway, I've said my piece. I assume you'll moderate the thread so I won't even bother checking in here.
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Post by Ryukengan on Oct 2, 2015 17:09:00 GMT
Jeancarlo You are being biased for whatever reason, you are replying to a locked thread instead of sending a private message and apparently did not bother to look up the definition of personal attack: "Making of an abusive remark on or relating to one's person instead of providing evidence when examining another person's claims or comments." As I said I wouldn't even make a comment and just provide evidence. I have mentioned before that if people had actually cared to provide valid evidence and not just point fingers with one or two screenshots that show no dmg numbers or overlapping animations, I mean party only off and providing a screenshot of bajillion numbers or a video of the accused person I wouldn't even move the topic as long as there's no name calling.
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Post by "K" on Oct 3, 2015 4:01:40 GMT
I think making this a private conversation between you both would be best. Private in the sense no one else can read it, not in a locked thread where everyone else can read it.
Edit: I am aware Ryu said this in the previous post.
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