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Post by Elsydeon on Aug 4, 2015 10:20:47 GMT
uhhm dex or any cooldown of skills will not lower final stroke cooldown...it will always be 40 seconds of exhaustion...as far as dual blow cooldown i think dex plays a big role unless you have enough skill cooldown points...as far as agi vs dex build...i cant answer that question but my observation of agi is that it helps me evade more normal hits and thats about 200+ agi...dex on the other hand helped me cast issen faster at 256 dex. *sigh* i didnt say itll lower the exhaustion duration, i said itll lower the cast time, and for the last time, its not 40 secs, its 30 secs.
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Post by Legacy on Aug 4, 2015 19:01:09 GMT
well I guess if you want to add Dex for fs cast but agi adds 1 atk + Eva that Eva plus reflect creates a opening to fs unless you are hit with a matk your screwed either way reflect won't help unless you are hit with matk and that castsspd allows you to use HP pot I guess that helps but I mean dual blow pretty much adds up to fs did i mention anything about disregarding agi? I just said if you have enough hp, then better add dex than vit, since dex adds an automatic +1 atk and reduces some skill cooldown, yeah true it allows you to use HP pots, but would it be enough? Since we dont have a high mdef, it's better to cast FS and spam dual blow afterwards with hcb to regain HP. And there are some circumstances that you casted FS and you died and got healed instantly and the SN effect is gone but the cast still continues to activate which will surely lead to degradation of ur wep, this happened to me alot of times and dex helped to prevent it. It maybe be a bug but that thing is dangerous. and did I mention anything about you disregarding agi? All I said was the positives that come out of agi and the positives that come out of Dex to help ifron pick which one he would prefer
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Post by Legacy on Aug 4, 2015 19:03:57 GMT
Image buy gpc from guildmate so I can buy Stelys so what build I go?I want hp ho so maybe str agi vit crt?str dex agi vit crt?pls tell me a build before I buy stefys well anyways ifron best to to use fs before the boss goes into high def in my opinion that's how I use like on mezza I hit before that high def and it just passes the high def so which ever build you go there is a good out come in both
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Post by Elsydeon on Aug 4, 2015 23:40:07 GMT
did i mention anything about disregarding agi? I just said if you have enough hp, then better add dex than vit, since dex adds an automatic +1 atk and reduces some skill cooldown, yeah true it allows you to use HP pots, but would it be enough? Since we dont have a high mdef, it's better to cast FS and spam dual blow afterwards with hcb to regain HP. And there are some circumstances that you casted FS and you died and got healed instantly and the SN effect is gone but the cast still continues to activate which will surely lead to degradation of ur wep, this happened to me alot of times and dex helped to prevent it. It maybe be a bug but that thing is dangerous. and did I mention anything about you disregarding agi? All I said was the positives that come out of agi and the positives that come out of Dex to help ifron pick which one he would prefer Reread yours, it made my post look like im not acknowledging it. I didnt say anything about agi, yes, coz it should be capped and max by samurai in default. What im trying to say here is having str, dex, agi and vit is inevitable, ive seen alot of samus with this kind of build, and if you want to add crt then so you can.
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Post by Legacy on Aug 5, 2015 2:04:34 GMT
and did I mention anything about you disregarding agi? All I said was the positives that come out of agi and the positives that come out of Dex to help ifron pick which one he would prefer Reread yours, it made my post look like im not acknowledging it. I didnt say anything about agi, yes, coz it should be capped and max by samurai in default. What im trying to say here is having str, dex, agi and vit is inevitable, ive seen alot of samus with this kind of build, and if you want to add crt then so you can. ...I'm not going to argue with you
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Post by Elsydeon on Aug 5, 2015 2:25:37 GMT
Reread yours, it made my post look like im not acknowledging it. I didnt say anything about agi, yes, coz it should be capped and max by samurai in default. What im trying to say here is having str, dex, agi and vit is inevitable, ive seen alot of samus with this kind of build, and if you want to add crt then so you can. ...I'm not going to argue with you Oh are we? I thought were just justifying our points lmao. Anyways, is it worth it to give up 50 vit and 50 agi to make up 100 crt? Currently on 225 vit and 401 agi atm
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Post by Legacy on Aug 5, 2015 4:14:19 GMT
...I'm not going to argue with you Oh are we? I thought were just justifying our points lmao. Anyways, is it worth it to give up 50 vit and 50 agi to make up 100 crt? Currently on 225 vit and 401 agi atm and what level is your samurai
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Post by ifron on Aug 5, 2015 4:20:14 GMT
Dang also wwill 50dex or 170dex be enough?my apostilia stats lvl all around 50-65
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Post by Elsydeon on Aug 5, 2015 4:40:38 GMT
Oh are we? I thought were just justifying our points lmao. Anyways, is it worth it to give up 50 vit and 50 agi to make up 100 crt? Currently on 225 vit and 401 agi atm and what level is your samurai 290
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Post by Legacy on Aug 5, 2015 4:43:12 GMT
and what level is your samurai 290 ic whats your eva looking like
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Post by Elsydeon on Aug 5, 2015 5:22:18 GMT
ic whats your eva looking like Its around 700+ since im still using exelis. I forgot the computation of the added eva per agi.
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Post by Legacy on Aug 5, 2015 7:03:30 GMT
ic whats your eva looking like Its around 700+ since im still using exelis. I forgot the computation of the added eva per agi. ah ic ic
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Post by mdb2011 on Sept 11, 2015 14:45:06 GMT
I have muramasa+9 pulis ira(the gear in krelyn) magonza HCB UP raiton and myrcia wristlet nsl lvl100 sam havent used any stats yet whats good build for dual blow and also whas the process if getting pet dual blow
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Post by AnTz on Sept 30, 2015 7:31:47 GMT
Remember that finishing stroke has a cast time, and adding dex lets you lessen the cast, dex also adds 1 atk per point so if you think you already have a decent amount of HP, then you can go for dex instead of capping vit. Hello, Im still newbie about samurai. Can I know how much dex we need to remove Fs cast time? And another question, is there any samurai other skill that require some amount of dex to be spammable? (ex: is like bishop' nemesis which require 256 dex to be spammable and enchanter' magic blade which require 245 dex + -1sec sd)
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