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Post by Kozuki on May 24, 2015 0:16:32 GMT
well, i have a question, BK has both Claw mastery & Sword mastery? which one is better? No idea about claw and sword mastery only seen both can be used using diel style. As for which is better claw is being tested ATM and we already know about sword capabilities. In terms of Aoe DMG sword wins, in terms or auto atk/DPs we'll seen soon.
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Post by silence on May 24, 2015 4:36:30 GMT
well, i have a question, BK has both Claw mastery & Sword mastery? which one is better? No idea about claw and sword mastery only seen both can be used using diel style. As for which is better claw is being tested ATM and we already know about sword capabilities. In terms of Aoe DMG sword wins, in terms or auto atk/DPs we'll seen soon. I see, thanks for info.
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Post by caporal on May 25, 2015 12:42:19 GMT
Is it possible to make a Beast Knight with Throwing Weapon ? Will it be good ? If yes, with which build/ equips ? ty
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Post by Kozuki on May 25, 2015 14:43:07 GMT
Is it possible to make a Beast Knight with Throwing Weapon ? Will it be good ? If yes, with which build/ equips ? ty If you could find a way to put Str in a int build with at least 250 Dex and good vit then it should work.
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Post by bloodrain567 on May 25, 2015 21:26:14 GMT
Is it possible to make a Beast Knight with Throwing Weapon ? Will it be good ? If yes, with which build/ equips ? ty with the skills and buid for its job I can't really see it working for bk
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Post by Thryzter on May 25, 2015 22:27:30 GMT
anyone tried claw beast knight? just wondering whats the different effect of beast slash from sword to claw. coz im planning to make agi crt vit str beast knight. with dragons claw i get hp recovery so survivability would be high but lower dps compared to sword.
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Post by Crysta| on May 26, 2015 1:22:34 GMT
anyone tried claw beast knight? just wondering whats the different effect of beast slash from sword to claw. coz im planning to make agi crt vit str beast knight. with dragons claw i get hp recovery so survivability would be high but lower dps compared to sword. I'm currently testing this build. I think it deserves a separate thread as this thread focuses on Str/Vit/Dex build.
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on May 26, 2015 3:03:53 GMT
that hp recovery on passive ability byte is interesting but i assume its working on normal attack/berserk only since it says "by double attack",correct me if im wrong. fyi,double attack Trigger rate is actually can be raised by CRT stat. i bet many will refuse to use berserk for that hp recovery on byte passive ability because berserk costs all MP. so that byte probably gonna be a dud/impractical skill, unless that diel style able to make aspd really fast. The real question might probably be how much HP is recovered and at what rate. At 396 CRT you would have around 54% double attack proc which is quite significant. Add Auto5 and 4 and purple lines for more proc and aspd. Probably use Lamia/Huge Cherry Blossom/Replica Gauntlet (for more hp/mp restore) and mix with auto+ gears would be good for sustaining berserk. I use replica on my pally on berserk and have restored enough mp to do it again (after 10secs duration) due to the auto+ gears (even with the -10auto from Leben). It might not be best DPS but it will probably stand very well in auto sustainability. Anyway, I haven't tried BK so I wouldn't know, just throwing a concept from what I know.
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Post by Kirin。 on May 26, 2015 4:06:49 GMT
I wonder if str>Dex>Vit>Agi would work? Like of a samurai build but we wont get +atk from agi, tho lvling would be great and also you abit more survivability tho late game is different i suppose
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Post by quitted on May 26, 2015 5:27:27 GMT
that hp recovery on passive ability byte is interesting but i assume its working on normal attack/berserk only since it says "by double attack",correct me if im wrong. fyi,double attack Trigger rate is actually can be raised by CRT stat. i bet many will refuse to use berserk for that hp recovery on byte passive ability because berserk costs all MP. so that byte probably gonna be a dud/impractical skill, unless that diel style able to make aspd really fast. The real question might probably be how much HP is recovered and at what rate. At 396 CRT you would have around 54% double attack proc which is quite significant. Add Auto5 and 4 and purple lines for more proc and aspd. Probably use Lamia/Huge Cherry Blossom/Replica Gauntlet (for more hp/mp restore) and mix with auto+ gears would be good for sustaining berserk. I use replica on my pally on berserk and have restored enough mp to do it again (after 10secs duration) due to the auto+ gears (even with the -10auto from Leben). It might not be best DPS but it will probably stand very well in auto sustainability. Anyway, I haven't tried BK so I wouldn't know, just throwing a concept from what I know. byte trigger rate most probably do affected by autoskill stat but im not sure about double attack trigger rate. there are some japanese blog that i found said double attack is affected by autoskill stat. one of them is here. he said at 399 CRT,without autoskill+%5, double attack trigger is 592 per 1000 and with autoskill+%5, double attack trigger is 664 per 1000. but his test could be flawed, maybe just lucky with autskill gears or maybe could be tested on different day with different stat bonus on fortune read.. idk, not much people test correlation between autoskill stat and double attack trigger rate. there is probability byte trigger rate is separated from double attack trigger rate. could be affected by STR.
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Post by Vetkin on May 26, 2015 5:35:57 GMT
The real question might probably be how much HP is recovered and at what rate. At 396 CRT you would have around 54% double attack proc which is quite significant. Add Auto5 and 4 and purple lines for more proc and aspd. Probably use Lamia/Huge Cherry Blossom/Replica Gauntlet (for more hp/mp restore) and mix with auto+ gears would be good for sustaining berserk. I use replica on my pally on berserk and have restored enough mp to do it again (after 10secs duration) due to the auto+ gears (even with the -10auto from Leben). It might not be best DPS but it will probably stand very well in auto sustainability. Anyway, I haven't tried BK so I wouldn't know, just throwing a concept from what I know. byte trigger rate most probably do affected by autoskill stat but im not sure about double attack trigger rate. there are some japanese blog that i found said double attack is affected by autoskill stat. one of them is here. he said without autoskill+%5, double attack trigger is 592 per 1000 and with autoskill+%5, double attack trigger is 664 per 1000. but his test could be flawed, maybe just lucky with autskill gears or maybe could be tested on different day with different stat bonus on fortune read.. idk, not much people test correlation between autoskill stat and double attack trigger rate. there is probability byte trigger rate is separated from double attack trigger rate. could be affected by STR. Well... since bite is trigger when double attack was made thus personally i think the rate of the bite is based on crit... However what i wonder is, at 260 dex, bite does often happen like once in 15 - 20 hit... How ever even at 270 vit, when bite happen, it only heal 100+ hp... or i guess that was my 5% - 10% of my d.attack damaged... Note: I am a special sword user, thus i cant explain in term of claw user.
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on May 26, 2015 5:50:12 GMT
The real question might probably be how much HP is recovered and at what rate. At 396 CRT you would have around 54% double attack proc which is quite significant. Add Auto5 and 4 and purple lines for more proc and aspd. Probably use Lamia/Huge Cherry Blossom/Replica Gauntlet (for more hp/mp restore) and mix with auto+ gears would be good for sustaining berserk. I use replica on my pally on berserk and have restored enough mp to do it again (after 10secs duration) due to the auto+ gears (even with the -10auto from Leben). It might not be best DPS but it will probably stand very well in auto sustainability. Anyway, I haven't tried BK so I wouldn't know, just throwing a concept from what I know. byte trigger rate most probably do affected by autoskill stat but im not sure about double attack trigger rate. there are some japanese blog that i found said double attack is affected by autoskill stat. one of them is here. he said without autoskill+%5, double attack trigger is 592 per 1000 and with autoskill+%5, double attack trigger is 664 per 1000. but his test could be flawed, maybe just lucky with autskill gears or maybe could be tested on different day with different stat bonus on fortune read.. idk, not much people test correlation between autoskill stat and double attack trigger rate. there is probability byte trigger rate is separated from double attack trigger rate. could be affected by STR. I have tested autoskill+ and concluded that it affects double attack. I have 1CRT which means I only have 10% double attack rate. When I use Lebenglanz (-10% Autoskill) my double attack disappears. It reappears after I wear more autoskill+.
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Post by quitted on May 26, 2015 6:04:24 GMT
byte trigger rate most probably do affected by autoskill stat but im not sure about double attack trigger rate. there are some japanese blog that i found said double attack is affected by autoskill stat. one of them is here. he said without autoskill+%5, double attack trigger is 592 per 1000 and with autoskill+%5, double attack trigger is 664 per 1000. but his test could be flawed, maybe just lucky with autskill gears or maybe could be tested on different day with different stat bonus on fortune read.. idk, not much people test correlation between autoskill stat and double attack trigger rate. there is probability byte trigger rate is separated from double attack trigger rate. could be affected by STR. I have tested autoskill+ and concluded that it affects double attack. I have 1CRT which means I only have 10% double attack rate. When I use Lebenglanz (-10% Autoskill) my double attack disappears. It reappears after I wear more autoskill+. Thanks for that info. i guess elemental xtal and imseti with auto star ability is way better than cerberus xtal, because we need to have critical rate on star ability to cancel out its negative critical rate.
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on May 26, 2015 6:16:17 GMT
I have tested autoskill+ and concluded that it affects double attack. I have 1CRT which means I only have 10% double attack rate. When I use Lebenglanz (-10% Autoskill) my double attack disappears. It reappears after I wear more autoskill+. Thanks for that info. i guess elemental xtal and imseti with auto star ability is way better than cerberus xtal, because we need to have critical rate on star ability to cancel out its negative critical rate. I got lost now. i thought imseti xtal was a matk xtal.
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Post by quitted on May 26, 2015 6:39:30 GMT
Thanks for that info. i guess elemental xtal and imseti with auto star ability is way better than cerberus xtal, because we need to have critical rate on star ability to cancel out its negative critical rate. I got lost now. i thought imseti xtal was a matk xtal. full stat : ATK+5 ,critical damage + 10% MATK-20%, iF CRT is 200 or more, add MATK + 30% more its quite popular to gladiators actually.
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